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  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,621 Arc User
    Definitely gives me some romulan dyson ship vibes - especially from the nacelles and aft view.

    Interested in the unique gimmick(s) of the ship. While unlikely, I'd love to see it come with some quad AP cannons or something along the lines of the Mahta autocannon.

    It'd probably need some options like a full pilot spec/pilot maneuvers variant and battlecloak for me to give it serious consideration for actually using it though.
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,655 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2021
    The main hull is Romulan in design. I also think the wings look more Romulan than Klingon too - but that is more open to interpretation. The head is Klingon, and the cannons definitely have a Klingon look to them.

    I think it looks awesome, and look forward to getting hold of it. I also like the Alliance colour scheme, even if it does look a bit Cerberus (from Mass Effect) to me.

    Yea I also think it looks awesome! B)
    szerontzur wrote: »
    Definitely gives me some romulan dyson ship vibes - especially from the nacelles and aft view.

    Interested in the unique gimmick(s) of the ship. While unlikely, I'd love to see it come with some quad AP cannons or something along the lines of the Mahta autocannon.

    It'd probably need some options like a full pilot spec/pilot maneuvers variant and battlecloak for me to give it serious consideration for actually using it though.

    Yea it also gives me a Dyson Vibe as well. Still hoping we'll see a few T6 Dyson ships at some point, though the T6 Titan could fit into that category as well, given the Tactical Mode it shares with them.
    I like this ship design. As far as the colors, that's where vanity shields come in handy. Aside from the Romulan rep shield, the Ferengi Liquidators shield is also green. As for KDF style: Fek'lhri vanity shield. I'm curious whether it has a singularity core or warp core too, on the one hand I like the singularity core powers, on the other hand, they take up a bunch of tray slots. (Since the Khitomer was warp core, it wouldn't surprise me if the Temer is singularity core.)

    True about the Singularity using up Tray Space; thankfully a year ago Space was given a 4th row!
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    Well, they finally did it and gave the feds a honest to goodness kdf bop
    Knew it was a matter of time - Just wonder how long until they get an ebc varient...
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    I think the ship is ugly with that paint scheme. If it can do the other KDF colors it will look a lot better with them.
  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    Personally, I'm just curious to see the stats. I also already have a vanity shield in mind that can mitigate the, quite frankly, not exactly my first choice of colors.
    The Khitomer is ugly in form, this one is not ideal in colors. The latter is changeable, the former... not so much.

    Assuming it's got a warp core and not a singularity, I also have the perfect character in mind for it!
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    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 2,173 Arc User
    mattingly1 wrote: »
    The color scheme is *Khitomer Alliance*. That's why it's not green or grey -- the ship isn't Romulan or Klingon.

    Funny how that's now the Alliance paint scheme, when the Khitomer was brown and whitish grey - a clear nod to the Federation and Klingon Empire.

    Seems to me that the Khitomer Alliance's aesthetic changes to suit the mood of whatever artist is designing a given ship. In this case, they missed the mark. Black and white is ugly. It might as well be christened the AFS Spacecow.

    You need to get your eyes or your memory checked then. They're both *literally* the same color scheme -- ivory (ecru), dark grey, and yellow.

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  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    The Tenar does seem more dark, to be honest.
    It can be a trick of the light, so I guess we'll see in space once we can get our hands on it - I still maintain that the color schem is less than ideal, though it did work on my Khitomer for my ME themed character.

    Also, and forgive me for saying so but I work with colors every day, ecru and ivory are not the same thing.
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    Not agreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to be an TRIBBLE.

    Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
    - quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;

    Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,655 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2021
    I first thought it have Singularity, yet always wanted 1-2 Romulan ships with a Warp Core. As I've always wanted a Vulcan, and a Romulan joint design -- especially since the time Spock & D'Tan tried building stronger alliances between their people.

    At least we'll likely see a few other new Romulan ships; and a few more Federation Ships, as the Picard series progresses closer to our Space-Time, the conceptual model is called a continuum.

    For now we'll have to wait for the Klingon/Romulan's to unveil what they finally decided upon. :)
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  • minidariminidari Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    A little hard. If these ships are given, they will be smaller in size than the actual size.

