At least players won't have to rebuy their ships though.
We get one free token, some can be had through Phoenix boxes and the costs are much lower. (1000 Zen instead of whatever a true T7 ship would have cost.)
I'd say that this is much better than actual T7 ships. But I must admit that I don't use specialisation abilities that much.
[4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother
Question is should I upgrade one of my miracle worker ships with one (maquis raider/vaadwaur jugganought/mw intrepid) or one of my favorite/non-MW ships such as the Hestia?
When I use this X-Upgrade token on a Zen Ship what happens to the fleet version?
Is the fleet verion upgraded as well to T6-X?
I mean when I use a T5-U Token on a Zen-Schip then the fleet version is upgraded to T5-U too.
Will this happen here with the T6 fleet version of the Zen Ships too?
I think this is a good way to introduce this functionality, and also a reasonable and fair price. In principle, free-to-play players can use their farmed dilithium to get these tokens if they want, and 2000 Zen for 3 Tokens is also fair.
I'll apply the first free token I get to the Legendary Galaxy class. #MaketheGalaxyclassgreatagain
A zero cost way for Cryptic to finance and expand the foundry
Ignoring the powercreep problem, like others I find this is a good way to introduce upgrades. I like how the tokens are applied and how I can buy them via dill, Zen or EC. From the mechanics of how this all works it looks positive.
My concern is, if I use an Experimental Upgrade (such as the free one or one from a zen bundle),
will I then regret it if I somehow get hold of an Experimental Prototype Upgrade (which it's very unclear how you obtain).
And if that's the case, then won't everyone want Experimental Prototype Upgrades to the point that Experimental Upgrades are worthless?
Question is should I upgrade one of my miracle worker ships with one (maquis raider/vaadwaur jugganought/mw intrepid) or one of my favorite/non-MW ships such as the Hestia?
If you pilot both on a regular basis I's say clearly both :-)
Starting very soon on PC (and soon after that on Console), you'll be able to upgrade your T6 and T5-U ships with an additional Device, Trait and Console slot, using tokens you can find throughout the game - and every player can claim a free token.
The Only thing not answered in the FAQ is how many times can you apply this Upgrade on a single ship, can you add 10 upgrade tokens to a single ship for:
When I use this X-Upgrade token on a Zen Ship what happens to the fleet version?
Nothing, the fleet ship is an entirely different ship then the normal Zen ship. If you upgrade the zen ship, then any copy of that ship you get will have the upgrade.
If you get a fleet version of that ship, that ship needs its own upgrade token, and will apply to any copy of the fleet ship you have on your account.
What a shame. I thought is will works like the T5-U Token. When I use a T5U Token on an zen ship, then the fleet version is upgraded too.
Does this mean there's going to be content to actually warrant this new addition to powercreep? And I don't mean adding a few more enemies to the blobs that spawn on top of the player that currently passes for "challenge"
Does this mean there's going to be content to actually warrant this new addition to powercreep? And I don't mean adding a few more enemies to the blobs that spawn on top of the player that currently passes for "challenge"
I'm not sure if you have been in any TFO's lately, but the average player in the game still struggles to put out 10k DPS a times. Maybe the intent behind this is to try and help the bottom end improve their damage output a little.
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OK, these upgrades seem like a good idea if you want to get a little bit more out of your T6 ship, but this begs the question if we really need T7 ships? After all, T6 ships scale with you.
Plus, T7 will bring the usual price increase:
T1 - $5 (Level 1+)
T2 - $7.50 (Level 10+)
T3 - $10 (Level 20+)
Tiers seem to increase by $2.50 until...
T4 - $15 (Level 30+)
T5 - $20 (A few T5 ships are 2000zen, and for level 40+)
Not content with T5 ships being available at level 40, suddenly they became level 50+
T5 - $25
T6 - $30 (Level 50+, later changed to scalable)
Logically, T6 ships should have remained at $25 where level 50+ ships already lay, and T5 ships lowered to L40+ & $20 (2000z) to match the existing T1-4 pattern, as T6 versions became available.
T7 - $35 ?? (Will they be Level 60+? Scalable like T6's? New features?)
T5-U was supposed to be a way of making T5 ships continue to be useful at endgame, but T5-U is basically scoffed at.
Whenever T7 ships come - and they will come - players flying T6 and T6-X ships will become the new laughing-stock.
We may criticise Cryptic for their apparent attitude toward the game at times, but we players can be just as toxic, if not more so.
I'm not sure where I was going with this post, so let me TL;DR it:
New (optional) ship upgrades = Good
Promo Upgrade for free = Good
Player Attitude = Let's be a bit more positive and not complain about stuff that really doesn't need complaining about.
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All T7 talk is irrelivant.. it's already been said that this isn't currently even on the radar.
Not sure why everyone is obsessing over the T7 ships that might never come. Incremental upgrades to the T6 line is absolutely the way to go, honestly it would be idiotic of them to even consider T7 at this point.
