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Probably been asked before so apologies, if it has can you please direct me to that thread?
Does anyone know what the next playable race will be?

What is the chance we'll see an independent faction that is not going to choose between the federation and KDF?
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Who knows to the first. Not likely at all for Independent. That ship sailed with Legacy of Romulus.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,969 Community Moderator
    We're not gonna see an Independant. The story won't allow for it. They'd have to basicaly double the amount of story missions because Independant isn't going to be playing ball with Fed or KDF so they'd need their own unique story all the way through EVERYTHING.
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 5,403 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    No more factions until they can support those we already have!
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  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,259 Arc User
    If there is it will be borg cooperative, and I vomit at the thought of that
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  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 519 Arc User
    Does anyone know what the next playable race will be?

    No idea.
    What is the chance we'll see an independent faction that is not going to choose between the federation and KDF?

    Never.
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  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 519 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    That really only leaves the Borg Cooperative, which is something Cryptic has repeatedly said they want to do, they just haven't had the time/story for it.

    Plus the fact that liberated Borg are a staple for lifers. You know how many Talaxian characters I have seen in this game? Zip. My attempts to make one typically last the time it takes to walk to the Academy commandant's office. I see plenty of liberateds, though - I myself have three, human, Klingon, and Romulan.
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  • section31agent#8506 section31agent Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    Perhaps in the future not anytime soon we might see a civilian merchant guild. FCA comes to mind with farming missions and or smuggling operations.
  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    arnthebard wrote: »
    Perhaps in the future not anytime soon we might see a civilian merchant guild. FCA comes to mind with farming missions and or smuggling operations.
    And how would this work with the ENTIRE rest of the game?

    Why would the FCA be on the front lines during the Iconian War?

    Mercenaries that were hired to protect their businesses and profits? Breen come to mind as the #1 Mercenary they'd use.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    Probably been asked before so apologies, if it has can you please direct me to that thread?
    Does anyone know what the next playable race will be?
    Nobody here knows about any unreleased/unconfirmed content. That said, my preference would be to incorporate playable Suliban species into the impeding Romulan revamp.
    What is the chance we'll see an independent faction that is not going to choose between the federation and KDF?
    0% chance.
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  • grendelthewise#0990 grendelthewise Member Posts: 640 Arc User
    I would like to see a new playable race of androids.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Then we'd just have to ban them. ;)
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  • claudiusdkclaudiusdk Member Posts: 561 Arc User
    Well, following the trend of expansions based on shows, proberly some races related to the Picard series... so... Androids?
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    A Borg Cooperative faction will likely just be a new tutorial with new costumes, new C-Store ships, and some new animations just like the Jem'Hadar faction which will have all of the C-Store items be available through the Borg Cooperative Bundle for $120. There is also the possibility that since we had the Borg Lockbox with a Borg ship, Borg outfit, a few Borg abilities, and an actual Borg prosthetic weapon, then there is absolutely no need for the Borg Cooperative faction anymore.
  • atlantis#9395 atlantis Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    just one of many borg ships, so yea we'll be getting more on that side, also there is a wide array of borg outfits out there that are in the game, just 1 is available for use atm so.. Borg Coop FTW!
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    Frankly I doubt that we will see either one. Sure, there has been talk of a playable Borg cooperative which would answer both the race and the faction questions but there is the problem that some the lifers would probably feel cheated that the FtPs would be able to poach their exclusive access to Borg.

    Personally I would prefer that they finish off the Dominion faction by adding Vorta and 'alien' (or even just 'alien' since Vorta can be made that way) to the generator and starting those two off at the normal level (as meat droids the Jem'Hadar actually make sense as the "gee wiz" endgame only novelty race).

    The problem with making the Dominion more than a single-race unlock is that they would have to do an introductory scenario probably, and the devs seem to be avoiding going back to DS9 and the other older Treks lately.

