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captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,627 Arc User
I have a question for the dev team.

I recently picked up the Federation Gagarin-class battlecruiser. It does everything as advertised, however there is one nit-picky problem I ran across... it is unable to mount the cloaking device console, despite the console saying it will equip to battlecruisers.

So I guess my question is this: Is the Gagarin a true battlecruiser, or does the designation need to be changed to "engineering cruiser"?

(or is the console problem simply an oversight?)
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,512 Arc User
    Wording on consoles is a little misleading sometimes, especially the "can be used on any XXXX"

    The answer is: Nope, working as intended, no cloak for you.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    "Battle Cruiser" does not mean battlecruisers in general it means the specific ship named "Battle Cruiser," ie the Avenger and its variants.

    They really should update the text on it, as both the "Battle Cruiser" and the "Dreadnought Cruiser" labels are no longer unique to the ships they actually mean.

    For future reference, the cloaking console will fit on all versions of the Defiant, the Galaxy-X and the Avenger.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    Working as intended. "Battle cruiser" in this case means the Arbiter/Avenger battle cruisers.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
    There is also one key difference between the Avenger line and the Gagarin.

    One is a Battlecruiser, the other is a Miracle Worker Battlecruser. Thus technically speaking two different animals. The wording for the console is basically absolute literal. Unless it says Battlecruiser and ONLY Battlecruiser, no cloak. As the Gagarin has the added on Miracle Worker... it is disqualified.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    Ship designations are a mess, even their slight changes and corrections don't help.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,280 Arc User
    they need to just stop using the type for anything and start using the actual class name...and if it doesn't have a class name *cough*dominion ships*cough*...MAKE SOMETHING UP!​​
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Ship designations are a mess, even their slight changes and corrections don't help.

    Agreed, and this issue pops up all the time with 'Battlecruisers' and 'Dreadnoughts.'

    This one is certainly not on the OP, the naming conventions in this game are a mess. Bottom line though, OP.. you can't use that console on the Gagarin because it's a Miracle Worker Battlecruiser, and not just a regular Battlecruiser. That refers to the Arbiter and Avenger class ships. You also can't use it on something like the Presidio because that's a 'Command Battlecruiser.'

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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,636 Arc User
    Since they've not made the cloak console truly a universal console when they made the other Avenger/Arbiter 'Battle Cruiser' consoles universal and able to be fit on any ship, it's likely that giving more Federation ships a cloak is a bridge too far, so the best that can hoped for is a name change.
    they need to just stop using the type for anything and start using the actual class name...and if it doesn't have a class name *cough*dominion ships*cough*...MAKE SOMETHING UP!​​

    That's been effectively fixed, as the Jem'Hadar ship consoles can now be used on any ship, Dominion or not.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    You can't expect a 'Miracle Worker' to be able to figure out how to install and use a cloak now can you. ;)
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  • trillbuffettrillbuffet Member Posts: 861 Arc User
    Reminds me why I want the archon class ship but won't ever buy it because its tied up in a scam with some other company trying to offload some knock off star trek merchandise you can find at about any yard sale for like 10 cents. I am hoping the page about it not working is a sign of them removing that TRIBBLE so it can be a decent cloak accessible ship lol.
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,412 Arc User
    Reminds me why I want the archon class ship but won't ever buy it because its tied up in a scam with some other company trying to offload some knock off star trek merchandise you can find at about any yard sale for like 10 cents. I am hoping the page about it not working is a sign of them removing that TRIBBLE so it can be a decent cloak accessible ship lol.

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