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bigduke66bigduke66 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
Hi
I need recommendations for a Romulan T6 ship as I feel pretty lost in the mass of ships.
Must have:
- Romulan ship(no Suliban or other race design)
- No Escort/Flightdeck/Carrier/Science ships
with regards

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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    Well, you've eliminated 95% of the RRW ship roster. Your only options are therefore the D'khellera, the Deleth, or the Miracle Worker Cruisers.

    Personally I only have the D'khellera of those. It is a T6 D'deridex, so is one of the most Romulan of Romulan ships in the game. It comes in a cross faction pack with the T6 Galasxy and Negh'var. The D'khellera does have a strong science potential, but is definitely not a science ship. You might want its predecessors in the T5 or T4 store versions for the console set.

    The Deleth is the Romulan equivalent to the T6 Miranda, and also comes in a cross faction pack. The Miranda I do have and is a fun ship, so I presume the Deleth is pretty close to it. It can be close in playstyle to an escort as a light cruiser.

    Finally the MW ships I know nothing about besides the fact they are the ugliest ducks. They also come in a mega bundle with the MW ships for the other factions.

    Personally I'd say the D'khellera if you don't mind sluggish ships, or the Deleth if you want something more maneuverable.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    If you change your mind about warbirds, look at the Kholhr Temporal Warbird:

    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Kholhr_Temporal_Warbird

  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
    I hate to say it but you did kinda eliminate most of the Romulan roster as they are rather tac heavy.

    However... there are a couple warbirds that I have experience with that may work for you.
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Aelahl_Light_Warbird_Battlecruiser
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Deleth_Advanced_Light_Warbird_Battlecruiser

    Unlike the earlier mentioned T6 D'Deridex, these two have some decent maneuverability. My experience with the T6 D'Deridex has been mixed on the maneuverability. If you're willing to venture a bit into a bit of an Escort angle...
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Morrigu_Heavy_Warbird
    This ship isn't a bad choice, and also comes with the Emergency Weapon Cycle trait, which is overall useful for most builds.

    If all else fails...
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    Feel free to browse this to see what would fit your preferred style.
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Scimitar...but could it be considered romulan? also has 1 hanger, but it's an official real ship that was in a movie.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
    Technically the Scimitar is Reman. Although there are the variants in game that have a more Romulan asthetic.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    I'm not fond of the space whale Scimitars, but maybe they'd be OK with RCS consoles and pilot spec.
  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 979 Arc User
    I second Morrigu. Good looking, versatile, not a glass cannon but not a sluggish cruiser.
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    bigduke66 wrote: »
    Hi
    I need recommendations for a Romulan T6 ship as I feel pretty lost in the mass of ships.
    Must have:
    - Romulan ship(no Suliban or other race design)
    - No Escort/Flightdeck/Carrier/Science ships
    with regards

    Perhaps it would better if you provided what you want to do with said ship. The desire to not have a flight deck eliminates a lot of the better performing ships in the Romulan roster. Based on the listed criteria:

    -=Tebok=-
    This would be my best recommendation. It's a 4/4 battlecruiser with the potential for 5 tactical consoles. Overall, it's a "big stompy ship"; poor handling, quite tanky, still has good pew-pew. Starship trait is pretty decent as well.

    -=D'Khellra=-
    Basically the T6 D'deridex. If you just want to fly around in one of the most iconic Romulan battleships, here you go. It doesn't particularly excel at anything, but you can also do a little bit of everything at the same time.

    -=Aelahl=-
    Similar to the D'deridex, but more maneuverable. Doesn't really excel at anything, but it does look and feel nice to fly around in. Console is kind of fun to mess around with.

    -=Morrigu=-
    While this might technically go into the "Escort" Category, the handling behaves closer to a Destroyer. 5 Tac consoles and an excellent Starship Trait.
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
    edited January 2020
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    The Morrigu.

    It has a really...REALLY good trait. The ship itself has good stats. The console it comes with is a good one to keep around and if you combine it with the valdore console...which you really should get, it has a good 2 set bonus. Also, it looks nice...at least I think so.
    the THREE console set is good, and the Morrigu is one of my favorites to fly. I also like the heavy destroyer and the taclical command cruiser.
    and if you don't minde a little self inflicted death, a T'varo (or whatever the T6 varient is) submarine with the beach ball of death is fun to fly
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    The Morrigu.

    It has a really...REALLY good trait. The ship itself has good stats. The console it comes with is a good one to keep around and if you combine it with the valdore console...which you really should get, it has a good 2 set bonus. Also, it looks nice...at least I think so.
    This is all that needs to be said. If I were forced to choose 1 Romulan ship from all the ones I own, The Morrigu would hands down be the one.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    If you want performance, I don't care what anyone says.. the Scimitar is still the king. Very versatile, high firepower, great durability, it's biggest fault is the horrible inertia rating.

