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  • protoneousprotoneous Member Posts: 2,518 Arc User
    protoneous wrote: »
    Kobiyashi Maru is annoying, but, IMO, you can at least have fun working with your team to try to keep the KM alive for as long as possible.

    There's not even that in a bunch of older TFOs like Infected Space, Crystalline Entity, the Tholian ground TFOs, Breach, Colony Invasion, Bug Hunt.
    Thanks for listing some of my favorite older TFO's :smile:
    protoneous wrote: »
    Thanks for listing some of my favorite older TFO's

    I'm sure a lot of people like the TFOs that are so effortless that you could make a bot to run them solo and get the maximum reward.
    The statement you made regarding the TFO's you listed is just so wrong. Thanks for taking a dump on my fun.

    To quote Scotty in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock - "Up your shaft" (with reference to the turbo lift).

    After reading the past few pages of this thread I don't believe there's any room left to find middle ground with you on something that could be considered, in part, a matter of personal taste.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,913 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    I now never have to play this mission again. So fin fact...the queue time went from under 30 seconds to now over 10 min. I think a lot of people are done with this thing as they finish their event. I feel sorry for the poor saps who couldn't play due to the directX bug and who will now have to wait forever to get this thing to pop. I fully expect Som to say how he has no problem getting it pop in 3...2...1...

    I noticed that even my last day that I did it.. I ran it late in the day so a lot of people had picked up their last run earlier. Previously, the queue popped for me in about 10-30 seconds, my last run took a few min to pop and there were a lot of people on. Once we get another week in.. yeah, this thing is going to be brutal to find a match for.

    And yes, I am sure that soon Captain Cryptic at the helm of the U.S.S. White Knight will warp in and tell us that it pops instantly and everyone loves it. You can count on that for sure! :lol:
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,223 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    > @protoneous said:
    > After reading the past few pages of this thread I don't believe there's any room left to find middle ground with you on something that could be considered, in part, a matter of personal taste.


    Hehe no, there is not. That is if it’s even about personal taste which I have given up hope on.

    For a long time I suspected his issues to be like we had with this other dude around here (cannot remember his name but was something like sloppygimpoo). We play an RPG with a substantial progression curve after a decade and on some maps the outcome between those who go for it and those who don’t really surface. Of course this causes frustration and even a bizarre experience for some as only the strong players can participate and get a game out of it while the weak ones are only spectating a short and easy ISA run without any tiny contribution to its fastness and easiness on their part.

    But no, not the case here. It’s really only about what content he thinks cryptic backs and what content he believes cryptic is unhappy with. That’s his only „personal“ taste and every time, on every topic he gets a competent discussion partner like pottsey it gets more and more obvious. There is nothing to be reasoned or discussed with as you just seem to deal with an advertisement flyer.

    Sea and Napalm do it right here you know. They take it with a sense of humor and call it a day. I would really not mind finding out why he is doing all of it but I can also live with it if I don’t.

    In any case it’s so much fun if one does not participate in a discussion with him and just follows how others do it. You can literally leave for a year and get back. The times will be different, the topics will be different and his discussion partner will be different. The only thing that will still be the very same is the role that he plays here. It is literally written in stone and highly unlikely to be about personal taste. :)
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  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    edited October 2020
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    I now never have to play this mission again. So fin fact...the queue time went from under 30 seconds to now over 10 min. I think a lot of people are done with this thing as they finish their event. I feel sorry for the poor saps who couldn't play due to the directX bug and who will now have to wait forever to get this thing to pop. I fully expect Som to say how he has no problem getting it pop in 3...2...1...

    Let's hope they know about the various chat channels you can use to organize runs. Or maybe they can get help from their fleetmates?
    Otherwise, thank god there's an episode - as recicled as it is - this time around!
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    - quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;

    Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,485 Arc User
    I usually do the Bonus Dilithium runs, however when I finished on Monday I did not do the second run. Yesterday, I didn't run it either and started the Neverwinter Uprising Campaign instead. Still not sure about today.
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  • eladonwarps#6040 eladonwarps Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    I've been running for daily Dil, and I'll continue. My experiences have been mixed, but overwhelmingly it's often the case where we lose out when one or more people decide to intentionally grief the others.

    On the day I got the grand prize reward, my first run rewarded poorly by people refusing to do the objectives. One very blatantly flew around across the circle shooting things, then cloaked over the starbase until the end. The others just seemed to aimlessly fly and autofire. Under 100 points between the rest of us. The really annoying part was that I couldn't report the cloaked one for griefing, the "report player to GM" just did nothing.

    For the first bonus Dil run later, a few of us got together and pledged to do a Maximum Effort run. We formed a private queue, took a few minutes to get some friends to do it, but we scored way higher. Spread out, covered ships, still lost a few but rewarded accordingly. Bonus Marks were clearly worth it for us.

    I've PUGged a few more times since then, and it follows the same pattern. If one or more people decide to just refuse to do any transporting, it hurts the final tally. You get some in the middle, people who overlap each others' zones too much or transport slowly because of piloting missteps, but they're trying and I'm okay with that.

    In my experience so far, groups are filling up much faster in the (Pacific-Server Time) morning, either because the early crowd is eager to keep the cooldown before a possible patch day, or the Night Owl European crowd wants to play it more. You can also tell because some of the custom chat channels are making more calls then, but they still fill up later as well.

