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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 56,058 Community Moderator
    The problem stems from the fact the game was built around two opposing factions. Many things in game are dependant on that faction identifier, such as not being able to go to certain locations because you're Fed or KDF, Ker'rat and Otha being open PvP zones that are dependant on faction, ect. I doubt a Romulan or Jem'Hadar who refuses to pick an ally can participate in TFOs because they aren't flagged as Fed or KDF, and they sure as hell wouldn't be able to go places that require either Fed or KDF indentifiers like Qo'nos or ESD.
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  • mysonne1mysonne1 Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    Careful ... this sounds like some awful spinoff CBS might catch wind of and produce ..
  • sirsitsalotsirsitsalot Member Posts: 2,769 Arc User
    edited September 2020
    mysonne1 wrote: »
    Careful ... this sounds like some awful spinoff CBS might catch wind of and produce ..

    Klingon spy disguised as human (Koloth as a precedence) captures Federation ship and commands it alongside his fellow Klingons. Remainder of Federation crew struggles to survive as prisoners of the Empire. I'd actually watch that.
    "There can be no meeting of the minds between two parties
    if both parties are not willing to meet in the middle."
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,364 Arc User
    mysonne1 wrote: »
    Careful ... this sounds like some awful spinoff CBS might catch wind of and produce ..

    You now owe me a laptop cleaning. 'Cause after I read this, I spit my beer everywhere. Thanks for laugh. Much appreciated. Not nearly enough of laughter and fun around here most days.

    You, Madam/Sir have just been added to my Big List of Good Guys!
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    It's your obsessive-compulsive belief that you are the only 'real' Star Trek fan around here.
  • unotetsuunotetsu Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    mysonne1 wrote: »
    Careful ... this sounds like some awful spinoff CBS might catch wind of and produce ..

    Klingon spy disguised as human (Koloth as a precedence) captures Federation ship and commands it alongside his fellow Klingons. Remainder of Federation crew struggles to survive as prisoners of the Empire. I'd actually watch that.

    Even better they use the augment virus as a cover so nobody questions that they are "klingons"...

    BRILLIANT!!!
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  • sirsitsalotsirsitsalot Member Posts: 2,769 Arc User
    unotetsu wrote: »
    mysonne1 wrote: »
    Careful ... this sounds like some awful spinoff CBS might catch wind of and produce ..

    Klingon spy disguised as human (Koloth as a precedence) captures Federation ship and commands it alongside his fellow Klingons. Remainder of Federation crew struggles to survive as prisoners of the Empire. I'd actually watch that.

    Even better they use the augment virus as a cover so nobody questions that they are "klingons"...

    BRILLIANT!!!

    I could watch a 10-part story arc like that. A series does not have to have multiple seasons to be successful. It just needs a solid story that needs more than meaningfully spans 10 episodes. with a solid beginning, middle and ending. That is one of the beautiful things about delivering content via on-demand streaming. A story can be as long as it needs to be. No time slots to conform to. If an episode needs to be longer than an hour, then there would be no network execs saying it can't.

    "There can be no meeting of the minds between two parties
    if both parties are not willing to meet in the middle."
    -Ambassador Samuel J. Stone
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 4,482 Arc User
    unotetsu wrote: »
    mysonne1 wrote: »
    Careful ... this sounds like some awful spinoff CBS might catch wind of and produce ..

    Klingon spy disguised as human (Koloth as a precedence) captures Federation ship and commands it alongside his fellow Klingons. Remainder of Federation crew struggles to survive as prisoners of the Empire. I'd actually watch that.

    Even better they use the augment virus as a cover so nobody questions that they are "klingons"...

    BRILLIANT!!!

    I could watch a 10-part story arc like that. A series does not have to have multiple seasons to be successful. It just needs a solid story that needs more than meaningfully spans 10 episodes. with a solid beginning, middle and ending. That is one of the beautiful things about delivering content via on-demand streaming. A story can be as long as it needs to be. No time slots to conform to. If an episode needs to be longer than an hour, then there would be no network execs saying it can't.

    Their animated Trek unit might be able to pull that off, but CBS has already tried it with Kurtzman's bunch and it turned out very very dull and predictable (the Voq/Ash Tyler stuff).
  • sirsitsalotsirsitsalot Member Posts: 2,769 Arc User
    unotetsu wrote: »
    mysonne1 wrote: »
    Careful ... this sounds like some awful spinoff CBS might catch wind of and produce ..