    There is also the odd tendency to take Weyoun's propaganda at face value instead of watching what he actually did and listening to the talk of the show's writers about them being the James Bonds/Ethan Hunts/Emma Peals of Star Trek. Of course, with Section 31 being such a big thing in the new Treks there may be pressure to keep Cryptic from doing anything with Intelligence type characters until the series debuts.
  • tasshenatasshena Member Posts: 525 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    If you just mean race rather than faction, I'd rather hope that we could have Aenar captains sometime soon Fedside, rather than just boffs. They did it for Caitians/Ferasans, they should be able to do it for Aenars as well. Sad they haven't yet, considering how long the Aenar boffs have been available.
  • section31agent#8506 section31agent Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    > @somtaawkhar said:
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    > And how would this work with the ENTIRE rest of the game?
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    > Why would the FCA be on the front lines during the Iconian War?

    Let's see you have the Orion Syndicate, the Ferengi Commerce Authority, the Maquis, all know that war is profitable, very profitable

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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    and the devs seem to be avoiding going back to DS9 and the other older Treks lately.
    Yes, because the Elachi, Seven of Nine, Excalbians, and Zefram Cochrane, exist solely in the new shows.

    Elachi are mushrooms, which ties in with DSC fungus, Seven of Nine is in the new shows (PIC). As for the Excalibans and Cochrane, it is anniversary season so it is not surprising they would have a little nostalgic content quickly forgotten to go back to the current stuff. Anyway, that quoted line is a tangent but not meant to derail this thread so I will leave it at that.

  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    arnthebard wrote: »
    > @somtaawkhar said:
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    > And how would this work with the ENTIRE rest of the game?
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    > Why would the FCA be on the front lines during the Iconian War?

    Let's see you have the Orion Syndicate, the Ferengi Commerce Authority, the Maquis, all know that war is profitable, very profitable

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    The Maquis are a motely crew. They'd be a mix of other races we have now. Plus they were all but wiped out in the 2370's. I mean I could see them popping up as a problem, given the One Galactic Government, The Federation, and the multifactional lapdog allies are a thing now. Something that the surviving Maquis and their descendants would likely despise with every fiber of their being.
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  • section31agent#8506 section31agent Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    > @trennan said:
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    > The Maquis are a motely crew. They'd be a mix of other races we have now. Plus they were all but wiped out in the 2370's. I mean I could see them popping up as a problem, given the One Galactic Government, The Federation, and the multifactional lapdog allies are a thing now. Something that the surviving Maquis and their descendants would likely despise with every fiber of their being.

    Yes, but understand the broader implications. There are various factions that fall into the Piracy label and another that fall under Privateer label. As indicated in Enterprise there are Boomers out there. Not everyone is Starfleet or Klingon or Romulan faction. From the economic perspective this is the way that business is handled Smuggle or Trade. The ships would be mostly freighter types or some would be raiders. While others simply may be alien design with weapons and consoles not yet in the game. Point is everything doesn't have to be a military faction. An economic faction doesn't interfere with the military faction, in fact it helps to give it a reason for existence. It also would be a nice source for Section 31 missions alongside Tal-Shiar and Klingon equivalents. It is a good way to expand the game without worrying about creating discord. Besides it gives players new opportunities to farm equipment or dilithium or EC. The civilian part has been in Star Trek since the get go. It's time STO gave it serious consideration.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    The Maquis don't make any sense as a playable faction. All of their potential races are already playable. The only canon Maquis ship is already available in game. All non FED/KDF fractions have to choose to ally with FED or KDF. In what world would the Maquis "choose" to ally with the Federation? Allying with the Klingons makes no sense either. The Cardassians are also dependent on and allied to both powers now so the Maquis have no reason to exist.

    If you want my advice, roll a KDF alien and create a full alien crew that looks like Humans and Vulcans. Buy a Maquis Raider off the exchange and head canon yourself as fighting against the FEDs. This also has the additional benefit of having access to CHEAP DPRM console and SAD trait.
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  • trekkiejedigirl#9564 trekkiejedigirl Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    Well, right now I can't play at all because my Radeon card's fan took a @#%$ and my roomie gave me this nVida GeForce card out of an Alienware PC to use and as predicted it isn't playing well with my AMD CPU (very sad face) :'( Support is hard at work on the issue for me tho, but enough on that and back on topic:

