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When is a Dreadnought not a Dreadnought?

ilithynilithyn Member Posts: 903 Arc User
edited September 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Answer: Apparently when it's klingon.

Today I have the "kill 3 dreadnoughts" endeavor and I was doing some rTFOs for dil. I land in Battle of Binary Stars and sees that it has klingon dreadnoughts in it (been a long time since I played btw). Sweet, some dil, marks and an endeavor down I think.
But no. The dreadnoughts do apparently not count in spite of being called dreadnoughts.

So out of interest, why not? And what ships are actually dreadnoughts in this game. I guess they're called, well anything but dreadnought for you know, ease of understanding.
Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end of it.
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  • jozen#9312 jozen
    jozen#9312
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    Did you happen to notice if they had the 4 gold rank bars?
  • tribbulatertribbulater Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    This was brought up in the past, but yes, the BoBS KDF ships have the name dreadnoughts but not the actual rank, stats or hit points of one. Best bets for that are the Tactical cubes etc. in Hive Onslaught, I think ISA has 2 (the tac cube and the gate), Dranuur Gauntlet can spawn numerous ones, the Planet Killers at the end of the Undine Battlezone, I think there might be some at the end of the Voth side of the Battlezone as well. Normally I just use Onslaught and ISE.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    The two or three Voth Dreadnoughts that show up so they can splinter apart in the Undine Battlezone Voth Counterattack Phase do count. I have seen the Planet Killers not count. The Tethys that show up in the Undine BZ if you have a few people at a capture point do count.

    You get two in ISN as well.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
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    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
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  • ilithynilithyn Member Posts: 903 Arc User
    tribbulater wrote: »
    This was brought up in the past, but yes, the BoBS KDF ships have the name dreadnoughts but not the actual rank, stats or hit points of one. Best bets for that are the Tactical cubes etc. in Hive Onslaught, I think ISA has 2 (the tac cube and the gate), Dranuur Gauntlet can spawn numerous ones, the Planet Killers at the end of the Undine Battlezone, I think there might be some at the end of the Voth side of the Battlezone as well. Normally I just use Onslaught and ISE.

    Thanks for the tip. Ended up in a Borg Disconnected and can report that the three big ships at the end is indeed dreadnoughts according to game mechanics. So I may do that one from now on when I have the 'kill 3 dreadnoughts' from now on.
    Since Voth is a ground BZ I doubt the dinos at the end counts as dreadnought, but I do believe they count as captains for the ground version of this endeavor. I vaguely recall going there when I had that one back when I last played in earnest which is something like nine months ago.
    jozen#9312 wrote: »
    Did you happen to notice if they had the 4 gold rank bars?

    No idea. But why name something "dreadnought" when it isn't? It's bad enough that the actual dreadnoughts are rarely named thus but why in the name of all that is sane would you then go and name something that's not a dreadnought 'dreadnought' on top of that? Sometimes it genuinely feel like they try to do the most to confuse the players.
    I'd let them off the hook if BoBS was a pre-endeavor TFO because it might be too much of an onus to go back and change older stuff, so while annoying, okay then. But it's not!
    Just... why?
    Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end of it.
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    You can also run Step Between Stars or Surface Tension for Tethys dreadnoughts.
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    The ones that don't count are really Dreadnought Cruisers that have had their names deceptively truncated. They should be renamed. It shouldn't be up to the players to double check the status window indicators, assuming that they even know to do that.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    Voth Citadels (Contested Zone) count, and are very easy to defeat. The boss ships at the end of Conch'ra (sp?) Lukari BZ, count as dreads too.

    I used to 'dread' the endeavors that said to kill 3 of those, but it's become super-easy now.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,468 Arc User
    Hive Onslaught is the best for that one.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Hive Onslaught is the best for that one.

    It's definitely good, though a little luck on your instance and the Undine Battlezone is probably just as fast and rewarding. You'll probably have a few show up while dealing with the Planet Killers, as well as at least a couple more Voth ones during the bonus shooting gallery phase. As noted above, the Planet Killers themselves don't count because they're actually 5 pips and some other designation
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Voth Citadels (Contested Zone) count, and are very easy to defeat. The boss ships at the end of Conch'ra (sp?) Lukari BZ, count as dreads too.

    I used to 'dread' the endeavors that said to kill 3 of those, but it's become super-easy now.
    The Voth Citatels that spawn in the Contested Zone of the Solanae Dyson Sphere are my go-to. Easy to kill, like you said, and fairly easy to get to spawn.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Voth Citadels (Contested Zone) count, and are very easy to defeat. The boss ships at the end of Conch'ra (sp?) Lukari BZ, count as dreads too.

    I used to 'dread' the endeavors that said to kill 3 of those, but it's become super-easy now.
    I fondly miss the times when it required 18.
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    Badlands Battlezone is probably my favorite for that endeavor. You can easily knock it out a single point with enough people.
  • lasoniolasonio Member Posts: 490 Arc User
    I always do Borg Disconnected or Counterpoint. You are guaranteed to run into exactly 3 dreads
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  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Voth Citadels (Contested Zone) count, and are very easy to defeat. The boss ships at the end of Conch'ra (sp?) Lukari BZ, count as dreads too.

    I used to 'dread' the endeavors that said to kill 3 of those, but it's become super-easy now.
    I fondly miss the times when it required 18.

    I also like it when things aren't any more difficult, just more time-consuming. These things that are supposed to be done in a day should take over an hour each.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • lopequillopequil Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    Borg gateways count as dreadnoughts. If I get that endeavour I usually just do a round each of Infected Space and Khitomer Space.
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    Hur'q swarms are also dreadnoughts in the various Gamma scenarios they are in, and those take 5 minutes at most. They obviously aren't in every scenario, though.
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