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  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    I will just do 3 toons per day I guess cause I dont want to do all 9 at once
  • chanfron66chanfron66 Member Posts: 107 Arc User
    didn't you read it in the patch notes :#

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  • fred26291#2759 fred26291 Member Posts: 1,064 Arc User
    I have no intention of respecing all my people again and wasting yet another 2 hours to do all 12 toons.
    They will sit there as is with broken skills for a verry long time.
  • p331p331 Member Posts: 124 Arc User
    Did they give a free respec token for this patch yet?
  • fred26291#2759 fred26291 Member Posts: 1,064 Arc User
    Yes a free respec is sitting there waiting for everyone.
    Thats not the point - the point is the time it takes to respec every character is quite time consuming and I only have 12 what about the people with 40, 50 and 60.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,813 Arc User
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  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,643 Arc User
    Freaking wonderful thanks cryptic now I have to do this in 40 toons again after the last time you did this. How about fixing this issue so we don’t have to do this over and over and over
  • lordbrowaruslordbrowarus Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    I have no intention of respecing all my people again and wasting yet another 2 hours to do all 12 toons.
    They will sit there as is with broken skills for a verry long time.

    ^^^ this. I just don't want to do it all over again on 15 alts with skills and traits and bars setup. I was gathering dil = zen for KDF legendary pack, that now seems to be maybe at the end of "year of the klingons", so in about half a year.
    With this and event fatigue it just seems like good point to take a break from this game, that become more like obligatory work than fun. My previous break lasts for 4 years.
  • darknovasc01darknovasc01 Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    It is an issue, but say rather in the nature of the developers' attitude towards their playerbase...
  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,643 Arc User
    shadowkosh wrote: »
    Freaking wonderful thanks cryptic now I have to do this in 40 toons again after the last time you did this. How about fixing this issue so we don’t have to do this over and over and over
    It isn't an "issue".

    Last time it was done because they changed some underlying code on how skills work, this time it was done because they split ground and space active traits. Both were intentionally done.

    When you have 40 toons to now fix after you just spent nearly three weeks doing since the last time this happened I would definitely call it an issue I cannot enjoy the game because I have to spend time fixing them again this is totally ridiculous this should have been fixed before they did this so we didn’t have to respec over and over again
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    Well if it is true, haven't logged-in today, about another Skill Tree respec then so be it. I'm not thrilled about it, but I don't terribly mind it neither if it is another free respec. I know the more toons you have, that you actively play, the more the hassle it is. I just try to think of it as an irritation that is neccessary in progressing the game for the better & I do think this Loadout mechanic is an improvement but shouldn't be complete yet. I'll just take my time & pace myself with the respecs if needed.
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,725 Arc User
    Right now, I'll just respec the toons I'll be taking through the event.

    That would be five. My two accts and my family's accts. Not gonna leave them out of getting a targ.
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 3,919 Arc User
    shadowkosh wrote: »
    When you have 40 toons to now fix after you just spent nearly three weeks doing since the last time this happened I would definitely call it an issue I cannot enjoy the game because I have to spend time fixing them again this is totally ridiculous this should have been fixed before they did this so we didn’t have to respec over and over again
    And again, there is nothing to fix.

    If they make some sort of change to the base code of the skill/trait system, then anything using the old skill/trait system(i.e. anything you currently have) is going to become invalid.
    ^^^
    Only because of Cryptic LAZY way of programming. (And I have a programming degree and all they are dealing with is large database info.) IF they wanted to, they could have taken the time to translate and transform data, but they must feel it's a waste of programming time because the player base is so conditioned to just accepting whatever they do.
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  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    There's lots of stuff to fix, actually.

    But let's just go with: next time, put it in the patch notes where it belongs, so people can get mentally prepared to having to do this, AGAIN, instead of leaving them in the dark... AGAIN.

    Communication gets worse every time.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,913 Arc User
    Annoyed but not surprised in the least.

    At least I only have 10 characters and since doing it the last time, I have everything memorized. I can re-spec a character in a couple minutes.

    Still, it's an annoyance and agreed it should have been in the patch notes. Most players don't regularly check their skills, they allocate the points and forget it. This means that players are flying around with invalid skills and they have absolutely no idea.

    It should have been in the patch notes, but again.. no surprise that it wasn't.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,813 Arc User
    shadowkosh wrote: »
    When you have 40 toons to now fix after you just spent nearly three weeks doing since the last time this happened I would definitely call it an issue I cannot enjoy the game because I have to spend time fixing them again this is totally ridiculous this should have been fixed before they did this so we didn’t have to respec over and over again
    And again, there is nothing to fix.

    If they make some sort of change to the base code of the skill/trait system, then anything using the old skill/trait system(i.e. anything you currently have) is going to become invalid.

    If it's something they are going to be doing frequently like this then they should write a script that can read our old skilltree data and quickly produce a copy of it that's compatible with the new code. It was aggravating enough when it happened the first time and it's even more infuriating to have to do it again just a few weeks later, it would be absolute insanity if it happens a third time in the near future without an automated solution to resolve it.
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  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    shadowkosh wrote: »
    When you have 40 toons to now fix after you just spent nearly three weeks doing since the last time this happened I would definitely call it an issue I cannot enjoy the game because I have to spend time fixing them again this is totally ridiculous this should have been fixed before they did this so we didn’t have to respec over and over again
    And again, there is nothing to fix.

    If they make some sort of change to the base code of the skill/trait system, then anything using the old skill/trait system(i.e. anything you currently have) is going to become invalid.

    no, they should have done BOTH code changes so we would only have to do this ONCE. it's pure bull-squeeze that they did not do it that way, and indicates a disregard for the playerbase. no one can convince me for a moment that they did not know this would happen, and that either of them were unplanned. Software begins development more than 6 months before release. most other games would admit they Effed up and offer something to compensate the playerbase. hell even a timewaster game on my phone gave gifts for unplanned server downtime.
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  • tasshenatasshena Member Posts: 516 Arc User
    *takes 3 screenshots, opens a text file*

    Screenshot of space skills, screenshot of ground skills, screenshot of traits, text file for one word notes on the bonuses picked for levels of categories. Not that hard ^_^​​
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