    Earth Spacedock is smaller than USS Maathai - Angelou Class: D
  • mattingly1mattingly1 Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    > @corinthalas said:
    > You need to get your eyes or your memory checked then. They're both *literally* the same color scheme -- ivory (ecru), dark grey, and yellow.

    You have a real problem with insulting people over things that don't matter, guy. You're not going to change my mind on this. Have a pleasant day :).
  • eladonwarps#6040 eladonwarps Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    I can't be the only person who saw that they named it after Temer and started crying in a grocery store, right? I mean, talk about a nice story call-back.

    I don't care to fly escorts, but I will at least give it a shot, for his memory if nothing else. I loved the Khitomer Battlecruiser after originally thinking it would come out ugly, so I'm looking forward to this one, too.
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  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    I'm liking the looks of it from the limited screen pics of it I've seen so far.

    I do worry about the stats though since Cryptic likes to nerf such things when a ship has abilities like Raider Flanking, I doubt it will receive Improved Raider Flanking, & I'd be impressed if it came with a Pilot ability.

    The color scheme doesn't bother me, especially with all the vanity shields & added aesthetics from equipment sets available.

    I do see what some others are stating abut lacking an obvious Romulan influence, if it had had a negative-space opening somewhere on the ship perhaps that would've made a difference.

    I'll definitely attempt to earn it, but I'll have to wait & see more details about whether or not it will replace any current ship piloted or perhaps for a new Klingon.
  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,643 Arc User
    Well my Alliance captain is going to enjoy this new ship
  • dragonturtletimmydragonturtletimmy Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    5/1 weapon format, has a battle cloak and uses a regular warp core not a singularity core.
  • mattingly1mattingly1 Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    5/1 weapon format, has a battle cloak and uses a regular warp core not a singularity core.

    Ouch.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    Yucky on the 5/1 weapon layout even with an Experimental weapon. I missed the 10FW stream does it at least have Improved Raider Flanking to justify the loss of a weapon slot or is it just normal Raider Flanking? Nice that it uses a Warp Core & has Battle Cloak though, an Enhanced would've been better.
  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Raiders having 6 weapons have been a thing forever now...and if it is gonna have 6 weapons, a 5/1 is about as good as it gets.

    Yeah, I don't see what's the problem about it, tbh. It's not like it's something new.
    Also, 5/1 on a free ship considering the other raiders with this configuration are all either lobi or lockbox/r&d (with the exception of the Miradorn, if you will, but that one is not exactly affordable for most, either) it's very nice.
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    Not agreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to be an TRIBBLE.

    Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
    - quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;

    Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,183 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Raiders having 6 weapons have been a thing forever now...and if it is gonna have 6 weapons, a 5/1 is about as good as it gets.

    Yeah, I don't see what's the problem about it, tbh. It's not like it's something new.
    Also, 5/1 on a free ship considering the other raiders with this configuration are all either lobi or lockbox/r&d (with the exception of the Miradorn, if you will, but that one is not exactly affordable for most, either) it's very nice.

    That's true, i'm not too keen on raiders, but this one, i like... i'll put the KDF kelvin vanity on it... it will look great!
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  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    gaevsman wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Raiders having 6 weapons have been a thing forever now...and if it is gonna have 6 weapons, a 5/1 is about as good as it gets.

    Yeah, I don't see what's the problem about it, tbh. It's not like it's something new.
    Also, 5/1 on a free ship considering the other raiders with this configuration are all either lobi or lockbox/r&d (with the exception of the Miradorn, if you will, but that one is not exactly affordable for most, either) it's very nice.

    That's true, i'm not too keen on raiders, but this one, i like... i'll put the KDF kelvin vanity on it... it will look great!

    Now that sounds like a very nice combination! Be sure to post a screenshot somewhere :D
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    Not agreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to be an TRIBBLE.

    Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
    - quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;

    Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    burstorion wrote: »
    Well, they finally did it and gave the feds a honest to goodness kdf bop
    Knew it was a matter of time - Just wonder how long until they get an ebc varient...

