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Daleks .vs. The Borg Who would Win?

wmthoram#7588 wmthoram
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Daleks .vs. The Borg Who would Win? 18 votes

DALEKS
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BORG
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garaks31azrael605markhawkman 3 votes
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,985 Arc User
    DALEKS
    Daleks are masters of time travel and even fought a time war against the Timelords
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    • wmthoram#7588 wmthoram
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      DALEKS
      The Borg are better than the Daleks in only one respect. The Borg are better at dying.
    • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
      DALEKS
      Ground combat. The Borg may have the edge with space combat, however.
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    • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,101 Arc User
      DALEKS
      Daleks

      Even without time travel I think the battle would favour the Daleks.
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    • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
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      theraven2378 wrote: »
      Daleks are masters of time travel and even fought a time war against the Timelords
      Apparently that wasn't a power the Daleks had. They had allies who could but didn't have that power themselves. At least during the Time War. Later on things change.
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    • centurian821centurian821 Member Posts: 274 Arc User
      DALEKS
      markhawkman wrote: »
      theraven2378 wrote: »
      Daleks are masters of time travel and even fought a time war against the Timelords
      Apparently that wasn't a power the Daleks had. They had allies who could but didn't have that power themselves. At least during the Time War. Later on things change.

      Where did you hear that from? Daleks have had Time Travel and Time Manipulation technology since the Hartnell-era.
    • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,101 Arc User
      edited May 2019
      DALEKS
      markhawkman wrote: »
      theraven2378 wrote: »
      Daleks are masters of time travel and even fought a time war against the Timelords
      Apparently that wasn't a power the Daleks had. They had allies who could but didn't have that power themselves. At least during the Time War. Later on things change.

      Hmm???

      Daleks originally used 'Time Corridors' to move through time, jumping from 'A' to 'B' ... then at some point they built their own version of the Tardis to hunt down the doctor. Now we're at a point where your average Dalek can jump through time. Hell we even have two Daleks to specialise in time related technology, The Dalek Time Controller and the Dalek Eternal.

      ( 8:00 for time travel )

      https://youtu.be/PA2ALqdaQfs?t=8m
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    • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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      this says all you need to know about the daleks

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAVR6wTCY6k​​
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    • wildthyme467989wildthyme467989 Member Posts: 1,285 Arc User
      DALEKS
      Fairly obvious one, since the Daleks laid waste the Cybermen, they'd clean the Borg's clocks
    • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
      DALEKS
      valoreah wrote: »
      Daleks because post "Q, Who?" TNG and Voyager utterly destroyed them as being any kind of menace.

      Actually I'd say after Best of Both Worlds, as the Borg were still quite nasty then. Hell... they were pretty scary in First Contact. It was Voyager that defanged them.
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    • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
      Daleks are ridiculously OP and still lose every time by flipping a single switch on their mothership which blows up their entire species. So...​​
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    • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,101 Arc User
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      angrytarg wrote: »
      Daleks are ridiculously OP and still lose every time by flipping a single switch on their mothership which blows up their entire species. So...​​

      No worse than shooting the Queen and sending the entire collective into oblivion.

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    • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
      thay8472 wrote: »
      angrytarg wrote: »
      Daleks are ridiculously OP and still lose every time by flipping a single switch on their mothership which blows up their entire species. So...

      No worse than shooting the Queen and sending the entire collective into oblivion.

      It's the toll of not knowing when to stop and turning your "big bads" into cannon fodder. pig-2.gif​​
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    • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,362 Arc User
      Which Daleks? The ones who were easily defeated by stairs and blinded by hanging a hat on that eyestalk, or the massive and powerful fleet that Rose took apart only by melding with the TARDIS' Time Vortex in "Parting of the Ways"?

