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  • duasynduasyn Member Posts: 490 Arc User
    I really liked the visual of the super torpedo spread. Sadly it didn't do as much damage as it looked like it should have. :(
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,481 Arc User
    That buy 2 get 1 free went out the window almost two years ago when they started releasing 2-packs for 4,000 Zen almost exclusively. Theoretically, 3 2-packs for 12,000 would get you 6 ships as would 2 of the old 3-pack Cross-faction Ship Bundles. But, before you could also get that 9-pack Ship Bundle for the same 12,000 Zen.

    Another difference, these 2-packs would also require a Fleet Ship Module for each ship to bring them up to the Fleet Level Quality of the Ships in the 9-pack.
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  • capbruno83capbruno83 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    I would just like to see a Norway Class nothing wrong with that
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    capbruno83 wrote: »
    I would like to see a Norway Class

    I would like to see something not federation...not just next...for a while. Unless it's a T6 Nova.

    That'll be the day.
  • terranempire#7881 terranempire Member Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    I already knew about the KDF bop update they're working on. Where are you getting the other information from?
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  • terranempire#7881 terranempire Member Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    Nice. It's good to see KDF is getting some more focus on. I thought it was just ship model updates. Maybe there is even the small chance of player characters getting the hair models of Kurn, Worf, Martok and Grilka.
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    capbruno83 wrote: »
    I would like to see a Norway Class

    I would like to see something not federation...not just next...for a while. Unless it's a T6 Nova.

    That'll be the day.

    As much as I may rag on the fed ship request, I truly am rooting for ya with your ship...and other fans of that ship. Seriously was surprised we got a T6 vorcha before it.

    After six years of waiting, and watching some ships get TWO quality passes, I refuse to get my hopes up.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 7,823 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    "There are a lot of ships in the galaxy that have multiple tiers available, and we want to make it easier to get your hands on every version of your favorite starships"

    Anyone want to speculate on what might be next?

    I don't suppose we'll get lucky with a Nova?

    As for the pack, got the lot already so it's not for me. Would be interesting if they updated the consoles at the same time.
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  • edrickvellorinedrickvellorin Member Posts: 345 Arc User
    duasyn wrote: »
    I find it interesting that they remove low tier ships from the C-store, but still put them in a bundle in the C-store. I assume they are the 'old' account wide unlocks?

    So $60. I guess 30/25/4/1* values assigned. Doesn't seem like much of a deal like we get from other 'buy 2 get 1 free' ship bundles. Basically you get 1 ship and 2 extra skins for $60. I'd have said $40. Which is real close to their discounted price for the intro.

    *Yeah, I don't count the FSM worth much anymore since you can get plenty of free ones from reps. You gonna upgrade the T5 to T5U when you got a full T6 in the bundle? Just feels like a cheap 'value add' that isn't really since, I assume, only 1 character gets it anyway.

    There are still ways to buy some lower tier ships through the zen store, just not individually. The FSM of course is so you can get the fleet version of the ship. And while the skins are nice, there are also the consoles. If I didn't already have the full set, I would buy that pack when it came out. Will be interesting to see what other packs they release.

    I do think it would be nice to get T6 versions of ships that don't have a T6 though. And not just on the Fed side, the KDF Ning'tao BoP is one of the more interesting, and unique, KDF designs. But it and the Norgh are just T3 ships with no higher tier versions, even though the Ning'tao seems to be the KDF equivalent of the T4 Sao Paulo Defiant variant based on the Quad Cannons they have. The Romulan Quad Cannon ship is the Ar'kala which is T4 with higher tier versions.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
    questerius wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    "There are a lot of ships in the galaxy that have multiple tiers available, and we want to make it easier to get your hands on every version of your favorite starships"

    Anyone want to speculate on what might be next?

    I don't suppose we'll get lucky with a Nova?
    .

    Again, I refuse to get my hopes up. The result of six years of disappointment with regard to this.
  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,914 Arc User
    mark#1633 wrote: »
    I'd imagine for the Feds, Nebula class next as they could probably just re-use the Galaxy skin for it? (No, i'ts not currently an option in the ship tailor). No doubt Prometheus and Ambassador to follow?

    KDF will get the B'Rel update soon, any news on a Romulan update - maybe the D'deridex?

    Edit: Very pleased to see the QOL improvements coming into the game though.

