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My Thoughts About the Cyclic Modulation Ground Weaponry Pack
devencombs
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I played the Borg Resurgence event and claimed the Cyclic Modulation Ground Weaponry Pack. I used the pack against the Borg on Defera and in the "Into the Hive" TFO. Overall, I am less than impressed.
When using any of the cyclic weapons, when the Borg adapt to one of the energy types, switching to a new energy type takes about 2 seconds or so before you can start firing again. Compare this to the instant remodulation of the Phaser Battle Rifle when using the MACO set. Furthermore, once the Borg have adapted to all the energy types that the cyclic weapon can fire, you still have to remodulate, either by using a basic 4-second remodulator, the enhanced 3-second remodulator, or the instant MACO remodulator. If you're going to use energy weapons against the Borg, your best bet is the MACO set with the Phaser Battle Rifle and instant remodulator.
My favorite weapon against the Borg and any other ground enemy is the TR-166b Sniper Rifle and the Zeframe Cochrane Shotgun. Kinetic weapons ignore shields, and the Borg cannot adapt to them. In my opinion, they are the most valuable ground weapons in the game.
However, I can see where the cyclic weapons can be useful. If you have a personal endeavor that requires ground based tetryon damage for example, go to a ground invasion zone, switch your cyclic weapon to tetryon, and start firing. Your endeavor will be completed in no time. Just make sure the ground invasion zone is not Defera.
So what are your thoughts?
When using any of the cyclic weapons, when the Borg adapt to one of the energy types, switching to a new energy type takes about 2 seconds or so before you can start firing again. Compare this to the instant remodulation of the Phaser Battle Rifle when using the MACO set. Furthermore, once the Borg have adapted to all the energy types that the cyclic weapon can fire, you still have to remodulate, either by using a basic 4-second remodulator, the enhanced 3-second remodulator, or the instant MACO remodulator. If you're going to use energy weapons against the Borg, your best bet is the MACO set with the Phaser Battle Rifle and instant remodulator.
My favorite weapon against the Borg and any other ground enemy is the TR-166b Sniper Rifle and the Zeframe Cochrane Shotgun. Kinetic weapons ignore shields, and the Borg cannot adapt to them. In my opinion, they are the most valuable ground weapons in the game.
However, I can see where the cyclic weapons can be useful. If you have a personal endeavor that requires ground based tetryon damage for example, go to a ground invasion zone, switch your cyclic weapon to tetryon, and start firing. Your endeavor will be completed in no time. Just make sure the ground invasion zone is not Defera.
So what are your thoughts?
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I admit, they look pretty cool.
Their one 'claim to fame' is fighting the Borg and they're like the 9th best weapon in the game against the Borg. I'll stick with the Thompson, TR-116B, Cochrane Shotgun, etc. If I want an energy Weapon, I'll go with the MACO or the Omega Carbine.. all better options then these weapons.
At least they unpack as level appropriate items so should I ever make another alt, they'll be great for leveling up.
Is the Thompson available through the Phoenix box? I missed that one, which is a crying shame given how much I loved that episode of STNG...
Yes it is.
And it's fantastic!
> TR-116 and the Shottygun are a great combo against the Borg, I agree. And big thanks for the idea about achievements!
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> Is the Thompson available through the Phoenix box? I missed that one, which is a crying shame given how much I loved that episode of STNG...
If you really want to have fun with the Thompson, I suggest a covert assault drone. It fires a bolt for all damage you do instead of shots you fire, so it fires on all of the rapid fire shots from the Thompson.
Also, despite being phaser damage, when I first tried it out on defera the Borg never adapted to it, probably considered an NPC for that.
Hit secondary fire and it's probably the deadliest weapon combo I've used in a long time...pretty standard for me now.
So, the main interest of the weapon isn't even fully used in-game?
UGH.
Of course, the thompson and zefram shotgun make literally every other ground weapon in the game obsolete, not only against Borg. They ignore shields, of every enemy. They are the superior weapon choice all the time.
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Used them once in a borg tfo, and swapped back to the old anti-borg stuff I used. If they removed teh modulate the smack option with riffle but would be more effective against borg.
