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sharmutashlikha#2072 sharmutashlikha Member Posts: 158 Arc User
Ever since I got this new computer, I wasn't able to launch STO in any other way than by arc. I saved the old launcher in time, but it didn't work after the end of 32bit support. Now arc is acting up and I can't log onto it, resulting in me unable to play. From a look at the forums I guess that people are in-game after maintenance. As I didn't have a chance to patch today, I don't know how to proceed right now.
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  • I have Win10 and play the game on Steam just fine

    hmm, I'd rather not add steam to the things to have to play STO... thanks anyway, I'll probably just wait until arc issues are resolved.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,913 Arc User
    Arc is undergoing maint right now. Mine says "Arc Client is currently in maintenance for upgrades. We are actively working to resolve the issue."
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • jamestown2368#9513 jamestown2368 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited October 2019
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,913 Arc User
    I just finally got signed into my Arc client. Decided to test it again.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    > @sharmutashlikha#2072 said:
    > hmm, I'd rather not add steam to the things to have to play STO... thanks anyway, I'll probably just wait until arc issues are resolved.

    I already had Steam for the rest of my PC gaming. I only ever use Arc if I have a giveaway code to redeem.
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  • jamestown2368#9513 jamestown2368 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    Sorry for the moron comment cryptic just blowing off some steam.
  • sharmutashlikha#2072 sharmutashlikha Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited October 2019
    Finally succeeded to launch arc and subsequently the STO launcher, but it's stuck on "Unable to connect to account server" now.

    Edit: Tried again, now the launcher tells me, "Unable to authenticate: Couldn't initialize token login".
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  • I'm in, hooray!, but too tired to play now...
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,331 Arc User
    I'm in, hooray!, but too tired to play now...

    It doesn't matter whether you use Arc or Steam. They both use the same original Client launcher (startrekonline.exe), and both Arc and Steam are not needed to play STO (there's no advantage to using either). Just grab the executable and stick it in it's own folder and repatch the game.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    I'm in, hooray!, but too tired to play now...

    It doesn't matter whether you use Arc or Steam. They both use the same original Client launcher (startrekonline.exe), and both Arc and Steam are not needed to play STO (there's no advantage to using either). Just grab the executable and stick it in it's own folder and repatch the game.

    Yep, this.

    Steam and Arc are both nothing but overlays, neither one is required to play STO. You can just run the game right out of the install folder and bypass either launcher.

    If for some reason that's not a desirable option the Stand Alone Installer also still works. Download that file, install.. patch.. done.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    I'm in, hooray!, but too tired to play now...
    It doesn't matter whether you use Arc or Steam. They both use the same original Client launcher (startrekonline.exe), and both Arc and Steam are not needed to play STO (there's no advantage to using either). Just grab the executable and stick it in it's own folder and repatch the game.
    Yep, this.

    Steam and Arc are both nothing but overlays, neither one is required to play STO. You can just run the game right out of the install folder and bypass either launcher.

    If for some reason that's not a desirable option the Stand Alone Installer also still works. Download that file, install.. patch.. done.
    Steam and Arc just run that anyways.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    I'm in, hooray!, but too tired to play now...
    It doesn't matter whether you use Arc or Steam. They both use the same original Client launcher (startrekonline.exe), and both Arc and Steam are not needed to play STO (there's no advantage to using either). Just grab the executable and stick it in it's own folder and repatch the game.
    Yep, this.

    Steam and Arc are both nothing but overlays, neither one is required to play STO. You can just run the game right out of the install folder and bypass either launcher.

    If for some reason that's not a desirable option the Stand Alone Installer also still works. Download that file, install.. patch.. done.
    Steam and Arc just run that anyways.

    I'm aware of that, which is why I advised they just run the .exe right out of the folder. The 'stand alone' is for people that don't even want that stuff on their PC to begin with. :smile:

    Yes, the 'stand alone' and Steam/Arc install the exact same files. Neither client is now, or ever has been, required to play STO. They're both nothing but overlays.
    Insert witty signature line here.
  • mspfuelermspfueler Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    Another trick is to uninstall ARC. It'll ask if you want to uninstall the games too. Click no.
    Then you can use the Cryptic Launcher.
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  • deathinspace4udeathinspace4u Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2019
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,913 Arc User
    What does this have to do with the subject at hand?
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited October 2019
    starswordc wrote: »
    > @sharmutashlikha#2072 said:
    I already had Steam for the rest of my PC gaming. I only ever use Arc if I have a giveaway code to redeem.

    and we can even bypass that need:
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/redeem

  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    For that matter, there are third party launchers in Discord (it is a PC voice app for games) and Nvidia GeForce Experience if you have either of those, though I am not sure if they do the update check for the games (I have always used ARC, Steam, or the exe directly if there was a problem with the other two).
  • Thanks for all the advice, I'll try to find the .exe file :)
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited October 2019
    Thanks for all the advice, I'll try to find the .exe file :)

    Should be (installation directory)\Star Trek Online\Star Trek Online.exe.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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  • borg0vermindborg0vermind Member Posts: 498 Arc User
    I have installed the game.... years ago. Then I just copy-pasted it to my new PCs/Laptops from home and work. No issue whatsoever, no install required, nothing else like arc required.
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,985 Arc User
    I run STO through Steam, since it's the only platform I use.
    No issues at all
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      -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
    • balarickbalarick Member Posts: 30 Arc User
      edited October 2019
      Just go to the installation directory -- I don't know what the default one is because I set up a custom "games" directory in "Program Files (x86)" -- and you should be able to find an executable called "Star Trek Online" at the bottom of the folder. Should be about 84MB in size. Create a shortcut to that on your desktop or wherever you prefer to access your games from and -- boom! -- you're in business. You don't have to use Arc, Steam, or any other game manager. They just like you to.
    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,985 Arc User
      Steam makes things a lot easier, an example being able to use your Steam wallet for getting zen.
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        "The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
        -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
      • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,331 Arc User
        I run STO through Steam, since it's the only platform I use.
        No issues at all

        You're not actually running STO through Steam though. All it is is another 'desktop' portal that accesses the Original Launcher to which I mean it's just like clicking the app from your desktop, but through an overlay which is taking up resources. Steam (and Arc) has NO benefit to running STO. The ONLY thing that goes 'through' Steam, when using that as your Portal, is a notification to the STO User count, which ONLY counts people running STO via Steam.
        Steam makes things a lot easier, an example being able to use your Steam wallet for getting zen.

        I use the in-game method,which is plain and simple and very secure.
        "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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