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I'm a little confused over the 'new' Jem'Hadar event

captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,627 Arc User
edited September 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
From the language used in the promo blogs, it sounds as if there are new items added to the Lifetime Jem'Hadar recruits during this re-run event.

Things like 'new' ships, uniform unlocks, etc. But from what I can see in-game, if you already have an existing Gamma Recruit (Jem'Hadar) there is nothing new.

Anyone out there able to clarify what is meant by 'new'? And if my already existing Lifetime Jem'Hadar should be getting these things too (or do I have to roll another Gamma Recruit to unlock the 'new' features on the old one?)

Thanks in advance for the info!
My consolidated list of game improvements for STO:
arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
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  • swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
    The new items are for people with lifetime accounts and Jem'Hadar characters, not Gamma recruits.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    Three separate news posts about three separate things:

    1. Re-run of the Gamma Recruit event, with no listed changes at all

    2. Lifetime Subscriptions get the Jem'Hadar ship to match the Fed, KDF, Rom T6 ship they already get

    3. Sale on C-Store Jem'Hadar items: the packs, vanguard race, etc.

    There are no "lifetime recruits" just hu-mon players who have Lifetime Subscriptions to the game.

  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,627 Arc User
    swamarian wrote: »
    The new items are for people with lifetime accounts and Jem'Hadar characters, not Gamma recruits.
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Three separate news posts about three separate things:

    <snip>

    2. Lifetime Subscriptions get the Jem'Hadar ship to match the Fed, KDF, Rom T6 ship they already get

    So, I'm still confused.

    I have a Lifetime account. I also have an already existing Jem'Hadar.

    I see nothing new anywhere. Reclaim tab? Promotion tab? Ships tab? Nothing.

    Maybe it's just me and I'm reading more into this that I should.... Or do I need to be a NEW Lifetime Account purchaser to get the new stuff?
    My consolidated list of game improvements for STO:
    arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    captainhunter1 wrote: »
    swamarian wrote: »
    The new items are for people with lifetime accounts and Jem'Hadar characters, not Gamma recruits.
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Three separate news posts about three separate things:

    <snip>

    2. Lifetime Subscriptions get the Jem'Hadar ship to match the Fed, KDF, Rom T6 ship they already get

    So, I'm still confused.

    I have a Lifetime account. I also have an already existing Jem'Hadar.

    I see nothing new anywhere. Reclaim tab? Promotion tab? Ships tab? Nothing.

    Maybe it's just me and I'm reading more into this that I should.... Or do I need to be a NEW Lifetime Account purchaser to get the new stuff?

    I think the vet ships only show up if you go to the acquire a ship people, it's not in any store tab.

    Also, each faction only gets its own ship, not the other ships.
  • themariethemarie Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    I'm more confused as to why they chose to run the Jem'Hadar stuff over again. It is flatout boring and kind of cheapens the Dominion and their place in the scheme of things. Especially when we've barely scratched the surface of what the vastly more interesting JJ-Alt-Verse and Discovery-Verse could contribute to the game.

    Oh lets basically water down the Dominion and make them a semi-faction like the now-ignored Romulans.

    What next? STO Bolian Expansion followed six months later by Star Trek: Bolian Lifetime Experience?
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    edited October 2019
    "Stop liking what I don't like"?

    If you search the forums people requested it, including a thread in the last week. Re-running an existing recruitment event takes nothing away from developing Discovery or Picard content.
  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,100 Arc User
    edited October 2019
    Let's not derail the thread, please.

    The ship can be found at any shipyard, provided you finished the tutorial. Just filter the Tier 6 ships. The very last one - all the way to the right - is the Jem'Hadar Vanguard Heavy Destroyer [T6].
    It does NOT come with wingmen, but it does have the tactical/regenerative mode mechanic and it looks really neat. I tried it out today and was not disappointed. Then again, I love all the other versions (Manticore, Duvqu' and Dinaes) so that was not surprising.
    The uniforms are actually the same for both Fed and Klingon (maybe the booths are slightly different, but I'm not sure) and that was a little disappointing. Still, they use the Disco uniform color palette, so we can finally use the "real black" instead of that watered down version that pretty much every other palette seems to have.​​
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    Not agreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to be an TRIBBLE.

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    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 1,100 Arc User
    Thank you for clearing that out, I missed the bit of info about it.​​
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    Not agreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to be an TRIBBLE.

    Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
    - quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
    - quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;

    Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
    Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,627 Arc User
    jennycolvin wrote: »
    Let's not derail the thread, please.

    The ship can be found at any shipyard, provided you finished the tutorial. Just filter the Tier 6 ships. The very last one - all the way to the right - is the Jem'Hadar Vanguard Heavy Destroyer [T6].
    It does NOT come with wingmen, but it does have the tactical/regenerative mode mechanic and it looks really neat. I tried it out today and was not disappointed. Then again, I love all the other versions (Manticore, Duvqu' and Dinaes) so that was not surprising.
    The uniforms are actually the same for both Fed and Klingon (maybe the boots are slightly different, but I'm not sure) and that was a little disappointing. Still, they use the Disco uniform color palette, so we can finally use the "real black" instead of that watered down version that pretty much every other palette seems to have.​​

    Thank you!

