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kylefubar
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i understand that this subject has been posted. i figured i would add my suggestions with the California class. i would recommend the ships as a cruiser and a special material that in customization thats cell shaded like the show. i would like to see a bundle with a klingon ship if they show one.
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Yeah, just like the doffs from lower decks.
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Tendi
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Beckett_Mariner
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Brad_Boimler
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Rutherford
Of course, they won't do that with the ships and proper character models, but they still did it with the DOff cards for no coherent reason.
Err, no, fan modders can make characters in different art styles in many games, so if the STO engine isn't too much of a mess, it's still possible to have cel-shading-textured assets, without coding issues.
It's just it'd look way too weird for the game and no serious lead (art) designer would allow that. But then again, those DOff cards.
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Actually, they replaced their original STO-ified version of the Lower Deck doffs with pics of the actual cartoon characters. So while the doffs may not be representative of items in the "actual game world", they actually did change them to look cartoony rather than more realistic.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
However they were updated to look like this:
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Yep, and the simple fact is we have absolutely no idea what the "deal" covers. If CBS wants the doff cards to look like the characters from the show, none of us know what that will mean if/when we actually get some of those characters to appear in actual missions and how CBS will want them to look at that time. We simply have no idea what CBS will tell them to do.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I know that. It was a bad change. My point was simple though, they actually do have the cartoony, cell shaded look for those DOFFs, despite originally making them fit the STO aesthetic, which goes counter to what was stated. There isn't a guarantee they won't do something silly like making cartoon ships (it would be a fun april fools, though) when they already did it for the DOFFs to make them look terribly out of place.
Firstly, you didn't mention any 3d modeling, second, I wouldn't be surprised if DOFF cards were actually all 3d models to start with, given their look. Why do more work than needed creating brand new 2d portraits when you can snap a picture of a 3d model that the game is already setup to do easily?
But none of that is relevant to the simple fact that they already represent the lower decks stuff as exactly as it is in the cartoon as opposed to STOifying it, so saying they wouldn't do that when they actually did doesn't make any sense. They had STOified the characters then tossed that out to give us the cartoon versions of the DOFFs which look horrifically out of place.
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Would have picked them up on the former look...*non-cartoon* But now...unlikely.
same! Until then we made these
https://imgur.com/a/v9me4Hl
available for download here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/stocostumes/comments/hrz9b5/a_note_regarding_costume_requests/
Even in Blender, which is used to make 2D cartoons as well as 3D ones, it takes a special render engine to handle the conversion from 3D look to 2D (or at least it did back when I was using it, no idea if it has changed since). It is unlikely Cryptic would rework their engine just to single out a few ships to render in a cartoonish style while the rest are (reasonably) photo-realistic style.
I like her, so I'll be giving her a gold phaser mk15
She would still win.. she always wins.
Get used to it.
1: California Class - as a playable vessel
2. Bridge Officers from the show
3. Uniforms from lower deck
4. Some of the Aliens from the show
5. That DOG as a pet and combat pet - MUST have that Dog
Be nice to see this in game, as it is actually taking place during the time of TNG
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As much as I sympathize with you, prioritizing current running series isn't as much of a shocker.
But the Nova will probably sit in the dark for a while longer, just like the olympic which is also in dire need of attention
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> The thing about the DOFFs bering cartoony is that those are only images. Not 3D models. Its a lot easier to just superimpose a 2d image into the game than design a 3D cell shaded physical model that clashes with the art style of the rest of the game.
Unless they built a special lighting rig just for those boffs the illusion of them being cartoon would break the moment they were in anything but flat lighting. The model itself isn't really an issue it's the lights that are.