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shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
edited September 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Did they remove one of the items for the breen space set.
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    foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    The warp/singularity core is available from winter event currency. If you haven't unlocked the store yet, you will just have to wait a few weeks.
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    borg0vermindborg0vermind Member Posts: 498 Arc User
    This set needs an update. It's way underpowered compared to pretty much any other set.
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
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    edited November 2019
    It is not best in slot but it is still perfectly viable, and the eject cryoplasma the full set enables works well for pilot specialized captains doing shield scraping to add some insult to the injury. I am still using the set on two of my captains and they are not handicapped by it to any noticeable degree compared to my others using reputation sets even though it is not completely up to date (though an update pass would be nice if done well).
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    heh, they tweaked it a bit a while back, the shield is a bit weird because it's a type that's not the highest capacity type.
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    sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 5,464 Arc User
    edited November 2019
    Personally, I would rather they put the Breen Warp Core/Singularity Core into one of the Breen missions as opposed to in the Winter Event store. It kind of does not make sense for one of the items to be in the Winter Event store and the others to be part of a mission. That is just me of course. Thanks. :)
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    sthe91 wrote: »
    Personally, I would rather they put the Breen Warp Core/Singularity Core into one of the Breen missions as opposed to in the Winter Event store. It kind of does not make sense for one of the items to be in the Winter Event store and the others to be part of a mission. That is just me of course. Thanks. :)
    that's because the first three parts are OLD and were made before warp cores existed.
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    sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 5,464 Arc User
    markhawkman wrote: »
    sthe91 wrote: »
    Personally, I would rather they put the Breen Warp Core/Singularity Core into one of the Breen missions as opposed to in the Winter Event store. It kind of does not make sense for one of the items to be in the Winter Event store and the others to be part of a mission. That is just me of course. Thanks. :)
    that's because the first three parts are OLD and were made before warp cores existed.

    I know that just wish it was updated and placed in the Breen missions to make it more consistent.
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    avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    I've noticed that parts seem to lack in modifiers.
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    I'd also like to see some minor updates. It's fun to use these "different" sets on characters where it fits the theme.

    One of my captains uses the Tholian space set, space weapons, Tetryon beams. Originally in a Scryer which worked (in my mind) as a Fed - Tholian hybrid ship, but he now has the Tholian T6 ships too.

    I don't mind that the build isn't optimal, it's just fun to teleport a web mine to one victim, use the web cannon on another group, build a web around others.
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    I think part of the problem is that the Breen set is more energy drain than anything else.
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    shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    It appears that the breen shield and impulse you can still get from the mission the deflector is not listed anymore for some reason
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    shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    foxrockssocks wrote: »
    The warp/singularity core is available from winter event currency. If you haven't unlocked the store yet, you will just have to wait a few weeks.

    Have access to that already the breen deflector you cannot get from the mission for some reason
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    darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,715 Community Moderator
    It's honestly not a bad set. It's not going to break uber stupid high end DPS records, but if you want a good set to use that will get you through most anything in game, then that will do it for you. Personally I'm not a fan of the core being tied to the Winter Event store myself as that means there's only one time a year you can get the store open and access to the core if you haven't gotten it already. So anyone coming in after the event is pretty much CoL for an entire year. Capacity helps in shields certainly but it's not always the capacity you have that matters as much as it is your ability to maintain it. Definitely better options if you need more survival and such but otherwise if you just want a good themed set, the Breen set will do you great
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    foppotee#4552 foppotee
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    azrael605 wrote: »
    > @shadowkosh said:
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    > Have access to that already the breen deflector you cannot get from the mission for some reason

    The deflector comes from Cold Call, and its showing in the mission rewards list for me.

    Edit, I'm going to play Cold Call now and confirm whether I can get the deflector or not (besides my DSC toon hasn't played the Breen arc yet). If I can't get it I'll be making a bug report, if I can I'll note it here.

    Edit 2, mission complete and Breen Deflector acquired.

    Good to know for anyone that wants to acquire it now & thanks for verifying by doing the leg-work too.
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    darkbladejk wrote: »
    It's honestly not a bad set. It's not going to break uber stupid high end DPS records, but if you want a good set to use that will get you through most anything in game, then that will do it for you. Personally I'm not a fan of the core being tied to the Winter Event store myself as that means there's only one time a year you can get the store open and access to the core if you haven't gotten it already. So anyone coming in after the event is pretty much CoL for an entire year. Capacity helps in shields certainly but it's not always the capacity you have that matters as much as it is your ability to maintain it. Definitely better options if you need more survival and such but otherwise if you just want a good themed set, the Breen set will do you great
    Isn't it a Resilient shield? they may not have the highest cap but they're still tough.
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    The shield is Resilient, which is arguably the best overall shield type (opinion.)

    The problem with the Shield is that the only extra proc it has is 20% Polaron resist. Compared to other Resilient shields like the Competitive Wargames or the Iconian, it's definitely lackluster to put it mildly.

