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Will there be any new missions in STO that parallel the new Trek?
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,165 Arc User
    No. The anniversary mission has Seven with her new Picard look, but nothing in the actual mission (besides one line Seven says) relates to the show. I'm sure they have stuff in the pipeline though.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
    Took about a year before we started really seeing Discovery content as the Devs had to know what was in the show as well, and I believe most of them were seeing it at the same time we were. So give it about a year and we may start seeing some mission content.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    I hope we get Samurai Romulans
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  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Some of the Devs do have more knowledge of what is happening in Picard than others, but its mostly a need to know basis.

    I'm in agreement that its gonna be probably a year before we even dip into Picard stuff.

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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    Since it's very clear at this point that STP is set in a different universe/timeline from STO I really don't think we'll get much more than what we have for the JJverse, ie a mission where we travel to that universe as well as some lockbox/lobi ships.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    Icheb, Data, Romulan populations displaced with no known central homeworld (nothing on the Remans either), the state of the federation, Romulan spies working with the federation, this artifact, civilians working to unravel a conspiracy central to the threat of the federation. no mention of the tensions between the Federation and Klingons.

    There isn't a great deal on display so far, but what is on display conflicts with star trek online somewhat, so even if changes were made to accommodate STP, it could get really ugly trying to tie up the various storylines with the way things are in STP. i mean there is no way an inward looking Federation would be so open and expansive in under 10 years.

    The developers are gonna have to be careful where they go from here, as well as being mindful of future discovery and picard seasons that will write off certain aspects of the STO storyline, like the undine threat, no federation-klingon war, and aside from the romulans, everything else remains calm. now how will that work out?

    It seems the developers pandering to canon events might ultimately be their own undoing instead of following their own game canon events and finally to stop ignoring their own game characters in the process.
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  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 3,997 Arc User
    With the developments in episode 5 and that Picard is set before the STO timeline I wonder if a certain somebody will be removed from a certain station in Sherman sector.

    We need Elnor in game though :)
  • captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    I'd not be suprised to see STO adopt an stance of offically being in an alternate timeline while at the same time trying to borrow as much as possiable. Things I can see plugging into STO fairly easily...

    1: the Qowat Milat(they'd make an awesome "second romulan rep faction")
    2: the Fenris Rangers (likewise I could see them being a great rep faction)
    3: Freecloud (Imagine an adventure zone that's basicly "cyberpunk meets star trek"....... dear lord I think I just drooled on my keyboard)
    4: various new ships (we've seen a few new romulan ships)
    5: various characters (heck replace Quinn with Admiral Clancy?)


    I reaaaaaly would love to see the Qowat Milat
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,342 Arc User
    I'd not be suprised to see STO adopt an stance of offically being in an alternate timeline while at the same time trying to borrow as much as possiable.

    The Dev's said way before STP launch that this is what they would probably do.

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  • truewarpertruewarper Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    I am not keen on PIcard journeys...it will be a one man show.
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  • nrobbiecnrobbiec Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    The problem isn't trying to accommodate new additions to the canon, it's the fact that there's no way to future proof. If they tried to rewrite everything possible to stay in line with what we've learnt so far from Picard season 1, season 2 could then just go and throw out something that causes yet another deep rewrite.

    Icheb wasn't a big presence in the game, but he's the first in game character that needs removing entirely to be in-continuity (Data doesn't count because well, it isn't stated or even obvious in mission that it's him).

    But what if they killed off Seven, or at some point killed off someone like Worf or Geordie? It's really just best for them to borrow elements and weave them into the canon of this universe.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    I'd not be suprised to see STO adopt an stance of offically being in an alternate timeline while at the same time trying to borrow as much as possiable. Things I can see plugging into STO fairly easily...

    1: the Qowat Milat(they'd make an awesome "second romulan rep faction")
    2: the Fenris Rangers (likewise I could see them being a great rep faction)
    3: Freecloud (Imagine an adventure zone that's basicly "cyberpunk meets star trek"....... dear lord I think I just drooled on my keyboard)
    4: various new ships (we've seen a few new romulan ships)
    5: various characters (heck replace Quinn with Admiral Clancy?)


    I reaaaaaly would love to see the Qowat Milat

    everything would be very cool and a good a addition to the game.
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  • psytce0002psytce0002 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    I wonder if they are going to update the Star Trek Online story to have Data not come back. I know the STO story was taking the "New" Star Trek movie (Star Trek '2009') and using the "New" Canon, which had Captain Data flying around on the Enterprise E.

    Now that Star Trek: Picard does not have Data coming back from the dead and being the Captain of the Enterprise will they update the STO Story ?
  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,165 Arc User
    I'd not be suprised to see STO adopt an stance of offically being in an alternate timeline while at the same time trying to borrow as much as possiable.

