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kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
So, I have a fairly elaborate password for STO.
I need to look this up, copy and paste it each time I want to get in.

Could we PLEASE have an optional Password Store?

Thank you.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 2,922 Arc User
    kiksken wrote: »
    So, I have a fairly elaborate password for STO.
    I need to look this up, copy and paste it each time I want to get in.

    Could we PLEASE have an optional Password Store?

    Thank you.

    Or you can use a more simple pasword... still complex, but simple to remember... i do, not that difficult :neutral:

    The forces of darkness are upon us!
  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    1 ph34r h4xx0r5.... :(
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 2,922 Arc User
    :lol:
    The forces of darkness are upon us!
  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    #Iw4nt2P3Wn0w!
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    trennan wrote: »
    #Iw4nt2P3Wn0w!
    If I can find my password... :P
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 5,269 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    What? You can't just keep it in written form on you?
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 8,815 Arc User
    I keep mine in a secret file to copy-paste.

    I only need it for the website / fourms when the cookie expires since Arc fills it in automatically when launching the STO client.
  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    I keep mine in a secret file to copy-paste.
    THIS!!!
    But I kept it so secret... that I lost it...
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    Use Arc.
  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,178 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Use Arc.

    Some people dislike arc though and like to use the original launcher.

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  • kaggert27kaggert27 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    I keep mine in a secret file to copy-paste.

    I only need it for the website / fourms when the cookie expires since Arc fills it in automatically when launching the STO client.

    I tend to do this, due to the deluge of services/bills/whatnot that require passwords, all unique (mostly), keep separate files, backup, and 2-factor authentication, not to mention never saving passwords on browser, and nowadays people say use a password program, but same time, passwords are pointless/broken.

    It is the circle of life that is a pain in the kisser nowadays...sometimes I just wish we had bio chip things, or retina scan, but seeing as how everything is hackable or social engineering acquirable...it's an endless endeavor...

    So yes to the OP, change your password, keep your Paypal/whatever you use a different password/username, your CC/bank account, your email, and etc. different.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,764 Arc User
    This is a PEBKAC problem.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Use Arc.

    Use arc for codes. Since they removed Arc Quests, it's a waste of space.

    You can use the original game launcher, which requires you to enter your password. Or you can use Steam, which brings up a launcher that requires you to use your paassword.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,473 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    Complex passwords are too much of a pain to remember for most people. Release the Dogs of War is easy to remember or whatever your favorite phrase is and is less likely to be cracked compared to alphanumeric gibberish like C1OX42!19eaq or P!caRd1.
  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    Complex passwords are too much of a pain to remember for most people. Release the Dogs of War is easy to remember or whatever your favorite phrase is and is less likely to be cracked compared to alphanumeric gibberish like C1OX42!19eaq or P!caRd1.

    No, easy to use things are easier to crack. The gibberish as you say, actually falls within encryption bits. For example the U.S. Army says that at a minimum your password needs to contain, 2 Upper case, 2 lower case, 2 numbers, 2 special characters, and be a minimum of 10 characters long. This puts the password in the 158+ bit encryption area, making it far more difficult to crack. The more characters you use here, the higher the encryption bit gets. If memory serves, a 15 character password like this puts it in the 250+ bit encryption range.
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    trennan wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    Complex passwords are too much of a pain to remember for most people. Release the Dogs of War is easy to remember or whatever your favorite phrase is and is less likely to be cracked compared to alphanumeric gibberish like C1OX42!19eaq or P!caRd1.

    No, easy to use things are easier to crack. The gibberish as you say, actually falls within encryption bits. For example the U.S. Army says that at a minimum your password needs to contain, 2 Upper case, 2 lower case, 2 numbers, 2 special characters, and be a minimum of 10 characters long. This puts the password in the 158+ bit encryption area, making it far more difficult to crack. The more characters you use here, the higher the encryption bit gets. If memory serves, a 15 character password like this puts it in the 250+ bit encryption range.
    4h, 533m5 1 4m n07 7h3 0n1y 0n3 7h47 ph3425 h4xx022!l!!l
    p455w02d 54f37y f7w! XD
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 8,815 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    starkaos wrote: »
    Complex passwords are too much of a pain to remember for most people. Release the Dogs of War is easy to remember or whatever your favorite phrase is and is less likely to be cracked compared to alphanumeric gibberish like C1OX42!19eaq or P!caRd1.