    Klingon spy disguised as human (Koloth as a precedence) captures Federation ship and commands it alongside his fellow Klingons. Remainder of Federation crew struggles to survive as prisoners of the Empire. I'd actually watch that.

    Even better they use the augment virus as a cover so nobody questions that they are "klingons"...

    BRILLIANT!!!

    I could watch a 10-part story arc like that. A series does not have to have multiple seasons to be successful. It just needs a solid story that needs more than meaningfully spans 10 episodes. with a solid beginning, middle and ending. That is one of the beautiful things about delivering content via on-demand streaming. A story can be as long as it needs to be. No time slots to conform to. If an episode needs to be longer than an hour, then there would be no network execs saying it can't.

    Their animated Trek unit might be able to pull that off, but CBS has already tried it with Kurtzman's bunch and it turned out very very dull and predictable (the Voq/Ash Tyler stuff).

    Obviously, it needs the right people writing the stories. And the right premise behind those stories...

    Personally, if I got to be a Star Trek show-runner, I would insist on a CG series using Unreal Engine 5 as the framework. Ultra-high definition environments with which to build virtual sets that can be as big as they need to, which would alllow for environments that would be bigger than any sound stage in the world could allow. An entire starship with all decks and crawl spaces could be constructed. And with cameras not having to be bulky pieces of equipment on rigs that can only fit and go in limited places, camera angles that would be impossible in the real world could be achieved.

    This hypothetical series would span all known the Star Trek universe. Made possible by being able to use as many virtual sets as needed on whatever world is needed.

    One thing that I think they got right with Discovery was Michael Burnham... The character of focus. The show has followed her, wherever she's gone. Lower Decks got it right too by making the character focus on the low ranked officers. I would make the main character of focus an ensign on his first assignment. The series would be an ensemble crew like TNG and deep space nine, except rather than the captain's log, we would be hearing the personal log of the ensign. When the stories start getting a little stale, he gets promoted to Lieutenant JG and is transferred to a new post. the captain gets promoted it Admiral, and with a new CO would come new faces as part of the bridge crew as some of the other officers also transfer to new assignments.

    This would be where the show's scope would begin to broaden and branch. We'd never be done with familiar characters. But instead of one of their scenes taking place in some other room on the same ship, it would take place at an entirely different posting. Like how DS( bounced back and forth from Starfleet Command to the Defiant to the station during the dominion occupation.

    So many possibilities open up when you don't have to worry about square footage available for set building.

    What would I call the series?
    STAR TREK
    The Great Journey

    Anyway... that's what I would do.

    And you know, STO's forward-going writing can be handled the same way.

    Over the past 10 years, they've built and expanded the universe in which we play. A seasons of episodes can move us throughout several different locations. I'd start by setting some storylines in places that have seen the least player foot traffic over the last year. Make older places relevant again. The sets, the props and the cvostumes are all there. And we are the actors... This could be OUR show... So to speak.

    And if I am right about the nature of Faction0 in comparative terms with Faction1 and Faction2, and what might be possible if there were more focus on Faction0 content, there really isn't anything plot-wise that cannot be done.
    "There can be no meeting of the minds between two parties
    if both parties are not willing to meet in the middle."
    -Ambassador Samuel J. Stone
  • dragonturtletimmydragonturtletimmy Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    Characters in the 23rd Century AOY and Discovery starter eras used to be able to participate in TFOs and events ques. Access to events and TFOs were removed from characters still in the 23rd century to force them into the 25th century, if they want to do TFOs and event ques. Sorry don't remember when the changes were made.
  • trillbuffettrillbuffet Member Posts: 861 Arc User
    Basically all the changes to this game since our current EP took over looks like a gradual transition to having just one faction at max level. Which hopefully is the case because I mean this tutorial stuff there is a great purpose for it but also it hinders someone who has been fighting for 10 years in the span of two years against every single enemy combatant in the alpha, beta, gamma, and delta quadrant plus the iconians, mirror universe, and temporal cold war lol. So at this point its like okay Vice Admiral or Dahar Master can you demonstrate how to fix a food replicator or how to pick up a bat'leth?

    As for temporal refugees when you took Daniels extended hand you then accepted everything that comes with it. So you get out there and you fix that food replicator and pick up that bat'leth and chop at that klingon escape pod until it starts working if you can find one.
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