    Finally an answer that clearly addresses my question.

    Now why couldn't have Cryptic simply put a single sentence in their promos to make this clear? "Existing Lifetime accounts with original Jem'Hadar will find the new ships and uniforms in the Shipyard and Tailor respectively". You know, to differentiate this from the 'normal' mechanic of disseminating items to legacy accounts through the Promotions/Reclaim/Store tabs.
    My consolidated list of game improvements for STO:
    arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,309 Community Moderator
    captainhunter1 wrote: »
    jennycolvin wrote: »
    Let's not derail the thread, please.

    The ship can be found at any shipyard, provided you finished the tutorial. Just filter the Tier 6 ships. The very last one - all the way to the right - is the Jem'Hadar Vanguard Heavy Destroyer [T6].
    It does NOT come with wingmen, but it does have the tactical/regenerative mode mechanic and it looks really neat. I tried it out today and was not disappointed. Then again, I love all the other versions (Manticore, Duvqu' and Dinaes) so that was not surprising.
    The uniforms are actually the same for both Fed and Klingon (maybe the boots are slightly different, but I'm not sure) and that was a little disappointing. Still, they use the Disco uniform color palette, so we can finally use the "real black" instead of that watered down version that pretty much every other palette seems to have.​​

    Thank you!

    Finally an answer that clearly addresses my question.

    Now why couldn't have Cryptic simply put a single sentence in their promos to make this clear? "Existing Lifetime accounts with original Jem'Hadar will find the new ships and uniforms in the Shipyard and Tailor respectively". You know, to differentiate this from the 'normal' mechanic of disseminating items to legacy accounts through the Promotions/Reclaim/Store tabs.

    Because LTS Veteran ships and uniforms have never been distributed through the Promotions/Reclaim/Store tabs?
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,343 Arc User
    captainhunter1 wrote: »
    jennycolvin wrote: »
    Let's not derail the thread, please.

    The ship can be found at any shipyard, provided you finished the tutorial. Just filter the Tier 6 ships. The very last one - all the way to the right - is the Jem'Hadar Vanguard Heavy Destroyer [T6].
    It does NOT come with wingmen, but it does have the tactical/regenerative mode mechanic and it looks really neat. I tried it out today and was not disappointed. Then again, I love all the other versions (Manticore, Duvqu' and Dinaes) so that was not surprising.
    The uniforms are actually the same for both Fed and Klingon (maybe the boots are slightly different, but I'm not sure) and that was a little disappointing. Still, they use the Disco uniform color palette, so we can finally use the "real black" instead of that watered down version that pretty much every other palette seems to have.​​

    Thank you!

    Finally an answer that clearly addresses my question.

    Now why couldn't have Cryptic simply put a single sentence in their promos to make this clear? "Existing Lifetime accounts with original Jem'Hadar will find the new ships and uniforms in the Shipyard and Tailor respectively". You know, to differentiate this from the 'normal' mechanic of disseminating items to legacy accounts through the Promotions/Reclaim/Store tabs.

    Because this information is already in the LTS summary page and anyone who had acquired prior Veteran Ships would/should know how to acquire their Jem ship already. Doesn't anyone read the instructions any more??
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    captainhunter1 wrote: »
    Now why couldn't have Cryptic simply put a single sentence in their promos to make this clear? "Existing Lifetime accounts with original Jem'Hadar will find the new ships and uniforms in the Shipyard and Tailor respectively". You know, to differentiate this from the 'normal' mechanic of disseminating items to legacy accounts through the Promotions/Reclaim/Store tabs.

    Seems pretty clear to me. Did you read the page? It says your new LTS uniforms are unlocked upon completing the Jem'Hadar tutorial. Which obviously means your existing character on an LTS account will have them unlocked automatically. The page also says your new ship will be available at the shipyard. So I don't get where the confusion is.

    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11282093
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • sunsunkunsunsunkun Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited October 2019
    Still confused, im returned player, when i stop to play the game, theres only Fed, KDF and Rom, if i got the lifetime i got this items below too?
    • Gamma Vanguard Pack
    • Gamma Vanguard Starter Pack
    • Jem'hadar Vanguard Species
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Heavy Raider
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Dreadnought Cruiser
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Warship
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Carrier
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Temporal Vanguard Warship
    • Jem'Hadar Tactical Uniform
    • Jem'Hadar EV Suit
  • garaks31garaks31 Member Posts: 2,845 Arc User
    nope
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    https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1249570/axanar-locks-in-start-date-for-filming
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    edited October 2019
    sunsunkun wrote: »
    Still confused, im returned player, when i stop to play the game, theres only Fed, KDF and Rom, if i got the lifetime i got this items below too?
    • Gamma Vanguard Pack
    • Gamma Vanguard Starter Pack
    • Jem'hadar Vanguard Species
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Heavy Raider
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Dreadnought Cruiser
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Warship
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Carrier
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Temporal Vanguard Warship

    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11282093

    No, Vanguard is not Veteran. You still need to buy vanguard separately, and create a new character in the vanguard race.