    Using the same password on multiple sites seems like a great time-saver, until you find out that one of those sites had their password database stolen and it was either plaintext or easily cracked hashes.
  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    kiksken wrote: »
    trennan wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    Complex passwords are too much of a pain to remember for most people. Release the Dogs of War is easy to remember or whatever your favorite phrase is and is less likely to be cracked compared to alphanumeric gibberish like C1OX42!19eaq or P!caRd1.

    No, easy to use things are easier to crack. The gibberish as you say, actually falls within encryption bits. For example the U.S. Army says that at a minimum your password needs to contain, 2 Upper case, 2 lower case, 2 numbers, 2 special characters, and be a minimum of 10 characters long. This puts the password in the 158+ bit encryption area, making it far more difficult to crack. The more characters you use here, the higher the encryption bit gets. If memory serves, a 15 character password like this puts it in the 250+ bit encryption range.
    4h, 533m5 1 4m n07 7h3 0n1y 0n3 7h47 ph3425 h4xx022!l!!l
    p455w02d 54f37y f7w! XD

    LMAO. Man after 11 years in the Army and having to deal with it, plus being a disable vet and still dealing with with the VA. IT'a both funny and infuriating at the same time. Since I still have to change my password every 150 days, because the one I was using expires.

    So, at least with games, you don't have to do the mandatory password change twice per year. At least with a game, or other website, you jus thave to remember the on password that you don't actually have to change.
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    @trennan that was one of the reasons I asked for the option to store game password in the game itself.
    One can then create a decent password, and not having to look it up every ten minutes to log in.
    PROVIDING he is on a system he alone accesses, naturally.
    That then, should be quite obvious, I reckon...?
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 2,922 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    Still, STO have account guard, so its a 2 way autentication... and for that they would need access to your email
    The forces of darkness are upon us!
  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Still, STO have account guard, so its a 2 way autentication... and for that they would need access to your email
    So true, but the optional PW store on login screen has nothing to do with that 2-way auth, does it, sir? :)
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    kiksken wrote: »
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Still, STO have account guard, so its a 2 way autentication... and for that they would need access to your email
    So true, but the optional PW store on login screen has nothing to do with that 2-way auth, does it, sir? :)

    As far as this goes. The easiest way to insure that your information is safe, is to never save it on your computer or phone. Anytime I buy something online, say from tigerdirect, bestbuy, amazon, etc. I have to enter my card information every time. This is, if someone does gain access to sch things, all they're going to get is a whole lot of nothing.
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    edited March 2020
    Not gonna lie, when I saw the thread title I wondered why someone was trying to get my password.​​
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    Not gonna lie, when I saw the thread title I wondered why someone was trying to get my password.​​
    I figured asking politely would be better than.... ROFL...

    Hmmm, maybe the title isn't all that clear, thank you for pointing that out.
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    kiksken wrote: »
    gaevsman wrote: »
    Still, STO have account guard, so its a 2 way autentication... and for that they would need access to your email
    So true, but the optional PW store on login screen has nothing to do with that 2-way auth, does it, sir? :)

    Oh I'm not against this type of thing, for those that would want to use it.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 2,922 Arc User
    kiksken wrote: »
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    Not gonna lie, when I saw the thread title I wondered why someone was trying to get my password.​​
    I figured asking politely would be better than.... ROFL...

    Hmmm, maybe the title isn't all that clear, thank you for pointing that out.

    Well, a title that says "Put here your passrowrds so you never forget.." was kinda obvious! :lol:
    The forces of darkness are upon us!
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Use Arc.

    Some people dislike arc though and like to use the original launcher.
    A problem of their own making, then.
  • mez83mez83 Member Posts: 232 Arc User
    I use short phrases were I capitalize the first letter and change some letters to numbers or special characters they look like.

    I Like STO = 1L1k3$T0
  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    mez83 wrote: »
    I use short phrases were I capitalize the first letter and change some letters to numbers or special characters they look like.

    I Like STO = 1L1k3$T0
    L337 forever eh! XD
    Klingons don't get drunk.
    They just get less sober.
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