However, for non borg encounters they are fun and usefull. The fact they modulate always phaser-disruptor-plasma-who cares-who cares-who cares makes them reliable for what damage u want to do.
People leveling up new alts or future recruit events have a new weapon they can claim when leveling up, and supply their boff team.
Fail for the intended Borg, Succes for fun and new chars. Works as intended.
Is it a replacement for the Thomson, TR or leck's knives if i KNOW i am going to face off against Borg?
No, but otherwise they are useful weapons.
Might be useful on boffs.
I pretty much just shoot everything with the boolean and it always dies in one crit or two non crit hits and i don't really have a problem switching weapons when needed on the ground so this was just an event for me to gain more dil.
Agreed. In fact, I thought that was what it would do.
Admittedly I've not tested them on boffs but it'd be intresting to see if they cmod constantly or they treat it as a regular old weapon of whatever flavour it starts at
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I looked for the Thompson in the Phoenix "store" yesterday and I could not find it...
OH yeah, because I'm going to rush right out and spend 60 USD on that silly bundle, sure.
Try Lecks Knives (my personal favourite, gotten from the best mission in sto) or the shotgun from the phoenix box then - the knives require a little more finesse (shorter range, the secondary does the same damage even if its the only target so its a true multi target only secondary) but they are wonderful when you get used to them
The shotgun works well if you treat it like a shorter range pulsewave - you want to be up close and personal
In my opinion the best way to run kinetic without the tommy gun is to have a TR sniper in one slot and the shotgun/knives in the other then practice switching between them as needed
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My character Tsin'xing
I can only think:
1) Not everyone has the MACO set (I do on one of my characters).
2) It's still faster that using a replicated remodulation device.
3) They didn't want to invalidate or give a reason to no longer obtain the MACO ground set.
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There is simply zero reason to use anything that isn't immune to adaptation against the borg at all.
They are for...getting the "do X type damage on ground" endeavors without switching weapons. Nothing else.
Don't get me wrong, that's actually a better reason to exist than a lot of other event trinkets. But it's got nothing to do with the borg.
Pretty much. We've circumvented Borg energy adaptation long, long ago.
Why? Check the new borg updates
If you hammer a borg with shield bypassing stuff they can steal the shield of other borgs to heal their hp - but if they have shield damage it does not occur
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Last night I upgraded Leck's Throwing Knives and the CMod Compression Pistol and went to Defera to check them out. The Knives were great (I normally use the TR-116B or Thompson), the CMod not so great. I was expecting an auto CMod. After I beamed back up I read the More Details and realized I had to press 3 to invoke it. I went back and tried it again. It worked well.
You know, with them being over secretive about this they let the CMod weapons get trashed in the Forums where they could have blunted all of that with communication instead of springing a change to the Borg with the Patch Notes on execution.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Indeed...if it was me, I would have made some blog posts about a tfo group who infiltrated a borg cube only to learn the borg there had adapted and gained many new tricks - the tr rifles equipped to the team falling short as the borg regenerated their health from others shields - Luckily the team were testing cmod weapons at the time as well which proved valuable as it prevented this healing ability as [insert technobabble about shield harmonics interation with structural fiels]
Maybe even add to the log references to the other new abilities such as the terror of the protodrone ambush that caught a few of the team and the assimilation innoculations now proving futile as they were swiftly brought under hive control
If they had done that, we could have understood why the weapons were so valuable and why you wanted them (I have several friends who skipped the event who are now lamenting not doing it as they thought it was a lackluster weapon system)
If your guy is a tac, the knives, trajectory bending and the Risa tac power (gravimetric shear, I think) is an awesome combination - The new(ish) disco melee headset is pretty epic too as you can treat engage like the knife primary (and engage punching so hard you make a gravitational rupture from a mobs face never gets old)
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Thanks for the tip...somehow I had overlooked that drone. Combine that drone with Thompson secondary fire (and Thomson gun has +100 crit severity) plus Trajectory Bending (another +100 crit severity) on a character that has 40% crit chance, pretty much everything melts (though it kinda did even without the drone, I never complain about more dps).