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  • azanimefan#2488 azanimefan Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    I was looking forward to a Legendary BOP with 5 forward weapon slots and pilot maneuvers like the legendary defiant; I would have gladly paid 200 for something like that. Well i guess that hope is gone.

    hard pass from me. Already own the non-legendary T6 versions of every ship in the pack, and the lackluster "legendary" upgrades for them are no where near enough to justify the price. I have the "use every ship" unlock already and I don't need a holo-warf or 2 t6 coupons to buy some ship I didn't judge worthy of spending $$ on in the first place.

    what a letdown.
  • orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    I can honestly say I am not impressed with this bundle. The Legendary Ambassador strikes the same chord as the Ross class in my opinion, (not really different, just a minor linear upgrade) most disappointing. Honestly I'd rather just drop a fleet module and grab a T6 Fleet Support cruiser, it'd be MUCH cheaper and wouldn't be a loss in performance.

    As a rule I don't gamble so the Keys and Promo boxes (which are likely bind-on-pickup) are of zero value to me.

    I also have a 65 KDF (more than one, actually) which means I cannot purchase the 'cross faction starship unlock', including it in this bundle is shady. You're basically forcing me to purchase an item which is of no use to me if I wanted this bundle. :(

    The 6 ship slots and experimental tokens actually make some sense in this bundle, though they are available separately, so including them here seems like just an attempt to pump up the price tag.

    Including Two ship coupons in this bundle strikes me as though Cryptic/PWE is attempting to make this appear as a 6 ship bundle without actually making 6 ships. Disappointing, though not entirely unexpected given recent events.

    I have no real opinion about the BOFF, combat companion, and outfit, but I can see how those items would be points of contention for some people.

    Between lackluster stats/visuals and an overabundance of unnecessary/unwanted fluff I am officially not interested in this bundle at all now.
  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 2,168 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    reyan01 wrote: »

    Am I reading that right? *TWO* commander-level stations? One temporal, one Command? Because that's...pretty sure that's not something you see often.
  • n0vastaronen0vastarone Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    its so ugly. D:

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  • finsches123finsches123 Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    Am I reading that right? *TWO* commander-level stations? One temporal, one Command? Because that's...pretty sure that's not something you see often.

    It says Lieutenant in the line above Commander Universal. ;)
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 55,806 Community Moderator
    I admit I'm not really a fan of the Horatio design. If I get it, I'd probably stick to the Ambassador parts. Who knows... maybe there's some possibilities for kitbashing.
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  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 2,508 Arc User
    I don't like the deflector on the Horatio, so would switch out its' engineering section for another.
    It's such a shame the Guardian(s) hasn't been broken up and included in the Ambassador-frame yet.
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  • captan2er0captan2er0 Member Posts: 828 Arc User
    As much as the Ambassador class is a solid favorite of mine, the loadout and stats on this one are a very unfortunate hard pass for me. As with the rest of this pack, nothing about it screams "Legendary" to me. This only cements my view that this is a passable bundle. The Excelsior, least for how I play the game, is on par with the Legendary Sovereign from last year. The B'rel, Vor'Cha, and Ambassador are also severely lacking, in my honest opinion, compared to the T6 fleet versions of those ships that already exist in the game.
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  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,575 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    garaffe wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »

    This is very underwhelming. It is basically just the Narendra with slightly better stats. If the legendary Ambassador is what I was interested in, I would just buy the Narendra for a fraction of the cost. Afterall, the Narendra is a perfectly capable ship.

    To be honest, the Fleet Ambassador with an X-upgrade is just an outright better ship in my opinion.

    It is! I have been flying one of those since the X tokens came out.

    I do love the updated model and especially the Horatio parts. I hope those are also available for the Galaxy and Galaxy X.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    So this "legendary" Ambassador when compared to Fleet Yamaguchi:


    lose a combined hull/shield of .10 (Yamaguchi) for a better .5 turn-rate ("legendary" Ambassador)

    lose +5 pwr to engines straight-out with this "legendary" Ambassador

    trade Ensign Tac seat (Yamaguchi) for a Ensign Uni seat ("legendary" Ambassador)

    gain a good looking Horatio visual ("legendary" Ambassador)

    gain the starship trait Lost In Time ("legendary" Ambassador)

    console placement is the same for both

    inertia & impulse ratings are the same

    both have (4) Cruiser Commands & both have Molecular Reconstruction

    "legendary" Ambassador has the Temporal Trajectory Shifter console


    To me in this bundle there's a couple of prime examples of these ships being "legendary" by title only but then again Cryptic knows that's enough to sell to a certain amount of players.

    With at least a couple of these ships I think you'd match statically or exceed them if a player bought fleet versions then bought the other optional ships, if not already owned, for the consoles & sometimes there's better console options pending playstyles.

    Remember the primary things these ships have exclusively are the distinct visuals & starship traits then slight, if any, modifications to BOFF seating, console placement, weapon layout & statistical trade-offs.

    From B'rel to Ambassador began with a whimper & ended with a whimper.
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,797 Arc User
    What a complete dumpster fire of a bundle.
  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 2,168 Arc User
    Am I reading that right? *TWO* commander-level stations? One temporal, one Command? Because that's...pretty sure that's not something you see often.