    LTS gets your Jem'Hadar (either plain or vanguard race) a veteran heavy destroyer and a uniform. (They should also be calling it a "veteran" destroyer not Jem'Hadar Vanguard Heavy Destroyer.)


  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    edited October 2019
    Why would they call it a Veteran Destroyer? They don't do that for any other faction, all veteran ships are either Heavy Destroyer or Warbird Destroyer.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    sunsunkun wrote: »
    Still confused, im returned player, when i stop to play the game, theres only Fed, KDF and Rom, if i got the lifetime i got this items below too?
    • Gamma Vanguard Pack
    • Gamma Vanguard Starter Pack
    • Jem'hadar Vanguard Species
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Heavy Raider
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Dreadnought Cruiser
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Warship
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Vanguard Carrier
    • T6 Jem'Hadar Temporal Vanguard Warship
    • Jem'Hadar Tactical Uniform
    • Jem'Hadar EV Suit
    Most of that is in the ship bundle and not an LTS reward. You could save monthly zen to get it though.
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    My character Tsin'xing
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  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,277 Arc User
    Any news on when the wingman bug will be fixed?
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,309 Community Moderator
    Seriously? :unamused:
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    equinox976 wrote: »
    Any news on when the wingman bug will be fixed?

    Probably in the patch later in the week.

    They won't do an emergency patch to fix it, it will be in one of the regular weekly patches.
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  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    edited October 2019
    I believe the official ETA is: it'll be fixed when it's fixed.
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  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,277 Arc User
    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    equinox976 wrote: »
    Any news on when the wingman bug will be fixed?
    Probably in the patch later in the week.
    tyler002 wrote: »
    I believe the official ETA is: it'll be fixed when it's fixed.

    Thanks. I don't get to check most of the threads at the moment as I only have (slow) smartphone access.
  • duasynduasyn Member Posts: 492 Arc User
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    captainhunter1 wrote: »
    jennycolvin wrote: »
    Let's not derail the thread, please.

    The ship can be found at any shipyard, provided you finished the tutorial. Just filter the Tier 6 ships. The very last one - all the way to the right - is the Jem'Hadar Vanguard Heavy Destroyer [T6].
    It does NOT come with wingmen, but it does have the tactical/regenerative mode mechanic and it looks really neat. I tried it out today and was not disappointed. Then again, I love all the other versions (Manticore, Duvqu' and Dinaes) so that was not surprising.
    The uniforms are actually the same for both Fed and Klingon (maybe the boots are slightly different, but I'm not sure) and that was a little disappointing. Still, they use the Disco uniform color palette, so we can finally use the "real black" instead of that watered down version that pretty much every other palette seems to have.​​

    Thank you!

    Finally an answer that clearly addresses my question.

    Now why couldn't have Cryptic simply put a single sentence in their promos to make this clear? "Existing Lifetime accounts with original Jem'Hadar will find the new ships and uniforms in the Shipyard and Tailor respectively". You know, to differentiate this from the 'normal' mechanic of disseminating items to legacy accounts through the Promotions/Reclaim/Store tabs.

    Because LTS Veteran ships and uniforms have never been distributed through the Promotions/Reclaim/Store tabs?

    And new people would know that how? When making news posts about things, don't assume 'everyone' knows all that you know.
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,309 Community Moderator
    And if the OP were new, I would understand that, but they're not.
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  • mithrosnomoremithrosnomore Member Posts: 390 Arc User
    duasyn wrote: »

    And new people would know that how? When making news posts about things, don't assume 'everyone' knows all that you know.
    They wouldn't, but they don't have to.

    As stated, the information on where to get the ship is stated clearly in the news article.
    salazarraze wrote: »

    Seems pretty clear to me. Did you read the page? It says your new LTS uniforms are unlocked upon completing the Jem'Hadar tutorial. Which obviously means your existing character on an LTS account will have them unlocked automatically. The page also says your new ship will be available at the shipyard. So I don't get where the confusion is.

    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11282093

    A direct quote from the article:

    "The Jem’Hadar Vanguard Heavy Destroyer [T6] will be available for claim from the Shipyard by any Jem’Hadar character that is made on a lifetime subscription account."

    That is not ambiguous.

    You must have a lifetime account, you must have a Jem'Hadar character.
    Meet those two requirements and the ship will be available from the shipyard.

    Not the C-Store, not the events store, not any reclaim tab. The shipyard.
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