    It's not total garbage, it's viable.. especially for a mission reward shield. But it should probably be upgraded as soon as possible if you plan on doing anything advanced.
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    darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,715 Community Moderator
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Isn't it a Resilient shield? they may not have the highest cap but they're still tough.

    It is indeed a resilient shield. Typically I prefer resilient shields when I can get them for that extra 5% absorb on them. Basically For that last bit I'm saying capacity isn't everything. Capacity is great to get, but if someone has issues maintaining a higher capacity item, then that extra capacity isn't really helping them and they could do better with a lower capacity item they can keep topped off. Capacity is great to have but not always worth going out of your way over.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
    darkbladejk wrote: »
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Isn't it a Resilient shield? they may not have the highest cap but they're still tough.

    It is indeed a resilient shield. Typically I prefer resilient shields when I can get them for that extra 5% absorb on them. Basically For that last bit I'm saying capacity isn't everything. Capacity is great to get, but if someone has issues maintaining a higher capacity item, then that extra capacity isn't really helping them and they could do better with a lower capacity item they can keep topped off. Capacity is great to have but not always worth going out of your way over.

    Have to agree, Cap isn't as valuable as Regen capability, and there's always plenty of consoles to boost both. And simply having Reverse Shield Polarity in your skills will suffice.
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
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    Another thing about resilient shields is that they do well against the kind of mass wave, death of a thousand papercuts style scenarios that seem to be the new usual thing because they only leak half as much.
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    shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    edited November 2019
    darkbladejk wrote: »
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Isn't it a Resilient shield? they may not have the highest cap but they're still tough.

    It is indeed a resilient shield. Typically I prefer resilient shields when I can get them for that extra 5% absorb on them. Basically For that last bit I'm saying capacity isn't everything. Capacity is great to get, but if someone has issues maintaining a higher capacity item, then that extra capacity isn't really helping them and they could do better with a lower capacity item they can keep topped off. Capacity is great to have but not always worth going out of your way over.
    darkbladejk wrote: »
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Isn't it a Resilient shield? they may not have the highest cap but they're still tough.

    It is indeed a resilient shield. Typically I prefer resilient shields when I can get them for that extra 5% absorb on them. Basically For that last bit I'm saying capacity isn't everything. Capacity is great to get, but if someone has issues maintaining a higher capacity item, then that extra capacity isn't really helping them and they could do better with a lower capacity item they can keep topped off. Capacity is great to have but not always worth going out of your way over.

    I am on a Jem Hadar and I could not aquite the deflector only the engine and shield
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
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    shadowkosh wrote: »
    darkbladejk wrote: »
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Isn't it a Resilient shield? they may not have the highest cap but they're still tough.

    It is indeed a resilient shield. Typically I prefer resilient shields when I can get them for that extra 5% absorb on them. Basically For that last bit I'm saying capacity isn't everything. Capacity is great to get, but if someone has issues maintaining a higher capacity item, then that extra capacity isn't really helping them and they could do better with a lower capacity item they can keep topped off. Capacity is great to have but not always worth going out of your way over.
    darkbladejk wrote: »
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Isn't it a Resilient shield? they may not have the highest cap but they're still tough.

    It is indeed a resilient shield. Typically I prefer resilient shields when I can get them for that extra 5% absorb on them. Basically For that last bit I'm saying capacity isn't everything. Capacity is great to get, but if someone has issues maintaining a higher capacity item, then that extra capacity isn't really helping them and they could do better with a lower capacity item they can keep topped off. Capacity is great to have but not always worth going out of your way over.

    I am on a Jem Hadar and I could not aquite the deflector only the engine and shield

    Were you able to run "Cold Call" or did it skip you directly from "Cold War" to "Out in the Cold"? Sometimes missions seem to accidently skip a scenario for some reason (maybe a side effect of the work they did/are doing on missions or whatever). Anyway, it did that to me once and I had to go back and manually start "Cold Call" to get the deflector.
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    shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    Did all of the breen no skips
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    shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    Ok I am going to log in and check maybe the fixed it
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    shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    The only ones that are showing for me in the Defair he missions to get the brain set are out in the cold cold case cold comfort and cold storage that’s the only one that showing
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    avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    edited November 2019
    A while back I pulled out my Breen ships on my Jem'Hadar and tried to get the Breen set for them, however with the set I found myself dying more than with the default Jem'Hadar set, I also noticed how parts of the Breen set seemed to be lacking a modifier compared to my Jem'Hadar set.
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    vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
    borg0vermind wrote: »
    This set needs an update. It's way underpowered compared to pretty much any other set.
    breen, Adapted Maco /KHGand Omega all need a update. the defera sets would be good with a warp core that unlocks a good set of powers

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    wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    They really do need to update the Breen set, even if it's only a small one like the Jem Hadar set.

    Even with the small update to the set with the Gamma missions, it's now a viable option to use, not for ultra dps builds, but for ADV TFOs, it's now just enough.
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    The Breen have a Warp Core that you can purchase in the Winter Event Store.
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