    They really should. Remember the episode "Parallels"? Most (key word) of those timelines were nearly (key word) identical, with only minor differences. That's the approach STO should take; an alternate timeline sticking as close to the shows as possible but not being in trouble if the show does decide to kill off a character or destroy a location that the devs would prefer not to remove from the game.

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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 5,443 Arc User
    Icheb, Data, Romulan populations displaced with no known central homeworld (nothing on the Remans either), the state of the federation, Romulan spies working with the federation, this artifact, civilians working to unravel a conspiracy central to the threat of the federation. no mention of the tensions between the Federation and Klingons.

    There isn't a great deal on display so far, but what is on display conflicts with star trek online somewhat, so even if changes were made to accommodate STP, it could get really ugly trying to tie up the various storylines with the way things are in STP. i mean there is no way an inward looking Federation would be so open and expansive in under 10 years.

    The developers are gonna have to be careful where they go from here, as well as being mindful of future discovery and picard seasons that will write off certain aspects of the STO storyline, like the undine threat, no federation-klingon war, and aside from the romulans, everything else remains calm. now how will that work out?

    It seems the developers pandering to canon events might ultimately be their own undoing instead of following their own game canon events and finally to stop ignoring their own game characters in the process.

    Again, being as close to canon is not pandering to canon. Also, they are not ignoring their own game characters in the process. Most of those stories have completed and some may even return.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    sthe91 wrote: »
    Icheb, Data, Romulan populations displaced with no known central homeworld (nothing on the Remans either), the state of the federation, Romulan spies working with the federation, this artifact, civilians working to unravel a conspiracy central to the threat of the federation. no mention of the tensions between the Federation and Klingons.

    There isn't a great deal on display so far, but what is on display conflicts with star trek online somewhat, so even if changes were made to accommodate STP, it could get really ugly trying to tie up the various storylines with the way things are in STP. i mean there is no way an inward looking Federation would be so open and expansive in under 10 years.

    The developers are gonna have to be careful where they go from here, as well as being mindful of future discovery and picard seasons that will write off certain aspects of the STO storyline, like the undine threat, no federation-klingon war, and aside from the romulans, everything else remains calm. now how will that work out?

    It seems the developers pandering to canon events might ultimately be their own undoing instead of following their own game canon events and finally to stop ignoring their own game characters in the process.

    Again, being as close to canon is not pandering to canon. Also, they are not ignoring their own game characters in the process. Most of those stories have completed and some may even return.

    oh? i suppose getting as many tv characters from the shows into the game as possible and using them primarily with just the usual three narrators Quinn, Jm'pok and D'tan aren't ignoring the problem? Meanwhile game characters are being deleted from the game and others are in fact being ignored.

    The Dominion arc when it was first released contained a briefing between a number of game characters that haven't been seen since. Kurland, S'tasss, two others i can't remember the name of a bald cardassian and a deferi.

    even characters you expect to show up; Shon, Jarok and Koren, where have they been the last few years?

    Van Zyil, Obisek, Mackenzie, Drake.. how many others haven't been in the spotlight since? I'd like you prove i'm wrong in this.
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  • tribbulatertribbulater Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    It's a big universe, and Star Trek crews generally get sent on widely varying missions. In a setup like DS9, you're going to run into important characters repeatedly because it's stationary and they have a couple central concerns that they are all revolving around. In the ship-based shows however, many locations/characters will only ever be encountered once or twice.

    If you ran into Franklin Drake more than 2-3 times in your entire career it would sort of imply he's not doing a very good job. Starship captains from different factions would be unlikely to bump into each other very often.

    There's a pretty big difference between "using characters where and when appropriate" and "ignoring them".
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Rugan Skyl who was retconned out by Elim Garak. The Deferi was Ambassador Surah.

    Shon, for being the Captain of the Federation Flagship got the short shrift and was probably sent out on a deep space mission to find Self-sealing Stem Bolts.

    We last interacted with Shon, Jarok, and Koren in the final mission of the Iconian War Arc, 'Midnight'. They were non interactable NPCs in a couple of Future Proof missions.

    The others, have gone to ground.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    I'd not be suprised to see STO adopt an stance of offically being in an alternate timeline while at the same time trying to borrow as much as possiable.

    They really should. Remember the episode "Parallels"? Most (key word) of those timelines were nearly (key word) identical, with only minor differences. That's the approach STO should take; an alternate timeline sticking as close to the shows as possible but not being in trouble if the show does decide to kill off a character or destroy a location that the devs would prefer not to remove from the game.
    It's really all that Cryptic can do. It would be impossible for them to hit a moving target that both Picard and Discovery represent.
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 5,443 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    sthe91 wrote: »
    Icheb, Data, Romulan populations displaced with no known central homeworld (nothing on the Remans either), the state of the federation, Romulan spies working with the federation, this artifact, civilians working to unravel a conspiracy central to the threat of the federation. no mention of the tensions between the Federation and Klingons.

