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corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 2,331 Arc User
...in what universe is any quantity of specialization points comparable to an ultimate upgrade? I mean, are there any numbers suggesting that there are players who actually choose the specialization points and not the ultimate upgrade? I'm genuinely curious, because this feels like a non-choice to me.

Note: I'm not complaining about the ultimate upgrade. I'm just confused why it's being rewarded against a choice specialization points.
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  • p331p331 Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    You actually receive both the ultimate upgrade and the Specialization point.
  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    And you get to save borg cubes from Tholians in Tholian RA, as a bonus
  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    Imagine if the Borg Cubes had sent a distress call and then we got in responding to it - would be funny
  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,100 Arc User
    ...in what universe is any quantity of specialization points comparable to an ultimate upgrade? I mean, are there any numbers suggesting that there are players who actually choose the specialization points and not the ultimate upgrade? I'm genuinely curious, because this feels like a non-choice to me.

    Note: I'm not complaining about the ultimate upgrade. I'm just confused why it's being rewarded against a choice specialization points.

    I think it depends on the kind of player you are. Meaning: if you're new, you may not know that an Ultimate Tech Upgrade is something that you cannot get THAT easily OR you may think "you know what, there's no point in getting a single piece up to max mark and quality when I have very low specializations".
    Also, there are those that cannot play all that much, so a specialization point could be more useful to them than an Upgrade.

    These are just a couple of examples, but I'm pretty sure there are more reasons why someone would go for a SP instead of a UTU.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,974 Community Moderator
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    Imagine if the Borg Cubes had sent a distress call and then we got in responding to it - would be funny

    While Starfleet Regulations require a starship to respond to any distress call... a Collective Cube would probably be a situation where Starfleet wouldn't object to just turning around and TRIBBLE.
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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,206 Arc User
    I honestly don't understand it. If it was like 5 or 10 spec points I might be tempted. But its an easy choice for the Ultimate
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    Oh Im happy with both.

    The upgrader is much needed after I speed adjusted my Styx to the broken ba‘ul kemo poo without patience.

    The spec point will go to the save bank where a few dozen other ones already wait. I save em for bad times when cryptic gets me to do another recruit and at which point I will be able to bring it in line quickly.
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  • voodoopokeyvoodoopokey Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    ...in what universe is any quantity of specialization points comparable to an ultimate upgrade? I mean, are there any numbers suggesting that there are players who actually choose the specialization points and not the ultimate upgrade? I'm genuinely curious, because this feels like a non-choice to me.

    No, which is why they've never asked players to choose between an Ultimate Upgrade and a Specialization Point.

    There was, at one point, short events that would once per day reward you with a choice of a Specialization Point or an Enhanced Universal Tech Upgrade, but that upgrade was weaker than a single Phoenix Universal Tech Upgrade.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    Yeah, I don't get this thread. It clearly says in the announcement that the reward is a Specialization Point AND and Ultimate Upgrade.. it never says you have to choose between them.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    > @rattler2 said:
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    > While Starfleet Regulations require a starship to respond to any distress call... a Collective Cube would probably be a situation where Starfleet wouldn't object to just turning around and TRIBBLE.

    Like the Cerritos. :)
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  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    I enjoy the Red Alert weekends. They're not too demanding of course but they don't offer a trove of rewards neither. I do wish that the Red Alert mark rewarding was eligible for the daily bonus for a Reputation the first time then after of course only the 35 marks.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,974 Community Moderator
    I just wish I had a spec tree to put a spec point into.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    I have 160+ 1/4 point specializations sitting in my account bank, not to mention dozens of full points.

    Frankly, I don't even know where they all came from. I just double click them into the stockpile whenever one of my alts seems to get one from somewhere. I bet most players over a couple years old are similar.

    And, they're all account bound.

    So yeah, a spec point doesn't compare to an ultimate upgrade.
  • lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    well, when you complete a spec point at maxed character you get some unref dill - its not much of course but it adds up especially since cryptic made admiralty less useful for dill some time ago
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,974 Community Moderator
    At this point I wonder what even a new spec would entail that isn't covered by the other specs.

    Don't know. But we kinda need something new to work towards after maxing everything out.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,593 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I just wish I had a spec tree to put a spec point into.
    At this point I wonder what even a new spec would entail that isn't covered by the other specs.

    nothing that would not be waaayy OP
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,974 Community Moderator
    We could have Commando expanded like Pilot was.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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