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10th Anniversary Legacy Starship Bundles!

ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael Member, Administrator Posts: 2,674 Community Manager
The next two ships in our Legendary Starship Bundles have been revealed! Find out more here:

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11355993
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  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,666 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2020
    I was really surprised by the Kelvin Connie with 5 Fore Weapons & 10.5 Base Turn Rate; they really focused on improving it's Turn Rate, and also more Intel 'Specialist' Seats for sure.

    NOTE: Was a bit confused by the Starship Trait as listing Miracle Worker abilities to PROC, yet the Ship itself is Intel. Still I think this was likely intentional and not an error, given that it's designed to earn the Trait while in a Miracle Worker Ship. As it then calls in your Kelvin Intel when activating ENG or MW abilities from them. Certainly should be well received by those who enjoy Miracle Worker Ships for sure!

    I also think the Ody Variant has some nice additions as well.

    Can't wait to see what other ships will reveal over the next few days! <3
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    Per Kael, ships will not be available individually.
    Bundle will also only be available for a limited time, but will return at some point in the future.

    Edit: BMR I understand that Kellmg was a bit toxic and that those parts needed to be removed, but his post did also contain valuable information that potential customers should be aware of while deciding if they will be making the purchase. I don't remember his exact wording, but I've approximated the important part that I was responding to in the above quote.
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  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    I can understand Cryptic wanting us to buy the complete bundle instead of buying individually, it's more profit for them. From a buyer's position I don't want to buy something I won't use.

    Has Cryptic added the extra starship trait's description yet for this Defiant? I noticed the details are included on the other 3 so far, but wasn't with the Defiant.

    They are some "pretty" ships I'll concede that though there's a lot I don't agree with in this bundle.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    He made it sound likely that they would be available individually at some point, but nothing is decided right now and he couldn't commit to a timetable for that either. He did make it sound like it would be a long wait for an individual purchase if that does ever happen, cause he said he wouldn't wait for that possibility if you really want these ships now.
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  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    He made it sound likely that they would be available individually at some point, but nothing is decided right now and he couldn't commit to a timetable for that either. He did make it sound like it would be a long wait for an individual purchase if that does ever happen, cause he said he wouldn't wait for that possibility if you really want these ships now.

    None of that makes me feel any better about any of this.
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,666 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2020
    NOTE: <3
    The T6 Galaxy called a different name called the T6 Andromedia Exploration Cruiser : T6 Yamato Class Dreadnough; or the Defiant called the T6 Tactical Escort Valliant. Also you can purchase 3 T6 Odyssey individually or in a 3 pack, each with their own skin just not the new T6 one, though it also unlocks the T5 Skin as well. So don't think it's an all or nothing thing either, I think they've got a great mix going into this pack. There are likely a few other close variations for individual sale as they reveal more. <3

    Still the big offering is really including all previous consoles, and some new Skins which is another Highlight. I think the most notable improvement is the Specialist Seating arrangements for sure, or some other slight tweaks here as noted about the Kelvin Connie's turn rate above.

    I perhaps like you, can't or choose not to spend that much. Still I'm mostly admiring all the New Skins in this pack, and just excited to really see what else it offer, even if I may never get to fly 'some' of them, still there are some close variations available.
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  • allyoftheforceallyoftheforce Member Posts: 735 Arc User
    Sorry, can't justify more ships with ensign seats at this point. They shouldn't be there anymore.
  • sierra078sierra078 Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    I never expected an Intel Connie. There is just no lore or mechanical reason for it. Command, Miracle worker and Temporal all made sense though. Maybe they'll finally give us an Intrepid with a Ltcmdr Tac/Uni station.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    Surprising they don't come with a new Console, just the previous ones.
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  • tilartatilarta Member Posts: 1,798 Arc User
    What exactly is in this bundle aside from the skins that makes it so special?

    But honestly, looking at the listed price without discount, it's 300$.
    $190 with discount.
    Assuming I got my C-points>$$$ conversion ratio correct, I may have not.

    In my personal opinion, that's too much money to spend on this game, especially factoring in AUD>USD exchange rate.
    Two other players saw that price and said it was too much for them as well.

    Also, I couldn't see the actual bundle in the store?
    Is it bugged like the Picard bundle in that having one of those items disables it from view in the store?
    Or is it intentionally hidden if you have something included in the bundle already unlocked?

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  • voodoopokeyvoodoopokey Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    By default accounts can only purchase $200 USD worth of ZEN every 48 hours, which normally gets you 23,000 ZEN.

    This means that the non-discounted bundles, and even the discounted price for the premium bundle, fall outside the limits that a normal account can actually purchase... meaning to actually purchase these bundles there needs to be a major ZEN charge bonus, or users need to contact support and have their account purchase limits raised, or users need to make ZEN purchases over the course of 3 days.

    I'm not "trolling" here, I'm just pointing out that it doesn't seem like a very pragmatic system. The pricing should stay within the limits of what people are allowed to buy in a single sitting OR the bundles should be sold outside of the ZEN system altogether so as not to highlight the incompatibility of high-priced items in a capped purchase environment.
  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    This is disappointing that there is not a single science ship and they are all tactical aligned why not Voyager Bundle and why give the Odyssey instead of at least one KDF ship once again this game is horribly one sided and has become Star Trek Federation online and is based more on Tactical captains and not for other captains. I will keep my money.
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    I would guess if they did warship voyager as a separate ship rather than just a skin for the current intrepid which can now ALREADY be selected could end up being a sci ship but with tac as secondary similar to the Lukari scout ship or T6 tac Vesta for a few examples, maybe with an extra weapon slot at the front.
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  • redwren89redwren89 Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    Are you really going to justify that pricing when you're charging for stuff we won't use?

