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possible Jean-Luc Picard appearance?

whistlerdavidwhistlerdavid Member Posts: 416 Arc User
edited September 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
it would be cool if we did some time traveling and just get a few scenes with him in the middle of a mission with a possible data kid has a reward. now that i think about it have him in it longer and make it a one time payed for expansion pack i am sure people would be fine with that people would understand the man wouldn't be cheap so we would be willing to pay has long has their is lots of content with it more then likely just a pipe dream. but one can only hope
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    No. Content behind a paywall won't go over very well when every other content is not behind a paywall.
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
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    Not sure if I want the Starfleet from ST:Picard in STO. No Data. No holographic life forms. No Utopia Planitia.
    I do not want to be any more specific because - spoilers.

    I really do like the show. The concepts presented so far are excellent. The story is entertaining and told in a manner which makes me want to see more. Have gone back and watched all three episodes two or three times now. Every time I see something I missed before.

    But STO has enough grimdark in it already. So one more grimdark might get overlooked.
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  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef
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    I rather like the grim dark to be honest. Without darkness we have no way to recognise the light.

    The themes of idealism versus reality explored in Discovery and Picard make for more realistic stories. This was also explored in DS9 and made it such a strong show for that element.
  • captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    thunderfoot#5163 wrote: »
    Not sure if I want the Starfleet from ST:Picard in STO. No Data. No holographic life forms. No Utopia Planitia.
    I do not want to be any more specific because - spoilers.

    I really do like the show. The concepts presented so far are excellent. The story is entertaining and told in a manner which makes me want to see more. Have gone back and watched all three episodes two or three times now. Every time I see something I missed before.

    But STO has enough grimdark in it already. So one more grimdark might get overlooked.

    except we do see holographic lifeforms, it's pretty clear to me the prohibitions are only against physical synths.

  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    They don't make more realistic stories, they make darker ones. Darker and realistic are not the same thing.

    The idea of Idealism vs Reality, where realism and optimism are considered mutually exclusive concepts, is just as juvenile as grimdark-lovers often accuse optimists of being.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    captainbrian11 wrote: »
    thunderfoot#5163 wrote: »
    Not sure if I want the Starfleet from ST:Picard in STO. No Data. No holographic life forms. No Utopia Planitia.
    I do not want to be any more specific because - spoilers.

    I really do like the show. The concepts presented so far are excellent. The story is entertaining and told in a manner which makes me want to see more. Have gone back and watched all three episodes two or three times now. Every time I see something I missed before.

    But STO has enough grimdark in it already. So one more grimdark might get overlooked.

    except we do see holographic lifeforms, it's pretty clear to me the prohibitions are only against physical synths.

    Which seems extremely weird. We see an EMH conduct surgery on the new Captain which means they can revolt just like the Synthetics did and do just as much damage. So the only logical conclusion is ban all synthetics or just that particular line of Synthetics instead of imposing a complete ban on all Synthetic research.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    Payed expansions aren't going to happen in STO (though I personally prefer that monetization method over loot boxes and expensive "micro" transactions).

    As for Picard, I know Cryptic would love to get him in the game somehow, and I think Patrick Stewart would do it of he had the time, but his fee is probably out of Cryptic's price range.
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  • truewarpertruewarper Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    As much I love the idea, it cannot be entertained for story reasons, not now.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    truewarper wrote: »
    As much I love the idea, it cannot be entertained for story reasons, not now.

    If CBS called up Cryptic and said "Hey, we got you Patrick Stewart at a price you can afford" I can guarantee you they would FIND a way to fit him in, be it time travel to the TNG / TNG Film era, travel to the STP (canon) universe / timeline, or getting him to voice the STO timeline version of Picard. If Patrick Stewart said yes he would be in the game, no question.
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  • whistlerdavidwhistlerdavid Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    truewarper wrote: »
    As much I love the idea, it cannot be entertained for story reasons, not now.

    its possible story wise . game wise it could take place somewhere between the last movie and the new show. has far has i can tell he was still in star fleet years after the last movie
  • captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    they could also do the useal time travel thing, if they're ablke to bring Micheal Burnham and numerous TOS chartacters in Picard's easy compartivly.
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,261 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    captainbrian11 wrote: »
    thunderfoot#5163 wrote: »
    Not sure if I want the Starfleet from ST:Picard in STO. No Data. No holographic life forms. No Utopia Planitia.
    I do not want to be any more specific because - spoilers.