    The Alliance Temer Raider is a unique starship – fitting command and control capabilities into a compact, lightweight shell. In order to ensure it survives to coordinate the battle, it features high maneuverability, an Enhanced Battle Cloaking Device, and a weapons layout with an emphasis on longer-ranged attacks. In trials, it’s been shown to exceed at performing a support role from the shadows, appearing for a matter of seconds to strike before vanishing again.

    This starship features a Lieutenant Commander Universal/Command Specialization seat.

    -Blinks, rereads, blinks again and flips a metaphorical table-
    -Notices it has a COMMAND slot on an ebc ship (as the Kor should have had) and makes the table to a triple flip-

    Maybe its time for my KDFs to start drinking the fed kool-aid...
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,183 Arc User
    gaevsman wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Raiders having 6 weapons have been a thing forever now...and if it is gonna have 6 weapons, a 5/1 is about as good as it gets.

    Yeah, I don't see what's the problem about it, tbh. It's not like it's something new.
    Also, 5/1 on a free ship considering the other raiders with this configuration are all either lobi or lockbox/r&d (with the exception of the Miradorn, if you will, but that one is not exactly affordable for most, either) it's very nice.

    That's true, i'm not too keen on raiders, but this one, i like... i'll put the KDF kelvin vanity on it... it will look great!

    Now that sounds like a very nice combination! Be sure to post a screenshot somewhere :D

    No problem!, thou i'm pretty sure someone else will do it first.. :lol:
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  • vongravenvongraven Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    How do you like the trait and the console? Seems like a good add to me. I kinda lack good AP consoles for my AP build and the torp trait is worth a try.
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    Well the stats on this ship clearly put the Kor to shame. I have to wonder what the legendary Kor is going to be, if it will be. I imagine the trait will be underwhelming but there aren't a lot of torpedo traits, so it may still be useful for torpedo builds.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    I was anticipating this Temer-class to be lukewarm with mild okay stats but overall I'm a bit impressed with it. I still think there's isn't enough Romulan-style appearance influence, but the ship still looks good to me. Cryptic impressed me with including BOTH Improved Raider Flanking & Enhanced Battlecloak even though both are situational. While the BOFF seating isn't revolutionary it is still well-suited & I like the options it provides. I'm looking forward to earning the ship. No way I'd recommend buying-out though if for dilithium since Cryptic doesn't seem eager to fix the completed event dilithium payouts.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,036 Arc User
    edited January 2021
    I guess it looks nicer than the previous Alliance ship, however I would be more interested in a rom and gam hybrid ship rather than a rom and kdf one.
  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef Member Posts: 644 Arc User
    Well the stats on this ship clearly put the Kor to shame. I have to wonder what the legendary Kor is going to be, if it will be. I imagine the trait will be underwhelming but there aren't a lot of torpedo traits, so it may still be useful for torpedo builds.

    Yeah, recently switched from the fleet B'rel to the Rom legendary for my stealth bomber. The Temer won't be quite as good but I'll have less issues using it. Felt wrong having my Klingon fly a TOS Romulan bird.
  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef Member Posts: 644 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    I guess it looks nicer than the previous Alliance ship, however I would be more interested in a rom and gam hybrid ship rather than a rom and kdf one.

    Honestly, the Khitomer has grown on me over the past year, I use it for Anti-proton endavours.

  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,915 Arc User
    With Starfleet characters will be able to have KDF ships with this update, it renders the new Alliance 'BoP raider' ship pointless.
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    With Starfleet characters will be able to have KDF ships with this update, it renders the new Alliance 'BoP raider' ship pointless.

    No it doesn't, this is literally the best BoP Cryptic have released; compared to the Fleet Kor, the Temer has more hull, more shields, better weapons layout, 1 more device slot, better spec seat for cloaking torpedo bombers, an extra boff slot (ok, boffs are a bit more debatable as the Cmdr slot is fixed, but you were probably going to put a Tac there anyway) extra Tac console, better flanking and better trait. (for torpedo bombers at least)

    The only advantages a Kor has over the Temer is in turn rate, pilot seating if you want that, and the trait is more generically useful. Ship to ship the Kor is obsolete.
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