    There isn't a great deal on display so far, but what is on display conflicts with star trek online somewhat, so even if changes were made to accommodate STP, it could get really ugly trying to tie up the various storylines with the way things are in STP. i mean there is no way an inward looking Federation would be so open and expansive in under 10 years.

    The developers are gonna have to be careful where they go from here, as well as being mindful of future discovery and picard seasons that will write off certain aspects of the STO storyline, like the undine threat, no federation-klingon war, and aside from the romulans, everything else remains calm. now how will that work out?

    It seems the developers pandering to canon events might ultimately be their own undoing instead of following their own game canon events and finally to stop ignoring their own game characters in the process.

    Again, being as close to canon is not pandering to canon. Also, they are not ignoring their own game characters in the process. Most of those stories have completed and some may even return.

    oh? i suppose getting as many tv characters from the shows into the game as possible and using them primarily with just the usual three narrators Quinn, Jm'pok and D'tan aren't ignoring the problem? Meanwhile game characters are being deleted from the game and others are in fact being ignored.

    The Dominion arc when it was first released contained a briefing between a number of game characters that haven't been seen since. Kurland, S'tasss, two others i can't remember the name of a bald cardassian and a deferi.

    even characters you expect to show up; Shon, Jarok and Koren, where have they been the last few years?

    Van Zyl, Obisek, Mackenzie, Drake.. how many others haven't been in the spotlight since? I'd like you prove i'm wrong in this.

    The voice actor for Kurland was/is non-SAG. Unless he ever tries to get into acting and join the Screen Actors Guild, he is not going to come back due to those rules, at least the VA shows up in the new TFO To Hell With Honor. Also, the Cardassian (Rugan Skyl, now Elim Garak) and the Deferi have new voice actors now. Do not know if the previous voice actors were SAG or not. Obisek appears in the new episode Measure of Morality Part 1. So no, they are not being ignored and some have already had their storyline completed. Of course some have died as well or made a new life decision for themselves.
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  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 519 Arc User
    sthe91 wrote: »
    The voice actor for Kurland was/is non-SAG.

    Wasn't he one of the devs?
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    He is now sad but was never SAG, which would restrict him to 10 minutes or less of VOs. I'm not sure if he used up quite a bit of that 10 minutes by constantly repeating 'Kurland here' in 'Boldly they Rode'. :)
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    Funny for people who want Devs to retconn STO to follow the show what if the show says Remans are extinct because why would Romulans try to save them or so few of them left to keep the species going for another ten years

    At least Quark's bar being franchised is now canon and hopefully got his moon so at least STO can keep that
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    koren shows up in the imaga patrol (the one where you have to stop mo'kai raiders from harvesting spores from the doomsday machine debris) so she at least is still being used...though i think cryptic gave her a different VA, because she sounded different from the last instance she appeared in​​
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 5,443 Arc User
    joshmaul wrote: »
    sthe91 wrote: »
    The voice actor for Kurland was/is non-SAG.

    Wasn't he one of the devs?

    Yes.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
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    Well, now the closing of the ****** System Patrol makes sense.
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,111 Arc User
    oh? i suppose getting as many tv characters from the shows into the game as possible and using them primarily with just the usual three narrators Quinn, Jm'pok and D'tan aren't ignoring the problem? Meanwhile game characters are being deleted from the game and others are in fact being ignored.

    The Dominion arc when it was first released contained a briefing between a number of game characters that haven't been seen since. Kurland, S'tasss, two others i can't remember the name of a bald cardassian and a deferi.

    even characters you expect to show up; Shon, Jarok and Koren, where have they been the last few years?

    Van Zyil, Obisek, Mackenzie, Drake.. how many others haven't been in the spotlight since? I'd like you prove i'm wrong in this.
    Lets see
    • VanZyl was last seen during the Pahvo TFOs in the Mirror of Discovery update
    • Obisek was seen in "The Temporal Front" in the Future Proof arc, as well as during "Storm Clouds Gather" in the Gamma Quadrant arc
    • Franklin Drake was last seen during "Midnight", but we heard him in "Quark's Lucky Seven", as he was the one who did the Starfleet Intelligence reports Quark and Rom steal in said mission
    • Since the end of the Iconian War, Shon has shown up in the missions "The Temporal Front" in the Future Proof arc, "Scylla and Charybdis" in the New Frontiers arc, and "Storm Clouds Gather" in the Gamma Quadrant arc.
    • Koren also showed up in "The Temporal Front", while not seen physically, her ship was at DS9 during "Storm Clouds Gather", and she was seen physically in the "Ruins of Doom" patrol
    • Jarok was also present in both "The Temporal Front" and "Storm Clouds Gather", in the Future Proof and Gamma Quadrant arcs respectively.

    Mackenzie was never a character in STO's story, just an NPC on K-7 for some PVP stuff.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
    Obisek is in Measure of Morality.

    So is Shon. But I think they recycled dialog from earlier missions.
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