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Ten Forward Weekly 12/11/2019
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- Jette is most definitely aren't announcing T8 Millennium Falcon.
- If boff ability exists, it'll show up in lieutenant commander tab, it is where all of them overlap.
- DOMINO is the most slot-efficient damage console, but damage only.
- Jette sees no reason not to slot Dynamic Power Redistribution Module (from Atlas Prototype Dreadnought Cruiser) and as a designer she sees a problem with that.
- There's an obscure consumable "deuterium surplus" that's basically Evasive Manurers consumable in terms of buffs. Jette felt that she needed to mention it.
- After you get first from Defence Contract mission, you'll get ability to craft additional ones.
- By Jette's opinion, that mission is really "not the most shining recent content" (just liked the phrase).
- Mobility is important to DPS, in terms of "moving to new target" and less time between engagements.
- Ambush bonus only applies if you were cloaked for some (3?) seconds.
- They are thinking about how to rework command abilities, but no ETA yet.
- Mike is really satisfied by his 95 turn rate.
- While Mike was setting up Vengence, they remembered its bug and then Jette remembered one that made tzenkethi escort bigger than DS9.
- Jette talked about refined dilithium transfer.
- It's when you post dilithium for selling on dilithium exchange for stupidly low price and then cancel offer while on the other character and withdraw the dilithium.
- Jette recently brought up concept of letting you transfer it normally with account bank.
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It's not anywhere near the top of my wish list, but that would be a nice little quality of life improvement. It would also save a few people from messing up and actually selling the dil when they don't want to.
And as an employee for a company selling in game power as business practice?
Hm... lets make it another Plasmonic Leech occasion and act suprised in the name of game balance all shal we. God the comedy aspect of those boys (and girls?) is just awsome. Perfect for a good laugh when all credibility is long thrown out the window anyway so thanks for passing it on.
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l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
It would also be nice to mail ECs or refined dilithium to other people. Such as if one has a couple of accts, from one acct to the other. Or simply if they wanted to help out a friend.
Did you suggest doing it with *refined* dil or unrefined?
Unrefined would lead to even worse dilflation than we have now.
Yeah, cause there is absolutely no precedent at all for Cryptic allowing something to be OP until it stops selling and then nerfing it right?
There is a perfectly good reason not to slot DPRM.
It costs 600M+ to obtain.
It's a 'high end' item with a high end price tag that also fuels the sales of the Atlas which probably makes Cryptic quite a few bucks. But of course, Jette doesn't like it.. so I'm sure it will get nerfed into the ground.
It's an excellent console.. better hurry up and make it worthless. As usual, there will be no consideration for players that extended a large amount of resources to obtain it.. we must pretend that balance is an issue in a PvE only game.
If you have the Atlas console, then what Jette said is accurate. There is no reason NOT to slot it. Kinda the same with the DOMINO if you're running phaser. No reason NOT to slot it. For most high end builds, they tend to be essential.
I don't see anything saying "nerf it into the ground". All I see is a personal opinion, and everyone is entitled to their opinions.
refined, because I thought already that the current way to transfer refined dil from a toon to an other, is just stupidly annoying.
but unrefined dil could have also a purpose but only for the toon owner of this unrefined dil; stuff to buy from the rep store for example or crafting special items. But I would prefer an increase of the per day refining possibility, currently i stockpile unrefined dil, that I would like to use to create builds (protonic polaron for example).
Edit: A game is like a microcosm of society, everyone is jealous of his achievements and is always resistant to change, no matter how small.
Quote from Spartan regarding her comments (which were taken massively out of context) on another reddit thread.
I think that what I was trying to communicate has gotten lost, and I would like to clarify some things.
The DPRM didn't come up unprompted. The stream yesterday was mainly about how to improve Mike's ship build. At one point, we were discussing the various consoles on Mike's ship, and which ones he should keep. One of the consoles on his ship was the DPRM, and so I talked about it, in the context of "you should keep this console on your ship." One of the comments I made was that as a designer, I didn't love the fact that it was nearly always a correct choice for your build. The two things I had intended to communicate in that are "this is nearly always correct on your build and you probably shouldn't take it off, Mike", and "as a designer, I'm trying to avoid making more consoles like this, so players have meaningful choices on what to slot." Most of the loadouts I setup for new ship livestreams feature the DPRM, and in commentary on those, I recall mentioning the DPRM's strength and versatility in the past. I had intended the remarks yesterday to be yet another instance of passing remarks on "yes, this console is worth slotting if you can," and nothing special.
