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lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
Because apparently this happened:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9611470/klingon-actor-sexual-assault-claim/

I'm assuming this means hes not going to be appearing in any discovery flashbacks or sto episodes set in the past, if such things were intended at some point
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
    valoreah wrote: »
    However, we live in the SJW age...

    *looks at watch*
    Wonder how long its gonna be before someone starts demanding they remove the voice overs for Binary Stars like they wanted to happen to the guy from Star Trek Continues who plays a Commodore in STO, and the totally stupid demand to change the name of the ISIS computer in Facility 4028 because of Terrorists.

    Seriously... people need to just frickin' stop with those kinds of demands. Frickin' special snowflakes want to rewrite history to bury things that happened because reasons... frickin' stupid how people behave these days. Like they go into overdrive to make it disappear rather than just face it and deal.
    *gets off the random soapbox and goes for a soda* Ok... just needed to vent for a minute there. Carry on.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited July 2019
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,497 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Let's not jump to conclusions. The key words here are "alligations" and "claims" - as such, nothing yet proven.

    I totally agree. However, we live in the SJW age - anything posted on MSM must be true because someone who knows someone heard from some guy in Walmart that someone tweeted about it, so it has to be fact!

    Innocent until proven guilty is a lost cause these days.

    Innocent until proven guilty means nothing at all in Hollywood circles and never has, it is all about appearances, spin, superstition, and ego.
  • wingedhussar#7584 wingedhussar Member Posts: 436 Community Moderator
    edited July 2019
    Easy now, guys.

    (Also, since when is The Sun "mainstream media"?)
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    Easy now, guys.

    (Also, since when is The Sun "mainstream media"?)

    Probably since the time that Twitter has become a valid news source.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    > @reyan01 said:
    > Let's not jump to conclusions. The key words here are "alligations" and "claims" - as such, nothing yet proven.

    Bingo wait for the conviction or he gets found not guilty. I am in no mood for witch hunts .
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    (discussion of moderation removed) - darkbladejk
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  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,713 Community Moderator
    Guys please keep comments civil and related to the post at hand. Debate is permitted provided it's kept civil. Folks are going to have their thoughts and opinions on this. Just keep it on point as I really don't enjoy having to bust out the mod sword.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
    azrael605 wrote: »
    I suspect nobody is familiar enough with the UK to know The Sun is about as reliable as National Inquirer, if that.

    So... supermarket tabloids? Did they find Elvis?
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    rattler2 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    I suspect nobody is familiar enough with the UK to know The Sun is about as reliable as National Inquirer, if that.

    So... supermarket tabloids? Did they find Elvis?

    Well, for what it's worth, the thing with Chris Obi does seem to have actually happened: I found a version of the story on news.co.au, which seems to be reputable based on what I've found with some wiki-walking.

    Doesn't mean the charges are valid. Doesn't mean they aren't valid. All we know is he was arrested.
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    I suspect nobody is familiar enough with the UK to know The Sun is about as reliable as National Inquirer, if that.

    So... supermarket tabloids? Did they find Elvis?

    Well, the Enquirer was made by a CIA person
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    azrael605 wrote: »
    I suspect nobody is familiar enough with the UK to know The Sun is about as reliable as National Inquirer, if that.

    So... supermarket tabloids? Did they find Elvis?

    At this point, ALL of them are supermarket tabloids. WaPo won a defamation lawsuit because they literally did not write ANY facts in their article and it was according to the judge ALL opinions with NO facts whatsoever in it, The problem is they did not write that piece as an opinion piece but an actual news article. So legally speaking...yeah they are all supermarket tabloids now. I can't believe I have to say this...but Trump was right about the media these days. They are nothing but fake news. Legally so even.

    No, they're not, and no, he isn't. The judge dismissed Sandmann v. Washington Post because WaPo was factually reporting other people's opinions.
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,985 Arc User
    There's innocent until proven guilty, that's how it should work in a civilised nation
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    • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
      There's innocent until proven guilty, that's how it should work in a civilised nation

      Unfortunately that only matters in legal cases. The Court of Public Opinion is now "You're Guilty. Time to Crucify you."
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
      The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,985 Arc User
      To the public, ignorance is bliss
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      • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
        coldnapalm wrote: »
        rattler2 wrote: »
        azrael605 wrote: »
        I suspect nobody is familiar enough with the UK to know The Sun is about as reliable as National Inquirer, if that.
        So... supermarket tabloids? Did they find Elvis?
        At this point, ALL of them are supermarket tabloids. WaPo won a defamation lawsuit because they literally did not write ANY facts in their article and it was according to the judge ALL opinions with NO facts whatsoever in it, The problem is they did not write that piece as an opinion piece but an actual news article. So legally speaking...yeah they are all supermarket tabloids now. I can't believe I have to say this...but Trump was right about the media these days. They are nothing but fake news. Legally so even.
        The guy who currently runs CNN apparently thinks of it as "entertainment" and nothing more.
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      • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
        Quit disparaging the tabloids. They are a great intel source for the Men in Black.
      • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
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        I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
        The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
      • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
        Who?
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        I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
        The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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