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  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,702 Arc User
    It isn't like this decision followed by the executable action was done in haste.

    Cryptic had to heavily consider this, & the potential impact on STO, then devise a method to implement it into STO without mucking things up to the 10th degree.

    I'm guessing this whole process from conception to this week's execution took months.

    Cryptic knows their game & the ships involved, I'd even bet there's a list of ships included & not included for various reasons.

    Cryptic chose not to convey itemized information prior to the release.

    The title of the post says it all: "Command Any Ship" https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11483253-command-any-ship

    With most, if not all, things Cryptic communication could've been better, but it wasn't terrible & if there are glitches with this it will probably be addressed being this was such a monumental maneuver.

    Meanwhile, I'm focusing on the Klingon recruitment event & while enjoyable I'm finding it glitched galore & rewards seem puny so far especially compared to previous recruitment events. Cryptic just doesn't seem to enjoy Klingon favored players imo.
  • mattingly1mattingly1 Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    Update: I decided to fall on my sword tonight and open this - I felt like the community deserved an answer.

    We can get the Atlas. All's well. I was wrong.

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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,486 Arc User
    Good to know.. thanks for taking the bullet for the rest of us.. glad it didn't hit you! :smiley:
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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 6,510 Arc User
    Any word on the Temporal Destroyer? (am just curious as I sprung for that and the Science Vessel via Mudd's.)
  • mattingly1mattingly1 Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    Any word on the Temporal Destroyer? (am just curious as I sprung for that and the Science Vessel via Mudd's.)

    I personally want to know about the D7/Connie.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 36,392 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    Any word on the Temporal Destroyer? (am just curious as I sprung for that and the Science Vessel via Mudd's.)

    yes, the temporal destroyers give a choice box too - at least the one from mudd's does, as that's the only one i own; i can't speak to regular temporal destroyers​​
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  • jivedutchjivedutch Member Posts: 349 Arc User
    jivedutch wrote: »
    This one is a good example of on working, and one not ..

    The "[Special Requisition Pack - Temporal Destroyer [T6]]" properly presents the option to select between the Fed/Kdf/Rom version
    The "[Special Requisition Pack - Temporal Science Vessel [T6]]" only presents the current faction ship.

    After reading the thread posts apparently it is not clear .... after grabbing the boxxes from Mudd and opening them i get ..
    The Destroyer pops up with a dialogue to select one of three options ..
    The Science pops up with a dialogue to select a single option available....
    On my Cardassian i only had the option to choose the Qul'poH temporal Science vessel.

    The wording on the box pop-up and in the description is the same , therefore the difference is a bug/oversight at the moment since they behave differently.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,702 Arc User
    mattingly1 wrote: »
    Update: I decided to fall on my sword tonight and open this - I felt like the community deserved an answer.

    We can get the Atlas. All's well. I was wrong.

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    I'm just glad it worked out for you & in your favor! Might sound funny since STOis only a game but way to be courageous then also have the integrity & follow-through to report it to allow others to know too.
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,593 Arc User
    mattingly1 wrote: »
    Update: I decided to fall on my sword tonight and open this - I felt like the community deserved an answer.

    We can get the Atlas. All's well. I was wrong.

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    Kudos for being brave on this one; glad it worked out for you.
  • sirsitsalotsirsitsalot Member Posts: 2,351 Arc User
    mattingly1 wrote: »
    Update: I decided to fall on my sword tonight and open this - I felt like the community deserved an answer.

    We can get the Atlas. All's well. I was wrong.

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    Thank you for the info.

    There are clearly some ships that are not behaving according to the new mechanic. we should consider it a bug and take action accordingly.
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  • narconarnnarconarn Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    Came on here to check this out. My lvl 65 KDF aligned Rom can't unlock my andorian ships. Kinda miffed.
  • ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael Member, Administrator Posts: 2,365 Community Manager
    Can I get a list from folks of what ships you can't use currently? Those are all bugs. Anything that's locked is, IIRC, just something we missed.