In summary - the DPRM effectiveness in combat is not new information to us, and at this point in time we have no plans to change the console.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/e9ni2h/leave_the_dprm_alone/
Also, I have the DPRM as well. I would have no problem if it is change/nerfed or adapted. This is a MMO, comes with the terrority and this style of game. Its the choice i made to obtain the console, along with all the good things and potentially bad things it may cause.
Thank you for passing that on.
Given their track record though, I don't think anyone should be surprised that the comment drew a lot of concern. Glad they clarified, and thanks to you for passing on the information, it's most appreciated.
To the bold part: Why? The dilithium exchange works just fine for that with transfering dilithium between characters on the same account.
To the bolded, italicized part:
And risk having an influx of refined dil farmers use that option as an opportunity to make cash from that? I can see the message spam increase now.
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That's what would happen. Good intentions with "helping out a friend" often open the gates for something worse. No thanks.
If you're at the point where you're wanting to transfer dilithium from one account to another, maybe it's time you put some more work in on those accounts to generate resources for them.
For EC transfer between friends/accounts, that's what the trade option is for. Or you create a fleet, and use the fleet bank that way. You have tools for that.
Yes, why simplify the process and put this feature where it should be when we already have a method in place that's convoluted and that new players have almost no chance of even figuring out?
Happy to help
This is why i usually browse reddit/official forums/facebook/twitter etc. If i see anything that the other areas havent picked up on or dont know I try to pass it on to ensure cross communication. As i know the devs are extremely busy and sometimes barely have a moment to comment on one area before needing to get back to work.
I have actually had an idea the last couple of weeks regarding reddit and the official forums. Going to give it some thought this weekend.
And around 1%-3% of that for anyone who isn't aligned with Team Blue.
I have the Atlas in the Vaults (along with 3 R&D Promotion Packs, Vengeance, NX, Crossfield, and the T6 Temporal Destroyer). I guess I should look into opening it one of these days.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I see no issue with this. It's up to the player to choose what they want to do, and how much performance they want to get out of it. And what they're going to do to get there. CrypticSpartan's free to have personal opinions. Just has to make sure that they don't dictate the path of the game.
As @seaofsorrows said earlier, price tag if you're pretty much exclusively Team Blue. Or you missed out on the Bajoran bird ship and haven't landed that gold token. There are multiple reasons to not slot it. But I had a feeling something like this would crop up when that thread asking about "go-to console" was posted a while back, and people started burping their answers.
You have a way of doing this. YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS! And if you're constantly stockpiling unrefined dilithium...YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS! Then transfer the refined dil you generate from alts to your Dr. Frankenstein pylon to build that protonic polaron idea. If you're constantly stockpiling unrefined dilithium on one pylon, that's you being inefficient, because of the logjam. To get around the logjam, YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS!
It's not all that convoluted. It takes what, hitting the refine button, going to dilithium exchange, and posting amount up for a selling price of 25 per polished rock you want to sell? And new players can always pipe up and ask, in game, in forum, on reddit or twatter. You of all people know how derp simple this game already is.
"By your command."
If you're building up massive hoards of unrefined dil, it might indeed be a good time to play one of your other characters, or to create a new character.
I am not debating that it's simple.. you're right.. it is.
What it isn't, is obvious. I can't tell you how many times over the years I have answered the question for someone 'how do I transfer Dilithium to my alts?'
The problem isn't difficulty, it's that it's not obvious how it's done and it's something most people won't figure out unless it's explained to them by someone that already knows. Having it in the Account bank right next to where you transfer EC just seems like a much more logical place.
Technically, using the exchange is more of a 'work around' then anything else since it's doubtful that the original intent of the exchange was for people to create unrealistic offers that they could then cancel to use as a method of transfer between characters.
It's not difficult to do, but it can be difficult to figure out for new players. I don't see any downside to moving this function to it's logical place.
In regards to the DPRM, if Jette says they're not changing it at this time then I believe her until they prove otherwise. If they do decide to change it then it will be because the console has become THE answer in all cases similar to why the Plasmonic Leech and Plasma Exploders were changed. Folks forget they weren't changed on a whim, they were changed because every ship, tank, DPS, space wizard, all used them. If you didn't use them then you were doing it wrong. The DPRM is certainly a potent console but it's not yet reached that point of being THE answer in all cases. Not only that but it's a hugely expensive console to obtain depending on faction.
As for the moving dilithium through our account bank, you would be surprised actually how many folks don't know you can move it around via the exchange in game. Had a fleetmate of mine that's been with the game for a few years that had no idea you could do that. I honestly thought he already knew or I would've told him. Stuff like that can make it easier for folks in general to move stuff around without having to worry about putting it in the wrong tab and accidently selling dilithium and/or zen they wish to keep.
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