This is exactly the kind of upgrade a lot of us have been wanting for a while now. I'm a bit disappointed that the upgrade doesn't apply to the fleet variant, however making it an account wide unlock makes up for it. Sure you have to use two upgrade tokens, for the c store and fleet variant, but only having to do it once on a toon for all your toons is superior. I'm more concerned that these "upgrades" can be used on the ships in the Legendary packs... which were already a step above what is currently available at T6, effectively making them comparable or better than any T7 ships you would make down the road. Only thing I could see you doing with T7 ships in the future would have fully universal, selectable specialist BOFF seating.
Why would you want to upgrade both the c-store and the fleet version of the same ship? I would think that just upgrading the fleet version would be better since that is the ship you would actually be flying.
I purchased the Mudd's Temporal bundle a while back... Since the version of ship you get is dependent on the faction of the toon, if I use a token to upgrade, say, the Klein Temporal Destroyer, would the upgrade then apply to the Chargh'Poh and the Tal'aura?
Just wondering...
Thanks!
CM
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A suggestion: Currently you can buy lesser Phoenix Box tokens on 1 to 2 trade in. Would it be possible to be able to do the reverse? I'd be willing to pay 4-5 very rare/purple tokens to get 1 ultra rare token in order to get the T6 Upgrade. Both epic and ultra rare tokens are very scarce. This would be a great addition to get the upgrades as well.
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We get one free token, some can be had through Phoenix boxes and the costs are much lower. (1000 Zen instead of whatever a true T7 ship would have cost.)
I'd say that this is much better than actual T7 ships. But I must admit that I don't use specialisation abilities that much.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
T5-Us weren't T6s. So what's with the distrust?
Is the fleet verion upgraded as well to T6-X?
I mean when I use a T5-U Token on a Zen-Schip then the fleet version is upgraded to T5-U too.
Will this happen here with the T6 fleet version of the Zen Ships too?
MfG
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I'll apply the first free token I get to the Legendary Galaxy class. #MaketheGalaxyclassgreatagain
https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1247522/foundry-sunset-april-11th-2019/p15
Look at my post about a Foundry Ship
BRING BACK THE FOUNDRY!
will I then regret it if I somehow get hold of an Experimental Prototype Upgrade (which it's very unclear how you obtain).
And if that's the case, then won't everyone want Experimental Prototype Upgrades to the point that Experimental Upgrades are worthless?
If you pilot both on a regular basis I's say clearly both :-)
The Only thing not answered in the FAQ is how many times can you apply this Upgrade on a single ship, can you add 10 upgrade tokens to a single ship for:
+10 Device Slot
+10 Universal Console Slot
+10 Star Ship Trait Slot ?
What a shame. I thought is will works like the T5-U Token. When I use a T5U Token on an zen ship, then the fleet version is upgraded too.
MfG
Does this mean there's going to be content to actually warrant this new addition to powercreep? And I don't mean adding a few more enemies to the blobs that spawn on top of the player that currently passes for "challenge"
I'm not sure if you have been in any TFO's lately, but the average player in the game still struggles to put out 10k DPS a times. Maybe the intent behind this is to try and help the bottom end improve their damage output a little.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Plus, T7 will bring the usual price increase:
T1 - $5 (Level 1+)
T2 - $7.50 (Level 10+)
T3 - $10 (Level 20+)
Tiers seem to increase by $2.50 until...
T4 - $15 (Level 30+)
T5 - $20 (A few T5 ships are 2000zen, and for level 40+)
Not content with T5 ships being available at level 40, suddenly they became level 50+
T5 - $25
T6 - $30 (Level 50+, later changed to scalable)
Logically, T6 ships should have remained at $25 where level 50+ ships already lay, and T5 ships lowered to L40+ & $20 (2000z) to match the existing T1-4 pattern, as T6 versions became available.
T7 - $35 ?? (Will they be Level 60+? Scalable like T6's? New features?)
T5-U was supposed to be a way of making T5 ships continue to be useful at endgame, but T5-U is basically scoffed at.
Whenever T7 ships come - and they will come - players flying T6 and T6-X ships will become the new laughing-stock.
We may criticise Cryptic for their apparent attitude toward the game at times, but we players can be just as toxic, if not more so.
I'm not sure where I was going with this post, so let me TL;DR it:
New (optional) ship upgrades = Good
Promo Upgrade for free = Good
Player Attitude = Let's be a bit more positive and not complain about stuff that really doesn't need complaining about.
Not sure why everyone is obsessing over the T7 ships that might never come. Incremental upgrades to the T6 line is absolutely the way to go, honestly it would be idiotic of them to even consider T7 at this point.
I purchased the Mudd's Temporal bundle a while back... Since the version of ship you get is dependent on the faction of the toon, if I use a token to upgrade, say, the Klein Temporal Destroyer, would the upgrade then apply to the Chargh'Poh and the Tal'aura?
Just wondering...
Thanks!
CM
Perhaps another thread would be a better place asking such a question & solving your problem???
Thanks!