    They are probably going to bring out updates for Romulan ships when they bring out the updated Romulan Faction tutorial, which may be part of the actual content coming from ST: Picard Season 1.
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,412 Arc User
    Will also believe the non-fed content or updates when I see it, in game, ready to buy. Not before.
    I do think it would be nice to get T6 versions of ships that don't have a T6 though. And not just on the Fed side, the KDF Ning'tao BoP is one of the more interesting, and unique, KDF designs. But it and the Norgh are just T3 ships with no higher tier versions, even though the Ning'tao seems to be the KDF equivalent of the T4 Sao Paulo Defiant variant based on the Quad Cannons they have. The Romulan Quad Cannon ship is the Ar'kala which is T4 with higher tier versions.
    Agreed about seeing something, anything, non-Fed, but at this point it's throw a dog a bone and be happy that's all you'll ever get for months.

    A T5-FU Ning-tao exists, but at the cost of 1,000 zen for the T3 Ning'tao, 4 fleet ship modules for the T5F Fleet Norgh Bird-of-Prey Retrofit, an upgrade module, 1 fleet military provision, and an upgrade token.

    The resulting ship is a vastly inferior BoP to the 2 other in the C-Store T6/F, or the D4x. As much as I like the Ning'tao skin, and other BoP, I lost hope in them ever making them on par with other end-game ships, and gave up on that old KDF content. To any Feds going "but TierX is perfectly viable, this game is easy..." is both a flawed argument from a number of angles and completely irrelevant to the point being made.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    ltminns wrote: »
    That buy 2 get 1 free went out the window almost two years ago when they started releasing 2-packs for 4,000 Zen almost exclusively. Theoretically, 3 2-packs for 12,000 would get you 6 ships as would 2 of the old 3-pack Cross-faction Ship Bundles. But, before you could also get that 9-pack Ship Bundle for the same 12,000 Zen.

    Another difference, these 2-packs would also require a Fleet Ship Module for each ship to bring them up to the Fleet Level Quality of the Ships in the 9-pack.

    Yeah, that's true, but now we have access to 12? fleet modules for "free" in the tier 6 reputation, no? so, not that terribl as before..
    Will also believe the non-fed content or updates when I see it, in game, ready to buy. Not before.
    I do think it would be nice to get T6 versions of ships that don't have a T6 though. And not just on the Fed side, the KDF Ning'tao BoP is one of the more interesting, and unique, KDF designs. But it and the Norgh are just T3 ships with no higher tier versions, even though the Ning'tao seems to be the KDF equivalent of the T4 Sao Paulo Defiant variant based on the Quad Cannons they have. The Romulan Quad Cannon ship is the Ar'kala which is T4 with higher tier versions.
    Agreed about seeing something, anything, non-Fed, but at this point it's throw a dog a bone and be happy that's all you'll ever get for months.

    A T5-FU Ning-tao exists, but at the cost of 1,000 zen for the T3 Ning'tao, 4 fleet ship modules for the T5F Fleet Norgh Bird-of-Prey Retrofit, an upgrade module, 1 fleet military provision, and an upgrade token.

    The resulting ship is a vastly inferior BoP to the 2 other in the C-Store T6/F, or the D4x. As much as I like the Ning'tao skin, and other BoP, I lost hope in them ever making them on par with other end-game ships, and gave up on that old KDF content. To any Feds going "but TierX is perfectly viable, this game is easy..." is both a flawed argument from a number of angles and completely irrelevant to the point being made.

    God!, i love the Ning'Tao, wish they cound release that ship in a T6 bundle with the Tempest, and Romulan and Jemmy equivalents!
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  • piroteuspiroteus Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    60$ for one Ship and two skins that is a very hard pass. Please no one even try to answer with the but the discounts argument. I know the game has allways had a small player base and that they must make continued money but there is a limit. Especialy the one time only bonuses like the fleet modules it can't be that hard to allow update of the ships wihtouth modules if bunde was bought. After all the Zen price also disapears after you bought it once.
  • jivedutchjivedutch Member Posts: 350 Arc User
    Already own ships ...
    There used to be bundles which were cheaper to get if you already owned some of the content ... Will only get this one ( as a ship collector ) if this is taken into account ...
  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 408 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    "There are a lot of ships in the galaxy that have multiple tiers available, and we want to make it easier to get your hands on every version of your favorite starships"

    Anyone want to speculate on what might be next?

    I don't suppose we'll get lucky with a Nova?
    .

    Again, I refuse to get my hopes up. The result of six years of disappointment with regard to this.

    They'll do a Nova bundle with a T6 Nova, but the T6 will not be sold separately and because you already own the T2 retrofit you won't be able to buy the bundle. You will have gone from Sisyphus, ever pushing the boulder of the T6 Nova up hill, to Tantalus, your goal visible but always out of reach.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
    lnblade wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    "There are a lot of ships in the galaxy that have multiple tiers available, and we want to make it easier to get your hands on every version of your favorite starships"

    Anyone want to speculate on what might be next?