    Come on, you're not catering for the people who may for example just want to buy an updated Galaxy. Lets put that bundle aside for a moment whilst we talk about the Galaxy. Its long overdue a spruce after cryptic releases newer c-store ships with far superior stats for the same price. How dare you charge us more just to bring our favourite ships on par with them, without giving us A another new console, B more slots for these 10 starship traits C an explanation as to why you haven't released updated non-federation faction ships D the ability to buy these ships separately because come on we don't all want to buy every single ship if we're just using 1 or 2.

    What is this 'if you want an updated ship to be on par with current c store ship stats you have to pay for all this other stuff' BS.

    Sort this out!
  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    I'm hoping some of the older consoles will get passives attached. That'd help a lot.
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  • mikeblackwolfmikeblackwolf Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    hahahah no
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,659 Arc User
    What if you already got the kelvin connie, do we still get the new skins, and such?
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,385 Arc User
    What if you already got the kelvin connie, do we still get the new skins, and such?
    You already have the options for the Intrepid, Defiant, Sovereign and Galaxy hull materials.

    But no options for the Beyond model, at least for now.
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  • voodoopokeyvoodoopokey Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    robeasom wrote: »
    This is disappointing that there is not a single science ship and they are all tactical aligned why not Voyager Bundle and why give the Odyssey instead of at least one KDF ship once again this game is horribly one sided and has become Star Trek Federation online and is based more on Tactical captains and not for other captains. I will keep my money.

    So far, you mean. They've only shown 4 of the 10 ships at this point. Of the four, only one is really tactically aligned... the rest are engineering focused. 12 more days until the packs are available, you may want to see what the other 6 ships are before levying too much criticism at what is or is not being included. I'm sure there will be plenty of room for that once the details are provided ;)

  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,385 Arc User
    Assuming the Intrepid-class will get the Legendary treatment, I hope they will fix the windows, because:
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    Assuming the Intrepid-class will get the Legendary treatment, I hope they will fix the windows, because:
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    Ok that is just embarrassingly bad.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    So there's frost on the windows. It gets really cold outside. :)
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    robeasom wrote: »
    This is disappointing that there is not a single science ship and they are all tactical aligned why not Voyager Bundle and why give the Odyssey instead of at least one KDF ship once again this game is horribly one sided and has become Star Trek Federation online and is based more on Tactical captains and not for other captains. I will keep my money.

    The Odyssey is there because all of those ships (even if one is a mythical ship from a "future" episode) are the "hero ships" of various series, movies, and the one comic that seems to have been at least semi-canonized. There would not be a KDF ship there because there has been no canon works where a Klingon ship is the primary protagonist ship (except for maybe "The Voyage Home", and the TOS crew is still associated with the Constitution class ships, not the Klingon scout despite using one temporarily).
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
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    robeasom wrote: »
    This is disappointing that there is not a single science ship and they are all tactical aligned why not Voyager Bundle and why give the Odyssey instead of at least one KDF ship once again this game is horribly one sided and has become Star Trek Federation online and is based more on Tactical captains and not for other captains. I will keep my money.

    I have a suspicion that there will be at least one science vessel, possibly two depending on what they do with one particular ship.
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,378 Arc User
    edited February 2020
    > @foppotee#4552 said:
    > I can understand Cryptic wanting us to buy the complete bundle instead of buying individually, it's more profit for them.
    >

    I could be missing something, but I don't think I agree. The people who are going to buy the whole bundle are going to do so anyway, but those who can't afford the bundle might still buy some of the ships if they could be purchased individually. Therefore there is over all more profit in allowing individual purchases, right?
    I have no intention of being ugly about it, but I was ready to buy at least a couple of ships for the anniversary. I'm used to being able to do that.
    I'm really disappointed.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    djf021 wrote: »
    The people who are going to buy the whole bundle are going to do so anyway

    I'm buying the bundle, but if individual purchase was an option I probably (depends on pricing of the individual ships) wouldn't be because there are only 2-4 ships in the pack that I actually want.
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    djf021 wrote: »
    The people who are going to buy the whole bundle are going to do so anyway

    I'm buying the bundle, but if individual purchase was an option I probably (depends on pricing of the individual ships) wouldn't be because there are only 2-4 ships in the pack that I actually want.

    I'll echo this. I want half the pack at best based on what has been leaked/misrevealed/whatever. Unfortunately I apparently have to buy the whole thing, so I'm still not completely decided on actually doing so.
  • nikolunusnikolunus Member Posts: 162 Arc User
    These packs make my head hurt, its the Big Disco pack all over again. For those of us that have been playing for a good chunk of time, the odds are we have many if not most of the ships offered or going to be offered aside from lock box ships that might be in this pack. Cryptic/Perfect World really does need to add in a discount if you have the base version of these ships, it really is paying for the same ships over again if you already have the older version and the consoles they offer up.

    Also the marketing on this is horrid the trickle of information is off-putting, I feel for the Dev's that are going to catch a lot of flack from the playerbase over this.
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