    I have to agree with the many others here who have pointed out that the Borg Cooperative is probably the only playable race well prolly see for the forseeable future. However with what has been coming out in the new shows the pressure might come about for something new but if it does it will be a long way off before we see it in game. And, as a Lifer myself I wouldn't mind it, I mean, just saying. Whatever keeps the community happy ya know? I myself tho I do have access to them do not as of yet have any Borg characters on any of my bridges (and I have a lot of Captains in Various factions...Mostly Romulans tho.) But who knows, I just got 2 chartacter slots just because I love the stories so much I want to play through the Romulan, Fed, and Klingon again from beginning to end This Anniversary season especially now that I have that new Klingon/Fed ship to fly.

    That is, if I can get this darn GeForce card to play nice!!, lol. o:)
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    Well, right now I can't play at all because my Radeon card's fan took a @#%$ and my roomie gave me this nVida GeForce card out of an Alienware PC to use and as predicted it isn't playing well with my AMD CPU (very sad face) :'( Support is hard at work on the issue for me tho, but enough on that and back on topic:

    I have to agree with the many others here who have pointed out that the Borg Cooperative is probably the only playable race well prolly see for the forseeable future. However with what has been coming out in the new shows the pressure might come about for something new but if it does it will be a long way off before we see it in game. And, as a Lifer myself I wouldn't mind it, I mean, just saying. Whatever keeps the community happy ya know? I myself tho I do have access to them do not as of yet have any Borg characters on any of my bridges (and I have a lot of Captains in Various factions...Mostly Romulans tho.) But who knows, I just got 2 chartacter slots just because I love the stories so much I want to play through the Romulan, Fed, and Klingon again from beginning to end This Anniversary season especially now that I have that new Klingon/Fed ship to fly.

    That is, if I can get this darn GeForce card to play nice!!, lol. o:)

    I wonder what that compatibility problem could be, I have an AMD FX6300 system with an Nvidia 1060 card and they run the game well. If you have a Crossfire supporting motherboard maybe it got turned on in the bios somehow. Also, maybe your system (or perhaps just the game) is still trying to send things to the Radion drivers instead of the Nvidia ones, especially if you have an APU instead of a regular CPU.
  • captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    and the devs seem to be avoiding going back to DS9 and the other older Treks lately.
    Yes, because the Elachi, Seven of Nine, Excalbians, and Zefram Cochrane, exist solely in the new shows.

    Elachi are mushrooms, which ties in with DSC fungus, Seven of Nine is in the new shows (PIC). As for the Excalibans and Cochrane, it is anniversary season so it is not surprising they would have a little nostalgic content quickly forgotten to go back to the current stuff. Anyway, that quoted line is a tangent but not meant to derail this thread so I will leave it at that.

    .. so? STO's always done cross series tie in's like that, the entire delta quadrant arc involves the Vaadwar, introduced in voyager, suborned by the bluegills, introduced in TNG, working for the Iconians (referanced in TNG) whom are responsable for the destruction of Romulaus (ST 2009) who also had the Elcachi working for them (Enterprise) who it turns out orginiated in the Mycellial realm (Disco)

    To use other examples, the Klingon war story arc has referances to genetic augments (first mentioned in TOS but explored a liiiitle more in Enterprise and DS9) the Original series, and voyager,

    TLDR Cryptic isn't going to neatly subdivide their storylines into "this is TOS content, this is TNG content, this is DS9 content" etc. it's all one franchise and they'll treat it as such.

    and yes right now they're doing some new stuff with discovery because they've done a LOT with other series already.

    there are nearly a hundred missions in STO, of those a grand total of... 8 or so are related to discovery.

    of the new stuff, I don't think the measure of morality is exactly a "picard and discovery" focused mission, sure seven and Burnham are there but it's really more a "trip down memory lane"

    and the NEWEST content, the first contact day patrol, I suppose you COULD argue is a Picard tie in, due to Seven and the amount of borg stuff, but really it's IMHO more a referance to the trek movie first contact.

