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theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,481 Arc User
I preferred the look they had at release. I mean yeah, now they look exactly like out of the show. But before it was a nice blend; they looked unique yet recognizable, but still kind of blended in with the rest of the game. At least on first glance; when you looked right at them you saw they where something special.

Besides their IMO better stylistic/artistic fit for the game they looked like some effort was put into them while now it looks a bit like a cheap copy/paste.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    enh... I get why the change happened though. It's a cross-promotion, so it looks like the thing being promoted.
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  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,154 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    Tendi seemed like the only good looking one when they first came out, the rest were terrifying looking monsters that needed to be purged with fire, they didn't look good in 3D, I think their new redesign is way easier on the eyes, but a middle ground look would be preferable for most people, you know a design that's not too cartoony or too realistic but somewhere inbetween the two.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,650 Arc User
    The new look obviously liiks like the show, yet it is a pretty strong breach of style. It looks like a mod for the base game, honestly pig-2.gif

    I understand why and I'm not too bothered by it, but it doesn't really harmonize with the rest of the aesthetics.​​
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  • voodoopokeyvoodoopokey Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    They match the actual show they're promoting which is really the way to go. People who are offended by the style choice can always delete those doffs and never worry about it again, which is a bonus to those who take issue with the choices CBS makes but don't have the option to avoid Discovery content.
  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,291 Arc User
    They match the actual show they're promoting which is really the way to go.

    Yeah, pretty much. On release, the portraits looked more like placeholders to me.
  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 823 Arc User
  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    The Duty Officer cards are just...cards. Makes sense they look accurate to their canon source material. What's nice is that a player can always recreate their own versions as Boffs. Created with your own interpretation of what they might look like as STO characters.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 9,551 Arc User
    People are going to complain either way, so matching canon seems the better choice.
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,680 Arc User
    I agree with dave. People gonna complain no matter what the devs do or don't do.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,334 Arc User
    I LIKE the change.
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  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,702 Arc User
    I haven't looked since initial release & claiming, I mean they're DOFFs, if they were BOFFs I could understand an interest since there's more visual but the only time I spend looking at DOFF portraits is when I'm searching for a particular one, if that.
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 3,813 Arc User
    I actually like the change a lot. I didn't care for the '3D engine' portraits. They're not NPCs in this game - they're Doff cards.
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  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,481 Arc User
    They match the actual show they're promoting which is really the way to go. People who are offended by the style choice can always delete those doffs and never worry about it again, which is a bonus to those who take issue with the choices CBS makes but don't have the option to avoid Discovery content.

    Heh :D

    Its merely odd to have a bunch of toons turning the doof rooster into Cool World; it take a bit more to get me offended.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,102 Arc User
    edited August 2020
    Sorry, say what again???... i don't see the problem, but hey... first world problems everywhere, i guess.. :lol:
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  • starshine#7408 starshine Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    I like both, but I think the first ones more? but maybe just because they came first
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  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,481 Arc User
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Sorry, say what again???... i don't see the problem, but hey... first world problems everywhere, i guess.. :lol:

    Well, what else is left? Discussing serious world problems will inevitably lead to politics or maybe religion and then ppl get angry, ppl get hurt, shouting at each other mods gets called accounts get banned :#

    Nono, this is a first world problem forum. :)
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,650 Arc User
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Sorry, say what again???... i don't see the problem, but hey... first world problems everywhere, i guess.. :lol:

    Well, what else is left? Discussing serious world problems will inevitably lead to politics or maybe religion and then ppl get angry, ppl get hurt, shouting at each other mods gets called accounts get banned :#

    Nono, this is a first world problem forum. :)

    I was just about to say that - this is a forum about a online game. The mere existence of which is a 'first world problem' - every single one of us does contribute nothing worthwhile to society while being here pig-24.gif​​
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  • sadrielfettsadrielfett Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    Agree with the OP. I think they looked better when they fit the aesthetic of the game.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    I preferred the original release version too since they fit the game better and the doffs were perfectly recognizable as the LD characters done in STO style, kind of a best of both worlds.

    I don't think it is a big deal either way though and each has advantages and disadvantages. For instance it is easier to keep them out of potentially fatal doff missions since they are so glaringly out of place now which is a slight advantage, but it is a slight annoyance since it breaks the immersion a bit.

    Ironically, that ease of picking them out from the pack makes it easier to pay less attention to the show they came from because of not having to remember the names or exact looks so it actually makes for less of a promo for the show than having to pay more attention while doffing would.
  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 3,532 Arc User
    i like the updated ones.
    not sure i understand the whole reason though, for the like or dislike.
    they are cards. not like you see them in front of you while playing the game.
    i mean, heck, ive never seen a cartoon doff run up to me and ask where sick bay was...or anything else.

    aside from what was said about being able to pick them out easier for fatal concerns, i dont see anything else that makes the visual a factor.
    meh

  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 54,818 Community Moderator
    I think fatal only applies to white quality though...
    I preferred the original release version too since they fit the game better and the doffs were perfectly recognizable as the LD characters done in STO style, kind of a best of both worlds.

    Yea. I have to agree on this point. It actually looked like they put some effort into rendering them in STO style. Now... it feels more like a cheep 2 second photoshop.
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 3,813 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I think fatal only applies to white quality though...
    I preferred the original release version too since they fit the game better and the doffs were perfectly recognizable as the LD characters done in STO style, kind of a best of both worlds.

    Yea. I have to agree on this point. It actually looked like they put some effort into rendering them in STO style. Now... it feels more like a cheep 2 second photoshop.

    Nothing 'cheap' about it as they probably had to pay for the rights to use the images of said characters. ;)
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  • jamieblanchardjamieblanchard Member Posts: 542 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I think fatal only applies to white quality though...
    I preferred the original release version too since they fit the game better and the doffs were perfectly recognizable as the LD characters done in STO style, kind of a best of both worlds.

    Yea. I have to agree on this point. It actually looked like they put some effort into rendering them in STO style. Now... it feels more like a cheep 2 second photoshop.

    What they said. I prefer the original myself. Even so, I do understand the reasoning for the change.
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  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 3,223 Arc User
    Someone on another thread said they look animated now.
    1. They are animated. It is a cartoon
    2. Everything in STO is animated, these DOFFS just a lil bit more so.

    Regardless of any of that. Does it really matter what they look like. The originals were brought out BEFORE the series started, so maybe Cryptic didn't have the rights to use the series likeness at that time.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 54,818 Community Moderator
    Likeness? They looked like the characters as they may have appeared in STO's more realistic asthetic rather than the cartoon look of the show. They even had the proper LD uniforms. Hell... even the guy with the cyborg parts had the proper cyborg parts. Now it just looks like they took the promotional art for LD, trimmed out the characters, and put them in a DOff frame. With enough time and effort I could do that in GIMP (especially since I have to use control points in GIMP to extract things accurately without any background, and that is one massive PITA with the sheer number of clicks I have to do). What I can't do, is the portraits from the initial release, which matched STO's asthetic.
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    Originals were better and fit the game. Now they just look terribly out of place. I guess the question now is whether the California class we eventually get will fit the aesthetics of the game or the show?
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