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Endeavor system expanded from 450 to 600 skill points
foxman00
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"All Endeavor Perks have had their max ranks increased from 15 to 20, allowing additional Perk Points to be spent in all of the existing Perks.
This, in turn, raises the maximum Endeavor Rank from 450 to 600"
Well, wasnt expecting it this fast captains
Source: https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11484033-pc-patch-notes-for-2/10/21
This, in turn, raises the maximum Endeavor Rank from 450 to 600"
Well, wasnt expecting it this fast captains
Source: https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11484033-pc-patch-notes-for-2/10/21
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Truer words were never spoken.
At least our recruits will have small purpose now which feels worth while. They should iindeed cut off a few weeks of the grind now so lets take that.
In any case, thanks for info @foxman00
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Good point, that is indeed a big plus.
Agreed, though I would have preferred having *new* perks instead of just more power added to the same ones we already have.
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
Yea me too, not to mention new tasks.
I guess they wanted/needed to make it a minimum effort thingy for them. I mean every of the Xth reputation system or Xth spec tree/ship developement we got in the past suddently feel like major game releases by comparison now.
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You're not wrong. And once again, whose "fault" is that?
I mean, math is math... they knew when the Klingon Recruit would go live, they also knew the earliest possible day on which people could get to 450 points. They also knew, because they can see that (this time, the database seems to work perfectly, eh?), that there was indeed people that would reach the 450 points on the earliest possible day... and still, they didn't prepare accordingly.
Like, it would've been so simple to either switch the endeavour system so as to allow the continuing accruing of points or, barring that, simply let the xp accumulate and don't award anything (I'm against introducing more dilithium in the system, so no repetition of what happens when you max out all the specs, please!).
Instead, they did nothing and now, as per usual, they had to run to fix their own mistake.
It's like they can't see further than their own noses, I swear. Do they even know what "planning ahead" means?
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
This is my biggest issue as well. I am curious why they made a recruit objective to earn endeavor XP when they had to know that many people were at or very near the maximum level already.
We hear a lot about how they have metrics for these things and how they can tell how many people have reached certain levels of progress but then a release like this seems to blind side them. It seems like they were surprised by the fact that some people wouldn't be able to earn that many more points and just added 5 levels to everything as a 'quick fix.'
Well, the first thing I thought when I saw the Endeavour objective was: "ok, now they're timegating the recruit events, too" because even with the 10% perk, there's still no way for you to complete it quickly and at your own time. You *have* to wait for reset each day.
But I hadn't realized that the recruit would coincide with people actually getting to 450 points.
Now, as you said, it seems like they counted on people not being *that* close to being done with the endeavour? Like, I remember a tweet by Borticus (I think it was him, at least) asking people what their endeavour level was because he had seen claims going around that didn't coincide with what data they could see... so it's one of two things: they lied and didn't make the math, so they wanted to check what "deadline" they had to work with, or they knew and simply didn't care to adjust accordingly.
Both cases are... disheartening, to say the least.
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
Will players who don't play every day ever be able to catch up?
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
Sadly, those are the same two options I came to as well.
I'll take the 'band aid' fix.. more power for us.. but like you, I would have preferred some new tracks to chase as opposed to just adding 5 more points to the tracks I already completed.
On the bright side, at least they didn't leave people high and dry and just do nothing.
Oh, for sure! I mean, I'm glad the people that have maxed out the Endeavours can still progress with their recruit. It would've been bad otherwise!
And yeah, nothing we can do but take the lazy way out, I guess. Maybe we'll still get some entirely new perks to work towards in the future.
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
The Encrypted Klingon Receiver says: 'Complete Endeavor missions. Requires level 15'.
I've just reached level 15 and I can't see the endeavours on my recruit.
I guess I'll just wait until the reset tomorrow.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
I can see the AFK Penalty complaint posts being warmed up as we speak.
I don't know why it says that either, but Endeavors don't unlock until Level 60.
Hm, I was afraid of that
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
I'm afraid not Risian, at least not for the better part of another year.
As Chiara & Sea elaborate its a "just in time" thingy here with most likely min effort involved from the Devs. They want us to simply continue the grind. And yea, those who can't do so on a daily basis are unable to catch on for as long as there is no end to the system in sight.
The only thing good I make of it is that it has an account wide philosophy and most tasks can be min/maxed to be fulfilled realy fast. I did some arrangement ony my new recruit so that she can do all tasks from now on. 10% faster should shave 3 weeks or so off the 150 points that get added after patch.
If you feel like catching on thats the only way that works as 10% of a now 3 year lasting progression curve would be substantially more.
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Uh... what? O.o
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
The Endeavour system does not become visible on a character to around level 60 - the 15 I think you refer to was the maximum points you could have in any one endeavour prior to this change (for example Space: Energy Weapon Damage), which has now been increased to 20 maximum, with 30 endeavours x 5 giving you the total increase in points from 450 to 600.
They should invest the time in fixing things around rather to create incessant grind.
Yes, nobody is forcing this upon anyone but still it would be nice if they could had given us a brief break. Then fix the system and extend the grind some more.
</glances at my 20-some points>
Hrm.
Honestly, I never do all of them even when I do log in. Most of them are things I won't do (anything TFO related, for instance). Only 'easy' ones are the "Do X damage of Y type", because I have an alt built for each energy type. And I don't even always do those, depending on what I'd rather spend my time on (like whatever Event is running, and depending on how long I have to play. Like, over the weekend, I focused on using up VIP mining claims on piles of characters. Rest of the time has been my Recruit & anniversary. And my recruit isn't high enough to do Endeavors, and only has one energy type.)