    The Morrigu is also just a spectacular ship and highly overlooked. Another ship that can do everything and do it well.

    If you're looking for a beam oriented cruiser, I like the Vastam a lot.

    Overall, the Scimitar remains my favorite ship in STO for running Elite Maps, both the Engineering and Tactical Version are monsters.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    I can only underline what Sea said.

    The Scim has been the king performer under the faw meta for ages. Cannons work on it as well, the flagship set is super great and there is sadly no sub faction specific version of the Gagarin for Roms.

    I want to keep my 12 toons as versatile as possible which means one of them “has” to fly a rom ship. Up until today I did not find a better one as the scim.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited January 2020
    and if you don't minde a little self inflicted death, a T'varo (or whatever the T6 varient is) submarine with the beach ball of death is fun to fly


    Which is why I recommend the Malem, in that case: it doesn't come with the 'red ball of death' that tends to blow up in your own face, but rather has an improved one (but less hilarious).
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    I totally agree with everyone suggesting Morrigu and the Scimitars, but unless the OP is more flexible on the no escorts and no flight deck thing, and arguably the Romulan only thing since the Scimitar is originally a Reman design, I don't see those as options that satisfy that requirement.
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    The Morrigu.

    It has a really...REALLY good trait. The ship itself has good stats. The console it comes with is a good one to keep around and if you combine it with the valdore console...which you really should get, it has a good 2 set bonus. Also, it looks nice...at least I think so.
    the THREE console set is good, and the Morrigu is one of my favorites to fly. I also like the heavy destroyer and the taclical command cruiser.
    and if you don't minde a little self inflicted death, a T'varo (or whatever the T6 varient is) submarine with the beach ball of death is fun to fly

    Not sold on the three piece set bonus worth the loss of a console slot to equip the rather useless mogai refit console.

    If you are flying a Scimitar or other slug of a ship, and want more turn rate its not a waste of a console, it is basically a disco rep Pax RCS console with the 3 piece bonus. You can start running out of console slots quickly, though, with Romulan ships and their interesting sets.
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,412 Arc User
    edited January 2020
    My suggestion is to perhaps expand on your ship categories since Romulan ships are fairly unique with the lower subsystem power levels, singularity cores and abilities, battle cloaks/enhanced and DHC access.

    Almost all Romulan ships can be flown by any faction now, and it's hard to find worthwhile starship traits, so be sure to consider that too when selecting one.

    Also aesthetics matters: hard to get bored of flying one ship all the time if it is to your liking.

    Morrigu to me fits every one of those categories, and also can use the Tier 3 Valdore skin if owned, plus its console [Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator] is still great and fits the set bonus.

    Otherwise, Kholhr is pretty powerful warship warbird despite temporal spec catering to science ships, and can still power them up with 4x Sci console slots plus LtC Sci.

    Also, why not do something very unique with the Multi-Mission Warbird Science ships, which come with Aux-Powered Plasma DHC, and they can support the T5 Vesta consoles if you own them and your Rom is Fed aligned. Science is more challenging to set up and use, and can be pricey.
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    The Morrigu.

    It has a really...REALLY good trait. The ship itself has good stats. The console it comes with is a good one to keep around and if you combine it with the valdore console...which you really should get, it has a good 2 set bonus. Also, it looks nice...at least I think so.
    the THREE console set is good, and the Morrigu is one of my favorites to fly. I also like the heavy destroyer and the taclical command cruiser.
    and if you don't minde a little self inflicted death, a T'varo (or whatever the T6 varient is) submarine with the beach ball of death is fun to fly

    Not sold on the three piece set bonus worth the loss of a console slot to equip the rather useless mogai refit console.

    If you are flying a Scimitar or other slug of a ship, and want more turn rate its not a waste of a console, it is basically a disco rep Pax RCS console with the 3 piece bonus. You can start running out of console slots quickly, though, with Romulan ships and their interesting sets.

    You can't get the 3 piece bonus on a scimmy. The mogai refit console is locked to the mogai line of ships.

    It has been a while since I played with that console, admittedly, but I do not recall that at all, and I have a habit of using my Romulans' old T5 Scimitars as storage for various Romulan set consoles that I don't use on current ships. The wiki does not agree with you either, but it could be wrong.

    I'll double check that in game when I can.
  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    While I agree that the Morrigu is a great ship, I would like to point out that the OP specified they wanted (among other things) something that's not an escort, which rules out the Morrigu. Taking into account all of their caveats, their options are the D'Khellra, Aelahl, Deleth, and the Miracle Worker warbirds.
  • umiharayuuumiharayuu Member Posts: 180 Arc User
    I'm another Morrigu fan (Though I upgraded to the Fleet version). It can run easily more than one role and is pretty beastly. The console is nice esp. if you want to forego a shield skill, and works on the Fleet version obviously.
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  • bigduke66bigduke66 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited January 2020
    Just to be sure as some mention that I eliminated most of the roster:
    I want NO Escort/Flightdeck/Carrier/Science ships.
    So the majority of the Romulan ships are still in the pool.

