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spork87
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Curious if anyone has heard any status update on these classics, that where promised to return but are still missing.
State of Q
City on the Edge of Never
Past Imperfect
Are these ever returning, did the Devs just decide meh and move on?
State of Q
City on the Edge of Never
Past Imperfect
Are these ever returning, did the Devs just decide meh and move on?
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Honestly they need to get at least the guardian of forever back in the game, they could put them back as they where for all I care. I just don't understand what reason or logic there was in removing these missions, if they can't get around to actually revamping them just put them back as is, right now the klingon story arc is to short and has no impact of any kind like it used to. Maybe they could work on that while doing their year of the klingons, though why they are giving klingon's a year of attention confuses me, they are played by what 5% of the playerbase didn't we all abandon that idea years ago.
I'd agree on some of the removed, but the city on the edge of never and past imperfect are fan favorites, and have Nimoy's excellent voice acting. I'd rate them as in the top 10 of all missions Cryptic has ever designed.
I could care less about Treasure Trading Station or the Kuvama, just those two missions, and while they are at it they could ditch the doomsday machine mission that dates to the early days, i skip it every playthrough, did it once in 2010 and never again.
Probably true. Now, we may be pleasantly surprised one day, and that would be great. But people definitely shouldn't be expecting this to happen.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
... I can't believe I typed it with a straight face; its Cryptic we are talking about
Have they fixed the bugs in the Starfleet tutorial yet? The last time I played through the tutorial the dialog would reference the Renown instead of the Chimera and the recorded voice for the original Vulcan Captain would play while showing Captain Nog.
Having things like that in a tutorial would make me wonder about the quality of a game if I was a new player.
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I just played through the tutorial. At the final portion of Vega Colony The original voice audio plays over Nog and Nog's ship is listed as the U.S.S. Renown.
I understand why they do it: New players. Poorly-designed episodes can drive them away.
However, there's no need to remove them completely. They could be moved to a special "Legends" or "Archives" or "Play At Your Own Risk, You've Been Warned!" section.
Well these are missions a lot of us broke our teeth on many years ago and we still played despite that, so I'm not really sure I buy that. Still I'd take that compromise of moving them out of the main line of missions like the original patrol missions. As far as I'm aware they are all still there, but you're not directed to them any more, you just find them. And I still miss the exploration clusters because there was quick, simple action in them, not to mention the interesting planetary environments.
Of course the existing missions can be buggy and messy as it is already. I played through the Disco origin recently and holy Iconians was that buggy. I don't know how long the bugs were there or whether they have been fixed since, but we are talking inexplicably being unable to use energy weapons in space, only torpedoes. That's going to scare off more people than some dull kill 5/scan 5 missions. And I know the Azura mission is still buggy where science captains can't revive the crew.
Yes, but those are chiefly the old featured episode chains, and Nimbus.
Of course it isn't an argument. I was rejecting the premise with the simple fact that we played this missions and liked them when the game came out, enough to stick around for 10+ years in some cases. And yes, we still want to play them.
And no bugs aren't the same as poor design, they are unquestionably worse. Bugs stop you from completing content or require sometimes ridiculous workarounds. Temporal Reckoning was bugged for a long time where the ISS Enterprise would zoom around the map at speeds impossible to catch up to, but you had to beat it into submission to complete the mission. And if you're worried about new players, what are they supposed to think of the game when one of the earliest missions they do, they can't even complete the side objectives?
Bad design just means it could use improvement. Where is the bad design team when you need them for all the unskippable cutscenes in so many missions? Why aren't those removed for fixing? How about Kobali prime's awful design with the insane aggro distance of Vaudwaar and their ability to respawn before you can possibly complete the objectives for some of those areas? How about the Azure Nebula Rescue's awful design issues?
There's a lot of stuff with awful design in this game. I'd love to see it improved! But I don't want it removed until that point that the improved version is better. The only time it ever makes sense to remove something is when its so buggy it isn't playable.
In many business practices something doesn't get removed until its replacement is actually, you know, ready to replace it ... if that is the true intention after all to skip having a void.
Playable content > than pretty words, hype, & promises
They'll be back when the Foundry, Exploration, and the Calendar returns.
arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
Utterly nonsensical. No one is forcing anyone to play bad missions they don't want to play. The existence of the GoF mission doesn't compel you to play it if you think its bad.
You're completely wrong on unskippable cutscenes as there are many where literally nothing moves, and skippable ones where things do move. You apparently have your own special version of Kobali prime that is different from everyone else. And as for Azure nebula rescue, it has nothing at all to do with working together or not, as it is entirely possible to get nothing but T'liss after T'liss, because it is badly designed. I also said nothing about Procyon V so why create a strawman?
Finally, suggesting we should have nothing and like it is positively absurd, in no small part because you wildly overstate how bad the missions were, and ignore the fact that people still liked them. Again, it doesn't matter if you don't like it, you aren't forced to play it.
If you're talking about the old FE series where we meet Loriss for the first time... it wasn't removed. Just moved to the "Available" tab and is not part of the main story anymore. Same with the rest of the FE series like the Breen and Dividian arcs.
Bugs can interfere with the completion of a mission. This can be especially frustrating for newer players. It can make for a miserable experience.
Spock's voice and the Guardian of Forever were two very unique Star Trek experiences that STO used to provide and were important and enjoyable to me at least.
I guess tastes will vary.