    Look, if someone wants to form their own "minimum-effort" runs, okay, fine. But stay out of Public Queues with that.
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  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,870 Arc User
    When this comes to console I can see me making good use of the range on the PS4 controller to bumble around beaming stuff from the kitchen as I make my dinner rather than being sat on the sofa paying attention. It's my usual time for STO and most event stuff is more engaged with, for example binary stars actually aids food prep thanks to the insistence that the cutscene is still unskippable and the 90 secs or so thumbtwiddling time at the start was never shortened.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,223 Arc User
    edited October 2020

    Look, if someone wants to form their own "minimum-effort" runs, okay, fine. But stay out of Public Queues with that.

    Hell yea man, thats the spirit! Next time I DPS out some AFK penalties in ISA or during the Red Alerts next week I tell em that. >:)
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    felisean wrote: »
    teamwork to reach a goal is awesome and highly appreciated
    Bring it on
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    wishful thinking is not really a reliable source
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,913 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Look, if someone wants to form their own "minimum-effort" runs, okay, fine. But stay out of Public Queues with that.

    Or...whoever wants their own special requirements could form their own queue and stay the F away from PUGs. Be it min effort, max effort, no deeps or all deeps and stop telling the public to play their way or else. I am glad your reports did NOTHING because reporting players in a PUBLIC queue for playing their way is TOXIC as all hell.

    Bingo!

    When you queue public, you don't get to make demands. If you have a specific way you want people to play then form a private queue. Otherwise, take what you get and deal with it.

    Reporting people because you don't feel they did enough is childish and idiotic.
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  • varethaelvarethael Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    Except horrible music this TFO is bit long, but very good, especially when it helps you lv up ship mastery, quite fast.
  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,455 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Look, if someone wants to form their own "minimum-effort" runs, okay, fine. But stay out of Public Queues with that.

    Or...whoever wants their own special requirements could form their own queue and stay the F away from PUGs. Be it min effort, max effort, no deeps or all deeps and stop telling the public to play their way or else. I am glad your reports did NOTHING because reporting players in a PUBLIC queue for playing their way is TOXIC as all hell.

    Bingo!

    When you queue public, you don't get to make demands. If you have a specific way you want people to play then form a private queue. Otherwise, take what you get and deal with it.

    Reporting people because you don't feel they did enough is childish and idiotic.

    Funny this is being talked about, forgive me for saying this, but one ignoramus decided to PM everyone in the team for AFK'n, stating reported for AFK'n - Here is the catch, most of us were on carriers directing our pets towards traget near the end, a typical playstyle for most carrier base Captains.

    So I agree, in public queues, one should not be so quick to jump to conclusions or be dissatisfied for players not playing their way, basically form your own team and do a private queue.

    **NOTE: Hated Picard and I hate that this TFO reference that horrible abortion of a Trek show, and the TFO is extremely long - Give it a pass for the first time around, but twenty consecutive days is quite mind numbing.

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  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Look, if someone wants to form their own "minimum-effort" runs, okay, fine. But stay out of Public Queues with that.

    Or...whoever wants their own special requirements could form their own queue and stay the F away from PUGs. Be it min effort, max effort, no deeps or all deeps and stop telling the public to play their way or else. I am glad your reports did NOTHING because reporting players in a PUBLIC queue for playing their way is TOXIC as all hell.

    Bingo!

    When you queue public, you don't get to make demands. If you have a specific way you want people to play then form a private queue. Otherwise, take what you get and deal with it.

    Reporting people because you don't feel they did enough is childish and idiotic.

    Unfortunately, I doubt we can expect anything more than "childish and idiotic" from a good number of players.
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    Not agreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to be an TRIBBLE.

    Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
    - quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;

    Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 4,408 Arc User
    stark2k wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Look, if someone wants to form their own "minimum-effort" runs, okay, fine. But stay out of Public Queues with that.

    Or...whoever wants their own special requirements could form their own queue and stay the F away from PUGs. Be it min effort, max effort, no deeps or all deeps and stop telling the public to play their way or else. I am glad your reports did NOTHING because reporting players in a PUBLIC queue for playing their way is TOXIC as all hell.

    Bingo!

    When you queue public, you don't get to make demands. If you have a specific way you want people to play then form a private queue. Otherwise, take what you get and deal with it.

    Reporting people because you don't feel they did enough is childish and idiotic.

    Funny this is being talked about, forgive me for saying this, but one ignoramus decided to PM everyone in the team for AFK'n, stating reported for AFK'n - Here is the catch, most of us were on carriers directing our pets towards traget near the end, a typical playstyle for most carrier base Captains.

    So I agree, in public queues, one should not be so quick to jump to conclusions or be dissatisfied for players not playing their way, basically form your own team and do a private queue.

    **NOTE: Hated Picard and I hate that this TFO reference that horrible abortion of a Trek show, and the TFO is extremely long - Give it a pass for the first time around, but twenty consecutive days is quite mind numbing.

    Players tend to assume quite a bit even when hovering the mouse or whatever would tell them what is really happening, and it is not just in STO that they do that.

    For example in ESO I once queued for a dungeon as a DPS with an Orc magicka dragonknight (a class that can be a tank but the staff-wielding magic version like I had is usually DPS or support). I happened to have a metal breastplate because it had decent mods built in for a magic user and mixed armor is rather typical anyway.

    Apparently someone else was impatient and queued up as tank (since they usually don't have to wait as long) but was actually a DPS (it wouldn't be a healer, they average a shorter wait than tanks). Anyway, since my gear looked rather tankish an no one else's did apparently everyone assumed I was the tank (though it did not occur to me at the time that they would since I carried a staff).

    Of course things went sideways since no one was actually tanking and afterwards I got all sorts of hate messages about how lousy a tank I was...
  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,351 Community Moderator
    and that's enough out of this mess. if you folks can discuss things nicely then that's the end of this. /closed
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