    I don't suppose we'll get lucky with a Nova?
    .

    Again, I refuse to get my hopes up. The result of six years of disappointment with regard to this.

    They'll do a Nova bundle with a T6 Nova, but the T6 will not be sold separately and because you already own the T2 retrofit you won't be able to buy the bundle. You will have gone from Sisyphus, ever pushing the boulder of the T6 Nova up hill, to Tantalus, your goal visible but always out of reach.

    No they won't. They'll never find the right time to remodel the Nova
  • misanthrope#6636 misanthrope Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    On a completely unrelated idea from what everybody else is saying in this thread, I just wanted to look at this from a "wording" point of view. STO is calling the Akira a ship of the line yet that is incorrect, if you've played games like the old POTCO game or the fan remake TLOPO and even if you look on wiki at the definition of ship of the line you'll see that "ship of the line" refers to massive ships with lots of firepower. Sure escorts have the firepower but they're tiny ships therefore they CANNOT be called ships of the line. Dreadnoughts are ships of the line if anything, maybe cruisers, but certainly not escorts.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,845 Arc User
    The Akira is a cruiser. It's just an escort in gameplay terms. Starfleet doesn't really have so many small ships, even Nova and Intrepid are sorts of cruisers.
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  • jagdtier44jagdtier44 Member Posts: 361 Arc User
    mmmm big ol starfleet bundle followed by more starfleet ships, fleety fleet of fleet fleetness fleety fleet?
  • ishigami2ishigami2 Member Posts: 138 Arc User
    I won’t buy the pack as I already own the T6 which is the only interesting one really.
    However let me just thank Cryptic for the free update.
    New model looks nice, new martial looks awesome.

    As for the next ship… I would assume they first go with ships canon to the TNG era and Starfleet for which they have the new materials ready from the Legendary ships.
    So I guess it will be one of those: Nebula, New-Orleans, Prometheus, Nova, Saber.

    I would assume that the aliens come later as they need more work and their own set of materials. But I may be wrong.
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,392 Arc User
    Or they could do the Klingon Bird of Prey.

    What am I thinking? Only Fed exist in this game........

    Salt aside, would be good if they do a similar Bundle for the Klingons and Roms with the BoP and maybe the D'deridex

    I think B'rel and Vor'cha are candidates, for rom, T'liss. fed, Excelsior maybe? Daedalus/pasteur maybe.
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,392 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    However, this isn't new, so I'm a little confused by them calling it a new idea. They've already given us a Galaxy and Intrepid bundle. There is a defacto Malem bundle by buying Rom starter packs. I'm not against them bundling ships together like this, but they started this a long time ago, and it offers nothing to someone who already owns these ships.

    I think its geared more towards people who don't have it than people who do. On the bright side, EVERYONE gets access to the updated Akira model, and if you already own said ships in this bundle, you can use the updated model.

    I'd consider the bundle, if not for the fact the ONLY ship I'm missing is the T5 Armitage. Either I'm locked out of the bundle or would be cheeper to just get the Armitage seperate anyways.
    Either way doesn't bother me in the least.

    me too I don't have the T-5 version. only reason I got the armitage was to play around with the photon PDS
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  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,143 Arc User
    years past i flew this ship and enjoyed it. i didnt think the appearance was bad either. that said, i really like the new look better. not sure why, but it lends to my AoY and original series preferences as a whole.
    as for the set and price. not a bargain in my opinion, but thats just it. others, however, may find it alluring and a steal.

    why cant they just offer skin updates as a separate option? why cant you just skin your ship as a whole in general?

    be fun to see an old sci ship outfitted as a MW class sci. fun to see how well PVP would change if you couldnt really tell if it was a baseline sci ship or the possibility of it being the MW class....but i know that will never happen.
  • oclosoclos Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    Temporal Ships do seem like they'd benefit from upgrades, both visual and traits/specs/abilities. It would be an opportunity to improve them and maybe get something out of it(I think they're not the biggest sellers so far). Especially since it looks like Tobias Richter might be doing those textures, and he's a very potent and knowledgeable person on Trek(I gotten to know his work through fan based projects he worked for, e.g. most Project Axanar 3d is his work for instance, remember how detailed and accurate they were?). Though it didn't have a T5 counterpart to my knowledge, Universe class needs both an upgrade and a variant too so that it might actually be worth/usable. I dislike the notion that an Enterprise named ship doesn't live up to its high standards given it was still the flagship(and they wouldn't use any class as the flagship, it has to be top-5 ability of what they have at the time it is made the flagship).
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