    Besides, these exclusions are based on the classification used on the wiki, just for those that think a Morrigu is an Escort, it is listed under Warbirds and not under Escorts so there seems to be no problem with that recommendation.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited January 2020
    bigduke66 wrote: »
    Just to be sure as some mention that I eliminated most of the roster:
    I want NO Escort/Flightdeck/Carrier/Science ships.
    So the majority of the Romulan ships are still in the pool.

    Besides, these exclusions are based on the classification used on the wiki, just for those that think a Morrigu is an Escort, it is listed under Warbirds and not under Escorts so there seems to be no problem with that recommendation.

    Use the Scimitar.

    If the hangar bothers you that much, leave it empty and don't use it, it's only a 'carrier' if you make it one.

    Otherwise, use the Morrgu it's about the only ship that fits your list.

    If the suggestions given aren't what you're looking for then you can feel free to browse the entire list of Romulan ships here. It does seem however, like you're trying to make sure no ship fits your criteria.
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    edited January 2020
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    The Morrigu.

    It has a really...REALLY good trait. The ship itself has good stats. The console it comes with is a good one to keep around and if you combine it with the valdore console...which you really should get, it has a good 2 set bonus. Also, it looks nice...at least I think so.
    the THREE console set is good, and the Morrigu is one of my favorites to fly. I also like the heavy destroyer and the taclical command cruiser.
    and if you don't minde a little self inflicted death, a T'varo (or whatever the T6 varient is) submarine with the beach ball of death is fun to fly

    Not sold on the three piece set bonus worth the loss of a console slot to equip the rather useless mogai refit console.

    If you are flying a Scimitar or other slug of a ship, and want more turn rate its not a waste of a console, it is basically a disco rep Pax RCS console with the 3 piece bonus. You can start running out of console slots quickly, though, with Romulan ships and their interesting sets.

    You can't get the 3 piece bonus on a scimmy. The mogai refit console is locked to the mogai line of ships.

    So I did check and no it is not locked to the Mogais, its Warbird as the wiki indicates. Though some consoles are definitely locked to a ship or line of ship, the ionized particle beam isn't one of them.
    bigduke66 wrote: »
    Just to be sure as some mention that I eliminated most of the roster:
    I want NO Escort/Flightdeck/Carrier/Science ships.
    So the majority of the Romulan ships are still in the pool.

    Besides, these exclusions are based on the classification used on the wiki, just for those that think a Morrigu is an Escort, it is listed under Warbirds and not under Escorts so there seems to be no problem with that recommendation.

    You need to explain why you want certain ship types excluded then. It doesn't make sense to exclude escorts but somehow warbirds are okay when warbirds are functionally identical to escorts.
  • bigduke66bigduke66 Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    Can't follow why these few points seem to be a problem to some.
    - Only Escort is of Devian source, what drops out anyway as I want to Romulan ship.
    - A lot ships have hangar bays but it's still a minority.
    - And science vessels seem to be rare on the Romulan side, at least compared to the many types that the Federation uses.

    Sure the list gets shorter compared to what is playable as Romulan but that is the point.
  • captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    then yeah get the Morrigui (or whatever the T6 mogai is called) it's a fantastic ship. the thing is, "no escorts" makes people assume you dislike that play style. and the Mogai's are basicly escorts in how they play.
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    then yeah get the Morrigui (or whatever the T6 mogai is called) it's a fantastic ship. the thing is, "no escorts" makes people assume you dislike that play style. and the Mogai's are basicly escorts in how they play.

    This. Really it helps to know why you don't want these ships since its confusing. I assumed it was the playstyle you don't like, but now I don't really know.

    Maybe half of the warbirds are escorts. Bigger warbirds like the D'deridex and its relatives are more like cruisers. The only real difference is that "Warbird" is a deliberately broad classification unique to Romulans that lets them use a lot of various console sets from their ships. The Valdore console is the prime example of this, a console that can go on nearly every Romulan ship because it can fit on "warbirds" and it is a great console to have.

    So without knowing more, the Morrigu is easily the single best value ship in the Romulan lineup. Not only is it a good ship on its own, but it has one of the best ship traits in the game, and because of the recent change that lets any faction get Romulan ships, all characters on your account can use the Morrigu to learn this trait. You'll probably want the Valdore too at some point which is the T3 version of the Morrigu, for its console which is part of a set with the Morrigu console.

    If you want more Rommie ships after that, the T6 scimitars are a good bundle to grab, and the best performing Romulan ships, if you can get past the flight decks.

    If you want cheap, consider the starter pack that offers the T6 Malem at a mere 2000 zen. The other 2000 zen starter pack offers the T5 and T1 versions which have consoles that form a set with the T6, so don't get them confused unless you want them all.
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