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Holo-emitters as part of space missions
fleetcaptain5
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What's your opinion on the holo-emitters as used in Battle of the Binary stars, where players' ships are made to look like those from another era? Should this feature remain, should it be made optional (so that players can have their ship shown as they designed it, or choose to activate an holo-emitter) or should it be removed entirely?
[4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
Post edited by baddmoonrizin on
Holo-emitters as part of space missions 60 votes
Keep it as it is
38%
23 votes
Make it optional
41%
25 votes
Remove the feature
20%
12 votes
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I invest heavily in my ship visuals, space barbie truly is an important part of the end-game content for me.
I've even bought variants of the Vesta, and quite expensive vanity shields just to further customise my ships. When I'm flying it, I want it to look the way I made it.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
It is part of the story, live with it.
Otherwise I'll request me a Borg Cube for my Borg characters...
Seems a fair trade off to me.
They just get less sober.
They just get less sober.
Yeah the story...
Where we are randomly engaging in a holo-simulation that doesn't even adapt the story to the fact that my Federation ship destroyed an entire armada there.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
True, but if you are forced to play it for multiple weeks for the event, it's still kind of annoying.
When I log on, I want to fly my ship. Not some random ship. And Cryptic should understand this, they encourage players to invest in building and customising their own ships after all.
Seems kind of odd to completely negate that effort then, right? The fact that it's just one mission, doesn't really change that.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
I'm inclined to agree. I mean, if we're obliterating everything in sight (typically with at least three people with red burst Gravity Wells on their ships), T'Kuvma's bragging about Klingon supremacy seems like false advertising, don't it?
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TFOs: Make it optional.
It also doesnt really add anything to the story, its a lul-fest of obliterating everything in sight than T'kuvma bragging about how awesome klingons are cuse they destroyed three whole ships, probably one of the worst tfos in the game from a story standpoint so let me fly my Keldon..
On topic: It's a minor issue for those that do not like it.
I get it.
But truthfully... how many times do you run said mission?
And how long are you in that holo-situation?
Do what we Borg do... adapt.
They just get less sober.
It's one mission... that I have to play every day, and right after spending not insignificant amounts of Zen on the legendary ships - at least partly for the visuals - and then also to get the new Section 31 ship - which, it turns out, has an ability (drone swarm) that *doesn't work* with the holo-emitter on (linked to the model I guess?).
I guess some people might like it. Perhaps it's good for context / immersion or something. But at least give me the option to do something else for my event credit, or turn it off in the mission...
Then people will complain about not being able to fly their own ships. As it is now its a compromise. You have your own ship with your own build. Just the APPEARANCE of an era appropriate ship.
Or do you really want to see the forums ignite on fire again over being forced into a standard Cryptic build?
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First, Disco ships are hideously ugly.
Second, it is entirely random what ship you look like, as far as I can tell, so you can't even get used to a class of ship based on what kind of ship yours is, and that matters because one of the issues I have is easily forgetting what my actual ship is, a speedy escort, a sluggish cruiser, or whatever. It is "fun" maneuvering a Scimitar around when you don't remember you're flying one, when you see this little thing that looks escortish.
Third, it is just pointless. In Night of the Comet or other actual time travel missions, it makes sense to use it. Binary stars being a simulation, it doesn't matter.
Fourth, as I remember, the premise of the mission is to learn the tactics of the Klingons of the time period, because we have to fight them now, not historical reenactment for history's sake. So why would we even want to use anything but our actual ships with our actual abilities?
Photonic Fleet still works.
Never had that problem myself.
We ARE using our actual ships still. Our loadouts haven't changed, our BOff abilities haven't changed, our performance hasn't changed. The ONLY thing that has changed is the visual appearance. Something that has no effect on performance. So it doesn't matter if you're ship looks like a Malachouski or a Shepard. It will behave EXACTLY like whatever you were flying when you queued up for it. May look like a Malachouski, but is actually a Vengeance, complete with Broadside Emitters. Or it may look like a Shepard, but is actually a Crossfield with 300+ ControlX spamming Gravity Wells.
We're not being stuck in era appropriate Cryptic Builds. We're still using our own. Thus we ARE using 25th Century tactics in a historical simulation. What are ship looks like doesn't matter. We're not losing our ship for this thing. Literally the ONLY thing that changes is cosmetic.
Not having access to Fleet Support or other pet summoning abilities may be because this is a simulation for us to gather data. Not just turkey shoot for the lulz. Lore wise it makes sense that we wouldn't be able to call in for reinforcements because the Federation forces present at the Binary Stars couldn't either. So the simulation is keeping at least that element historically accurate. Other than that, we're flying in there with 25th Century tech in a 23rd Century skin.
I don't even know where this idea of "we're not using OUR ships" for it comes from. Because WE ARE USING OUR SHIPS. It honestly sounds like people are upset they can't see their Scimitars, Borg Juggernoughts, and Tzenkethi Dreadnoughts blasting the Klingons. Purely cosmetic.
Would I like to see my Discovery Connie or Crossfield in there? Sometimes. But it really doesn't matter to me. Its ONE queue, that injects an element of immersion into the game. As I said before, the visual change is a compromise. Would you rather that, or getting stuck in the ever popular stock Cryptic Build for "historical accuracy"?
Did it surprise me the first time I went in? Yes. Once I found out it was part of the sim I just sat back and enjoyed myself. I still had all my abilities and pets, when I was flying a ship with pets. These days I'm flying the Alliance Battlecruiser and it kicks behinds.
They just get less sober.
It is pure logical to use disguise.
In this particular case: a holo-disguise.
This is btw explained in the mission.
They just get less sober.
In this case, Federation, KDF, Republic, and Dominion forces taking part in the simulation are taking on the role of the Federation fleet at the Binary Stars, and having the simulation, while using the capabilities of our ships, alter the appearance of our ships for the purpose of the exercise. And don't forget we're talking about possibly advanced AI algorithms in the holodeck that are made to accurately simulate how the Klingons would respond. If the AI Klingons were confronted with Klingon ships as well as ships from two unknown factions, it may skew the data as the AI scrambles to determine how 23rd Century Klingons would respond to these variables. By enforcing an era appropriate camoflauge, the data stays accurate to how they would react.
Again we are still using our own ships with all of the performance we've established with our ships. And there is no need to start hurling insults at people either.