    So no I don't think they've say,,, forgotten about past series, anymore then say,.. the delta quadrant arc means TNG or DS9 where being forgotten about
  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    arnthebard wrote: »
    > @trennan said:
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    > The Maquis are a motely crew. They'd be a mix of other races we have now. Plus they were all but wiped out in the 2370's. I mean I could see them popping up as a problem, given the One Galactic Government, The Federation, and the multifactional lapdog allies are a thing now. Something that the surviving Maquis and their descendants would likely despise with every fiber of their being.

    Yes, but understand the broader implications. There are various factions that fall into the Piracy label and another that fall under Privateer label. As indicated in Enterprise there are Boomers out there. Not everyone is Starfleet or Klingon or Romulan faction. From the economic perspective this is the way that business is handled Smuggle or Trade. The ships would be mostly freighter types or some would be raiders. While others simply may be alien design with weapons and consoles not yet in the game. Point is everything doesn't have to be a military faction. An economic faction doesn't interfere with the military faction, in fact it helps to give it a reason for existence. It also would be a nice source for Section 31 missions alongside Tal-Shiar and Klingon equivalents. It is a good way to expand the game without worrying about creating discord. Besides it gives players new opportunities to farm equipment or dilithium or EC. The civilian part has been in Star Trek since the get go. It's time STO gave it serious consideration.

    I've been one to push for more civilian stuff in STO. You know, something simple, like patrols, you know, toss an escort a freighter through pirate country in there. Which could mean that the Alliance is escorting a Maquis freighter. Since they only had three ships. The Maquis fighter, a smaller, two person version of the Raider, The Maquis Raider, and a freighter we never saw on screen.

    Top this off with the fact you had Starfleet personnel from Admirals to low ranking nobody's resigning their commission or deserting to join the Maquis. Plus off memory alpha, "Eventually, the Maquis included members of the Human, Vulcan, Bajoran, Betazoid, Bolian, and Klingon species." Now you have to have a real good reason for Vulcans to join your ranks. Which this does say a lot about the Maquis.

    Now as a playable race, this doesn't work as much. As more off the "evil' faction that opposes the Grand Galactic Government, it would work. But again, for there to be an "evil" faction, they would have to work on part of the game they haven't supported since 2013, that being PvP. Sure you can make PvE stories from both opposing views. But, when it comes down to it, PvP is where multifaction shines. The fact that Cryptic stopped supporting PvP has cost them a good chunk of players.

    Now as far an actual bad guys that remain in game, all we have is T'ket, the Collective, and the Voth. That's it, everyone else is either neutral, or a loyal lapdog of the Federation, under the name of an Alliance. We could toss J'ulla in there, but her story is already nearing it's end. Since her attack on the myceal network endangers the Empire, she would be branded a traitor and hunted down. Like Torg, this puts her on the run and hide, or fight and die.

    So, while we can agree on certain points here. Bringing the Maquis in as playable race, no not gonna work. As a seperate faction to the others? Yes, it would work. As long as they could make to where anyone from any faction could choose to join. The only only thing with this that I see as the problem is the Duty Officer Assignments. I suppose the ones that join from the other factions could keep their chosen factions Doff assignments. Then at level 20 as it's own faction, any player that chose to start as Maquis, could just choose whether they wanted that character to have Federation or KDF doff assignments. Admiralty could stay the same. Which really, the choice for the other factions on Fed/KDf is nothing more than you chooising which Doff assignments you want. Nothing else changes, well other than ship selection as well.
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  • captainwellscaptainwells Member Posts: 718 Arc User
    joshmaul wrote: »
    That really only leaves the Borg Cooperative, which is something Cryptic has repeatedly said they want to do, they just haven't had the time/story for it.

    Plus the fact that liberated Borg are a staple for lifers. You know how many Talaxian characters I have seen in this game? Zip. My attempts to make one typically last the time it takes to walk to the Academy commandant's office. I see plenty of liberateds, though - I myself have three, human, Klingon, and Romulan.

    I have two lifetime memberships and have active Liberated Borg and Talaxian Captains. But I sort of like some of the wonkier starting race options so I also have Ferengi, Benzite, Nausicaan and Lethean toons. Just to name a few!
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