    It says Lieutenant in the line above Commander Universal. ;)

    Ahh! Bad wordwrap. Because, well, *that* would have actually been something special....
  • n0vastaronen0vastarone Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    its so ugly. D:

    To be honest, as said previously, whilst I never intended to purchase this bundle in the first place I'd said that, if they were selling the ships individually, the only ship that really interested me in this bundle was the Ambassador class. However at this point I'd have to take that back since this Legendary version isn't a significant improvement on my Fleet T6-X Ambassador.

    And entirely subjective, but the Hor(rible)atio looks like someone said "let's take the worst bits of Odyssey and Chimera and slap them on an Ambassador!" I mean, it looks like the deflector tried to eat the lower pod of an Oberth class!

    my friend said this and I agree" The ambassador was always a classy looking ship, elegant in its mix of old and new, this new skin takes away everything that made it stand out, and now it looks like another generic Cryptic STO 25th century ship"

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  • tempest024tempest024 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    This is a disappointing bundle. Wouldn't buy it at 80% off.
  • spielman1spielman1 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    It's time to talk...Legendary. Coming on February 18th, the 2021 Anniversary Legendary Bundle includes four of the most iconic ships in Star Trek history, two from the Federation, two from the Klingon Empire, 2 T6 ships, a Worf Bridge Officer, and more.

    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11483463

    Well as usual another 250 dollar package that no asked to be a package and as usual the ships only thing worth it, wont be sold separately either as the company is so desperate for money, they try and get money at any cost. I have yet seen, on the forums, or threw feed back that is done where this has ended well with out the community in a uproar over this. No im not trying break rules or start a argument but you also have to admit i have a point also.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,033 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    The excelsior should've been included in the first Legendary bundle in the first place instead of that Constitution copy from DIS or JJTrek.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,812 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    The excelsior should've been included in the first Legendary bundle in the first place instead of that Constitution copy from DIS or JJTrek.

    Removing a Lockbox/Promo ship in favor of a C-Store ship would have really hurt the value of the 2020 Bundle.
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,808 Arc User
    the new ambassador has successful talked into buying... basically anything but this pack. not rushing it ether I can just let my lifer stipend do it's thing and wait for a good sale.

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • daboholicdaboholic Member Posts: 261 Arc User
    Add me to the list of underwhelmed players who won't be buying this bundle.

    Out of the main selling point, the " legendary" ships, there's really only the Excelsior that I can honestly say I would want (Had it been a standalone purchase, like the legendary mirror dreadnought, I would have bought it in a heartbeat).

    The Ambassador seems to offer little over the fleet Yamaguchi, I have no interest in the Vorcha and the B'rel offers little that the Temer cannot and I didn't have to spend any money on the Temer.

    Had they offered the ships without all the bloat for a more "reasonable" price I might have been tempted, just for the MW Excelsior

    As it currently stands I have zero interest in the bloat items, so I simply cannot even begin to justify paying the price they're asking.
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »

    Am I reading that right? *TWO* commander-level stations? One temporal, one Command? Because that's...pretty sure that's not something you see often.

    The sad thing is that would have made the L. Ambassador very interesting over the actual version. Its easy to argue that the L. is worse than the Fleet version, especially factoring in the price. If they had made it a 2 commander ship, and given it both specialization mechanics, then you'd have a real justification for it having very little over the original version, and a real draw to get the ship.

    I kinda like the Horatio skin, but this still isn't a ship I'd fly.

    The trait is exceptionally poor, though. Temporal specialization almost certainly does it better and more often. Of course you might not want to run temporal spec, but its such a waste of a ship trait slot even then, especially with the absurd 3 minute cooldown.


    Overall, the B'rel is a slight upgrade, (unless you liked 3 science consoles) but it remains to be seen what the set console changes do, and intel seating is a clear bonus, with a trait that seems good. The Vor'cha is worth considering largely due to 5/3 and the turn rate to use it, but you might still prefer the Vor'ral due to the specialization. The Excelsior is a clear winner, but that is in no small part due to the age of the Resolute in terms of its design philosophy. The Ambassador is totally uninteresting.
  • cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    Ways I could see them spicing up this bundle to make it worth it.

    B'rel make it actually use its commander Uni instead of the normal tactical most raiders have, swap 4 engineer with 4 science. Make it a science destroyer raider, this would be unique it could keep its 4/2 layout no change needed there but it would be super versatile but I doubt it would outshine the section 31 ship or cross field. But even without the science destroyer ability to switch having 4 science consoles would make niche science raider build be more viable. The 4 engineer slots don't do the flexibility of a uni commander justice.

    Vorcha its pretty good as is, but maybe make it a flight deck cruiser.

    Ambassador if you could make this the cruiser/science ship equivalent of a science destroyer. In lieu of that just change the specialization seating. Its too similar to the ship that already exists, make commander intel, lt.com temporal or command or just make it flight deck cruiser.