    I really do like the show. The concepts presented so far are excellent. The story is entertaining and told in a manner which makes me want to see more. Have gone back and watched all three episodes two or three times now. Every time I see something I missed before.

    But STO has enough grimdark in it already. So one more grimdark might get overlooked.

    except we do see holographic lifeforms, it's pretty clear to me the prohibitions are only against physical synths.

    Which seems extremely weird. We see an EMH conduct surgery on the new Captain which means they can revolt just like the Synthetics did and do just as much damage. So the only logical conclusion is ban all synthetics or just that particular line of Synthetics instead of imposing a complete ban on all Synthetic research.

    Well there's a fundemental difference between Holograms and Androids that makes Holograms easier to control in the end and that is that Holograms are in the just AI programs with hologramic avatars and if you disable to the computer runnings those AI the holograms go away also holograms can enter only locations where there's emitters (this was in issue with Voyager until they got the mobile emitter). Androids are on the other hand 100% self-contained and thus can go anywhere humans can and don't have an obvious weak spot.

    Also do we know that the EMH in Picard is truly "alive" as far as I can remember the EMH on Voyager was an exception to the rule not the rule.

    Also mobile emitters would still be fairly high tech so policing those shouldn't be that hard (or simpy making jammers that disable mobile emitters in certain locations).
  • captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    case in point, had the "android revolution" on mars been by EMHs they could have just told the coimputer to end the program, On Mars we saw they had to physicly try and stop the synths, which would be.. hard.
    And then yeah, keeps holograms out of areas they're not supposed to be like a ship bridge, a reactor room etc, is as simple as not putting holoprojectors in the room. in fact given the limits holograms have vs androids, I'd argue the real question is why the hell would you use androids over photonics, the latter seems immesurably safer and more secure.
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,261 Arc User
    captainbrian11 wrote: »
    case in point, had the "android revolution" on mars been by EMHs they could have just told the coimputer to end the program, On Mars we saw they had to physicly try and stop the synths, which would be.. hard.
    And then yeah, keeps holograms out of areas they're not supposed to be like a ship bridge, a reactor room etc, is as simple as not putting holoprojectors in the room. in fact given the limits holograms have vs androids, I'd argue the real question is why the hell would you use androids over photonics, the latter seems immesurably safer and more secure.

    While I suspect that simply ending the program isn't a viable option, cutting power to the computer might be after all if the computer gets no power it cannot run any programs.
  • captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    it'd also be a lot easier to build failsafes like having a way to remotely shut off all holoprojectors in a room. whereas to shut a synth off you need to get close eneugh to push the off button. And if a android doesn't want you doing that, you're not going to do it. which brings up another flaw with androids in trek now that I think about it. they're over engineered. androids are designed to be too good at everything, instead of say... adapted for a specialist role.
  • lasoniolasonio Member Posts: 490 Arc User
    I think it could be possible to move us to that universe for a storyline. I mean we have time travel and different spaces and multiverses. So i don't think it would be too hard to make it work.

    But on the synths and android and holograms thing it would be hard to justify not giving them freedom and autonomy and i also feel if you give them a fail safe or an on off button that would go against the very core of freedom and autonomy. Though with holograms i think it would be harder since it would be hard to prove they are living things. Atleast androids and synths can with enough work reach a lovel inwhich they could be considered living.... even produce offspring.... but i find it harder to prove holograms can.

    But I also feel that it wouldn't take long to actually over populate with them either and eventually humans will pretty much become extent in just time, even if there is no war between them... which also seems inevitable.... have portable emp's i guess...
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  • captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    if androids have freedom and autonomy though.... why build them at all? presumably androids take a fair bit of resources to make, thats a lot of expendaure for something might might decide to just take off and play tenis instead of doing the job you built it to do.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    I thought this thread was about Picard possibly appearing in STO at some point? Discussion of the synthetic uprising from STP seems more appropriate for the STP discussion thread that's pinned in Ten Forward.
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    Yes, let's not derail the thread. Thank you.
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