      Which Borg? The implacable, unstoppable, innumerable robot-space-zombie threat that attacked the heart of the Federation in "The Best of Both Worlds", or the silly robots under the central command of a deluded cyborg, who fell en masse just because she did, in First Contact?
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    • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
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      centurian821 wrote: »
      markhawkman wrote: »
      theraven2378 wrote: »
      Daleks are masters of time travel and even fought a time war against the Timelords
      Apparently that wasn't a power the Daleks had. They had allies who could but didn't have that power themselves. At least during the Time War. Later on things change.
      Where did you hear that from? Daleks have had Time Travel and Time Manipulation technology since the Hartnell-era.
      Hmmmm I was thinking of a conversation the ninth Doctor had, but... Now that I think again I'm not sure WHO he was talking about.
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    • wmthoram#7588 wmthoram
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      I'd say the Borg at their height of power and the Daleks at their best. I believe the queen has always been there in the Shadows. Granted the Daleks could just temporal shift to the creation of the Borg and stop their creation.
    • wildthyme467989wildthyme467989 Member Posts: 1,285 Arc User
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      wmthoram#7588 wrote: »
      I'd say the Borg at their height of power and the Daleks at their best. I believe the queen has always been there in the Shadows. Granted the Daleks could just temporal shift to the creation of the Borg and stop their creation.

      I dunno about averting the Borg's creation, that didn't work out so well when the Time Lords tried it with the Daleks
    • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
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      Daleks by such a stupidly huge margin it's not even worth considering. (And yet I will).

      Time Lords can move planets through time with their minds and the Daleks came within a city of annihilating them in a Time War. They went from primitive spacecraft and being dependent on their own cities for power to building replicas of TARDIS' in a tiny amount of time and Davros and one Supreme managed to built a weapon that uses planets as fuel that is capable of destroying the totality of existence that came within one planet of working. Oh, and Davros grew an army from his own chest, an army.
      Five New Paradigm Daleks built an whole new Empire complete with Parliament and their entire planet, and resurrected Davros. Even the Moment (Gallifrey's ultimate weapon) couldn't erase all the Daleks from the Time War.

      They have transporters, weaponised time travel, sheilds, assimilating nanobots, planet killers, death rays, the capability to destroy the Cybermen with one drone (and these are the same Cybermen that would bitchslap the Borg by themselves), and plungers they can suck your face off with.

      The Daleks were turned into gods from 2005 (arguably from the 80s really) whereas the Borg were nerfed into oblivion. Though the Dalek Time devices (DARDIS' pig-28.gif) originated in The Chase back in the 60s so they were already so much more powerful than the Borg even back then.

      Try something interesting like Jem'Hadar and Changelings vs Sontarans and Zygons. Or Klingons and Romulans vs Movolians and Dravens or something.

      There's not a Trek race short of god level ones like Q or whatnot that even approach the Cybermen, never mind Daleks, Time Lords, or Celestials.​​
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    • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
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      And yet.... Dalek mini-tanks can be destroyed by human-made explosives. It's like the inverse Ninja law. A handful of Daleks with a doomsday machine are more dangerous than an armada of Dalek warships. :p
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    • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,362 Arc User
      The Moment was never used. The Doctor couldn't make himself do it (the Moment required that its user be fully aware of everything that using it meant).

      The Cybermen and Borg wouldn't "fight" as such, they'd assimilate each other (the way the Cyber Leader tried to assimilate the Doctor in "Silver Nemesis"). Then they'd go on to take over the Galaxy.
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    • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
      Obviously, the Borg would win since they can easily defeat the Dalek's greatest enemy, stairs.
    • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,362 Arc User
      starkaos wrote: »
      Obviously, the Borg would win since they can easily defeat the Dalek's greatest enemy, stairs.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BhKu3XXi7E
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    • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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      you know, stairs were explicitly mentioned in the video posted above...along with a whole host of other reasons the daleks simply cannot even exist as a species, never mind be able to contend with other races and factions that WEREN'T written by absolute idiots​​
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      #LegalizeAwoo

      A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
      An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
      A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
      A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"

      "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
      "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
      Passion and Serenity are one.
      I gain power by understanding both.
      In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
      I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
      The Force is united within me.
    • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
      @artan42 don't forget the convenient kill switches though 😂
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      ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
      "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
      "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
      "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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    • wildthyme467989wildthyme467989 Member Posts: 1,285 Arc User
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      angrytarg wrote: »
      @artan42 don't forget the convenient kill switches though 😂

      And the fact that even though they're massively overpowered, they still haven't discovered a mutation that would solve their vulnerability to their own weapon
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