    I think excelsior is fine, though giving pilot commander would make it certainly unique even though pilot commander abilities need a rework or buffs, though I could see it becoming a battlecruiser.

    If most of the fluff was bind on character but claimable multiple times across the account like the lobi, ships slots and the Ultimate Tech Upgrades. That would make much of the fluff worth it.
  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    I will admit, I figured the Ambassador would be comm intel, ltc temporal, so I was surprised.
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  • paddy#3322 paddy Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    If everything in this bundle was an account unlock, and the price was around $120 USD, I'd probably buy it. As it now stands, no thanks.
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  • payback99payback99 Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited February 2021
    This bundle really seems like it's supposed to be a new player only bundle.

    The fly all ships unlock is completely worthless for anyone who isn't new as even if you only play Fed you know it doesn't take long to hit 65 and would have already started a Klingon recruit just for the reward unlocks on their other characters. You would have to be a serious roleplayer to refuse to make a recruit and if you were that into roleplay you wouldn't want your characters flying Klingon ships anyways.

    All the ships are basically side grades.

    Worf will only be useful if he has a bunch of space skills. And like all the other real holo's likely wont be customizable and so would ruin any ground gear fashion set ups.

    The Targ can already be purchased in the Zen Store. It should have came with the Nanopulse Targ to make people consider buying it over just getting it by itself for a fraction of the bundles price. Or make a third Targ that summons with them so people that really like the double summon considers buying the Legendary bundle for it.

    Everything else is Char unlocks. 6 ships slots are nice but when you have multiple toons 6 new ships means either deleting old ships or spending even more money on ship slots/dry dock slots. Zen store ships should automatically come with a dry dock or ship slot imo.





  • trillbuffettrillbuffet Member Posts: 861 Arc User
    I'll just say it and being this can't be a coincidence that the sale of this outrageous priced pack runs up until the date that Paramount Plus launches. I assume there is going to be some major announcement that will coincide with how they are establishing their brand being one company once again. So this game will probably still exist but there won't be anymore development for it. So it makes sense why they aren't going down on the price of the pack because its their last card in the deck to play. So they have to make as much as they can off of it because there is nothing after the fact.

    Can I have some of what you're smoking as I could use a good break from reality - which is what your post above is. This game isn't going into maintenance mode anytime soon (unlike their other MMO already IN maintenance mode: Champions Online.

    If anything, Cryptic will probably have some promotional give away to 'celebrate' the launch of Paramount+; but with all the new Star Trek series on the horizon - ST: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds, Section 31 and ST: D <-- which is already in production of its 4th season, and ST: P starting its production of Season 2 in a week, Paramount isn't going to shutdown STO - nor is Cryptic putting this game in maintenance mode. :D

    ROFL its funny because if you go to any source about any of these shows they are either not even approved yet like Section 31 and not even the prodigy cartoon is even in production. On top of that netflix is no longer footing the bill for the production of discovery so not only is that show NOT in production but there is no one right now willing to pay for production much less expecting any kind of production in the near future. Also New Worlds, Prodigy, Picard, etc none of them are even in the production phase of development. So being you don't like hearing the truth you would rather attempt to insult me by making false accusations that I am a drug user. That's real cute princess.
  • n0vastaronen0vastarone Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    its so ugly. D:

    To be honest, as said previously, whilst I never intended to purchase this bundle in the first place I'd said that, if they were selling the ships individually, the only ship that really interested me in this bundle was the Ambassador class. However at this point I'd have to take that back since this Legendary version isn't a significant improvement on my Fleet T6-X Ambassador.

    And entirely subjective, but the Hor(rible)atio looks like someone said "let's take the worst bits of Odyssey and Chimera and slap them on an Ambassador!" I mean, it looks like the deflector tried to eat the lower pod of an Oberth class!

    I fly the same thing and it was so barely an improvement, the ambassador legendary just...killed any interest I had in the pack.

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  • gromrosch#6345 gromrosch Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    This bundle is far too expensive. I bought a lot of stuff in the past to support the game but this goes too far. 4 ships (all not really great) and a bunch of stuff most people willing to spend that kind of cash on the game don't need.... really? Also wish they would stop advertising T6 Ship tokens as a premium item. You still can't buy any new realeses with those token. When I like a ship I don't want to wait 6 months to buy it. This really should ALWAYS be noted when advertising this tokens, obfuscating this is rather questionable behaviour.

    At least make a cheaper pack with just the ships please.... keep the worthless stuff you prize as 10k Zen+ Value here ........
  • captan2er0captan2er0 Member Posts: 828 Arc User
    Using the sale price of around 18700 zen, you get 6 ships (4 ships plus 2 T6 tokens), a cross-faction ship unlock, 500 lobi, and various other items. Since 6 T6 ships in the C-store alone cost 18000, I see this as a good deal.

    At a base price, this might be a good deal. As the sale price for the 6 and fluff that most don't want, as many have echoed, I don't feel like this is. The T6 coupons are usually on sale when they run those, and same with T6 ships. If this were, say, run at 19,000 ZEN with the 25%-30% off, then I think there would be fewer complaints and probably more sales across the board.
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