    Also I have never lied to you. :)
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,470 Arc User
    my guess is unlock is for regular zen store ships only, lock box ships still tied to faction.
  • sirsitsalotsirsitsalot Member Posts: 2,351 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    my guess is unlock is for regular zen store ships only, lock box ships still tied to faction.

    You guess wrong:
    Can I get a list from folks of what ships you can't use currently? Those are all bugs. Anything that's locked is, IIRC, just something we missed.

    When it comes to MMOs, I wear prescription glasses. Whether or not they are rose-tinted is beside the point.
  • narconarnnarconarn Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    Also noticed I can't unlock any kdf ships with my fully fed character at 65 (only have 2 freebies). Is this a tutorial issue? Seems all my c-store ships are affected.
  • sirsitsalotsirsitsalot Member Posts: 2,351 Arc User
    edited January 29
    narconarn wrote: »
    Also noticed I can't unlock any kdf ships with my fully fed character at 65 (only have 2 freebies). Is this a tutorial issue? Seems all my c-store ships are affected.

    It's a KDF character you have to level to 65. After that, all ships become available to all your characters
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  • narconarnnarconarn Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    Oh, so I need to have at least 1 actual klingon at 65 to unlock for everyone else? If so thanks for the info.
  • sirsitsalotsirsitsalot Member Posts: 2,351 Arc User
    narconarn wrote: »
    Oh, so I need to have at least 1 actual klingon at 65 to unlock for everyone else? If so thanks for the info.

    That is correct... There's also an unlock token you can buy to bypass that requirement. But if you don't want to spend money to gain the unlock, Leveling your KDF character to 65 is the way to go.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 36,392 Arc User
    Can I get a list from folks of what ships you can't use currently? Those are all bugs. Anything that's locked is, IIRC, just something we missed.

    Also I have never lied to you. :)

    does that include ships that can't be claimed from the store until you reach a certain level? because there are several T3 & 4 ships i can't claim on my recruit, presumably because i haven't hit the rank needed to do so...which makes no sense that i can claim any T5 or T6 ship i want once i get out of the tutorial on any character, but i have to wait until an arbitrary level on lower tier ships​​
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    "Curiosity is bad! It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed...and more importantly, it makes you poor!"
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    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
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  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,702 Arc User
    Can I get a list from folks of what ships you can't use currently? Those are all bugs. Anything that's locked is, IIRC, just something we missed.

    Also I have never lied to you. :)

    Bold statement, I'd even say mostly accurate, but I recall you stating that combat tardigrade would be account-wide while livestreaming & promoting that Discovery Operations Pack & that never happened.
  • eladonwarps#6040 eladonwarps Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    So far, only ship I've had issues with has been mentioned, the Temporal Science Vessel (Verne et al), via Mudd. I don't have any lock box or promo ships though. Haven't had any issues with Z store ships.
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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 6,510 Arc User
    edited January 30
    Can I get a list from folks of what ships you can't use currently? Those are all bugs. Anything that's locked is, IIRC, just something we missed.

    Also I have never lied to you. :)

    does that include ships that can't be claimed from the store until you reach a certain level? because there are several T3 & 4 ships i can't claim on my recruit, presumably because i haven't hit the rank needed to do so...which makes no sense that i can claim any T5 or T6 ship i want once i get out of the tutorial on any character, but i have to wait until an arbitrary level on lower tier ships​​

    Tier 2-5 ships still have their level requirements. Tier 1 never had them and Tier 6 had them removed when scaling was enabled.

    The change ONLY removed faction requirements.
  • edrickvellorinedrickvellorin Member Posts: 314 Arc User
    Tier 2-5 ships will show up as available when you meet the level requirements, even if they're from another faction. (I saw that I could get a Utility Cruiser, among other stuff, on my KDF char via dil from the ship vendor.) Not sure if the event freighters (Kobayashi Maru and KDF freighter) are level locked. You may be able to reclaim them even if you can't open the box due to level.

    Note that Mudd's Market ships (and ships tab) won't show up until you've reached a certain level (level 4?) or certain point in the tutorial, not sure which.
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