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Suggestion: TFO: re queue for replacement players.
kaloriaa4
Member Posts: 86 Arc User
When a player/'s leave a TFO it leaves the team short handed. Please allow us to queue up for replacement players to finish a TFO. Trying to finish a TFO if one or two missing cause they leave the party is extremely difficult. At a few occasions all 4 people leave making you the last one to do it. If you leave yourself you get hit with a penalty for 30 mins making you unable to re queue for another TFO. Please consider adding a ability to search for replacements.
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If you're the last one, leave the queue, you won't get a penalty. It's usually the first two that get it.
At the current state of power creep a team of 3 good players can deal with most PvE situations in elite just fine. For advanced less than that will do. DPS league, PvE channels and Fleets are always looking for members if you feel isolated.
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The game has plenty enough queues that will outright win themselves just by waiting out the timer.
Sometimes. Sometimes people leave because their team mates are so bad the TFO has already been ruined for them.
What difficulty level are you on where this is happening to you? Some people join Elite for the better rewards when they are not yet ready to play at that level.
That's an interesting idea but will only work for the pew pew pew TFOs not ones where you have to click on things or go places without a lot of extra coding. Of course most TFOs are pew pew.
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It's also dull and unrewarding.
Only ones i will consider leaving are herald sphere and the one with the temporal shenanigans repeating the same event 3x.
I strongly get the feeling that people only queue for those to spite others and then change character to leave the team shorthanded.
Im getting that feeling as well. But I agree, Battle of Procyon V is god awful, I leave it the second I load into it.
At the very least they should stop the leavers from using the random again for an extended period of time, account-wide. And fix the character-switch exploit.
Obviously if you honestly try to complete the mission but can't, it's OK to leave. Everyone's seen a bad pug sometimes.
Agreed. And by "extended period of time" I actually mean a days-long account-wide leaver penalty. Might be overkill, but if that's what's needed for people to understand that "you queued for it, you stay 'til the end", then so be it.
I don't use the random feature unless I need a couple of different rep marks and I don't have much time to spare, in which case I try my luck with it, but even queueing for specific STFs it's an hazard. I lost count of how many people have bailed on Bug Hunt, Brotherhood of the Sword, Counterpoint or Assault on Terok Nor, to list a few.
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
It would be great if they can allow at least a minimum number of replacements like one of your BOFFs if team is less than needed (ground). Some MMOs have that built in in team play since they know some peeps might drop off when started.
Space might be more complicated to substitute quitters and perhaps the reason why they don't adopt such a model.
They also fail sometimes because people sometimes sit on the spawn point firing, which draws in enemy forces that kill player ships during the respawn process, instead of moving off of it and leading them away. I have done that 'ground hog day' like space one and two out of three times the team got spawnlocked like that for instance.
The Tholian Red Alert used to spawnlock like that occasionally too. Most people know to swing out to the side a bit before attacking to keep that from happening but some people just do the straight in scream and leap and die multiple times, each time drawing the enemy closer to the spawn point.
its comes down to the time ticks before you leave the match , if you wait too long or quit too soon you get a penitaly either way
i will leave if its a Complete Snafu impossible to finish , due too others leaving, but some just leave because they failed a optional ,cuz gotta have those extra marks , if your concerned for optional you really should queue with a group IMO , otherwise Optionals are optional and in a PUG should not be expected to be done and move on IMO
Yea difficulty is often not an issue on maps as they all have auto-conclude conditions. Unfortunately a lot of players feel those, realize the nonsensical aspect of being on a map then, and leave to do something more worth doing within their gaming- (as far as storming the spire is concerned I might even say life-) time.
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I suspect the re-rolling/leaving logic lies in the imbalanced nature of effort/reward ratios on the different maps we have in general with the limited sources for competitive marks in particular. The respective maps for the latter are not even supported by the rtfo system even though it hands out this reputation’s marks.
If the devs were interested enough a simple poll could clear up which maps could use some reward tuning here and which don’t. A quality level of the rtfo boxes dependent on the maps you end up in instead of the randomness we encounter now would certainly be reflected by the player’s behavior to abandon and/or re-roll stuff.
Guaranteed UR/epic rtfo boxes for maps like Days of Doom or Storming the Spire for example would have kept me in this system instead of turning my back on it as a whole.
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Players have a habit to be all different you know. Even the same player will have different agendas and moods at different times dependent on how his life looks like.
Trying to find them out is probably impossible aside from regulating their behavior game sided with either rewards or penalties.
I know this sounds a bit hard but instead of waiting for cryptic to help out here (I have waited for years already) my best advice is to take matters into your own hands. Powercreep is well at a level where you can solo most advanced maps (even without much pain). Yep, takes some time to get there but in the meantime you can try to socialize, seek likeminded players, make friends and take them into PvE with you. This will reduce the dependence on random players greatly .
In a way you would fix the problem yourself instead of waiting for cryptic to do it; worked out nicely for me.
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Oh that’s good info. Let’s cross fingers that they get around to it rather sooner than later.
It would certainly address the leaving/re-roll mentality. Now if only conditions could be manufactured which addresses the AFK/wait it out/lets auto conclude it mentality we’d be set.
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l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
If you ask players what content could use more rewards, most will answer either all of it or their own personal favorites, rather than the ones they want to abandon.
Even I do that, when I say all the queues should have unique rewards added. And I actually do want them to give me a reason to play content I otherwise don't.
Then players would quit/reroll to get those.