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Let's Hypothesize about the DSC Constitution!
centurian821
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We all know that the DSC Connie is on its way in-game and that it would have been here by now were it not for the fact that Season 2 has an episode left and the Devs are waiting to see if there are any surprises in store. What I'd like to know it what everyone thinks might be included in the ship once it gets in game. So go wild and let's talk shop!
Personally, when I saw the differences in weapon ranges between Enterprise and everyone else on a screenshot this morning I was struck with an idea. A unique Phaser Array or Photon Torpedo only allowed 1 per ship with a 12km range. There's only one weapon currently in game that does this and that's the Hirogen Tetryon Sniper Cannon (I think that's what it is called). They'd be visually similar to the TOS Phasers or Photons, but just different enough to distinguish between the two.
With this 12km range should come some limitations though, perhaps a narrow firing arc similar to DHCannons or a minimum range of 2-5km so it can't be used all the time.
Anyway, what ideas can you come up with?
Personally, when I saw the differences in weapon ranges between Enterprise and everyone else on a screenshot this morning I was struck with an idea. A unique Phaser Array or Photon Torpedo only allowed 1 per ship with a 12km range. There's only one weapon currently in game that does this and that's the Hirogen Tetryon Sniper Cannon (I think that's what it is called). They'd be visually similar to the TOS Phasers or Photons, but just different enough to distinguish between the two.
With this 12km range should come some limitations though, perhaps a narrow firing arc similar to DHCannons or a minimum range of 2-5km so it can't be used all the time.
Anyway, what ideas can you come up with?
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The swept back pylons are nice and all and look great on the Refit, but for this design I just prefer the straight ones to the swept back ones.
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The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Same here. I mean they already did give the Connie not only a revamp on the model for the standard and refit, but also added in the Pilot beta version.
There's already a long ranged console(Projected Singularity console has a firing range past 10km), a Long Ranged Destabilizing Tetryon Heavy Cannon(the Hirogen lobi tetryon burn cannon, 12km range with no damage dropoff from range, 3 second cycling time, and 180 degree arc), and projectile(Bio-Neural Warhead has a 15km range with a 3km minimum firing range, but also a long firing cooldown, from the tricobalt side of the hybrid TCD/AP projectile).
I say no to the Phaser Array. Phasers already have widespread options that many others don't(such as the Terran Task Force set weapon). If you're wanting narrow firing arcs, load up on DCs, DHCs, or DBBs.
My idea is to make the EssTeeDee Enterprise a skin unlock(similar to shield visuals), only found in a R&D Promo box. Or if as a ship, 4/4 cruiser(not battlecruiser, and not 5/3) with Command and/or Miracle Worker seats on lower end BOFF seats(not full MW or Command). Also in a R&D Promo box.
Starship Class Deep Space Exploration Cruiser (T6)
(I pick the name "Starship" class because that's what it says on the Enterprise's dedication plaque, even though canon states nowadays it's Constitution Class.
- Bridge Officer Seating
- Shield Modifier: 1.2
- Hull Modifier: 1.4
- Turn Rate: 9
- Commander Engineering
- Commander Universal
- Lt.Science|Miracle Worker
- Lt.Tactical|Command
- Ensign Universal|Miracle Worker
- Consoles: 4 Engineering, 3 Science, 4 Tactical
- Bonus Power: +5 all Power Levels
- Weapon Slots: 5 Front, 3 Aft
- Device Slots: 4
- Universal Console: Tactical Flyers
- Passive: Gain +3 to all Power Levels
- Active: You launch 8 tactical flyers. They will attack your current target or the nearest enemy with phaser beams and target subsystems (weapons) for the next 30 seconds.
- Starship Mastery Trait: Starfleet's Promise
- Whenever you or an ally within 10 km is reduced to 50 % or less hull, the target gains an aura of Starfleet's Promise for 15 seconds. This effect can occur only once every 30 seconds per target. The target and all allies within the aura gain a +10 % bonus to all outgoing heals, and increase the recharge rate of all hull and shield healing powers by 25%. Multiple Promises stack, up to a maximum of +50 % to outgoing heals and a +100 % recharge rate.
Dual Commander Seat, but no Lt.Cmdr seat, but all lower ranked seats have a spec ability.Alternate Trait Ideas
Starship Mastery Trait: Service, Sacrifice, Compassion And Love
Bonus points if a little text box appears over a BOff that says "Orange? Really? Ugh!"
I wonder that, too. But it seems it would be weird, since there seems to be only one instance in the history of the ship where it had a small shuttle fleet to defend itself. That's why my suggestion above only turns it into a console.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
If that was the standard complement for a Constitution Class, the Galaxy Class Cruiser would definitely be a full Carrier in STO.
RnD box 100% it will have d7 counterpart too, this was basically confirmed in a live stream a few weeks back.
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This Bridge interior MUST be made for said Disco-Connie or it's a no go.
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Hopefully with less glare and not so shiny, I'd have to play wearing sunglasses.
And I'm a PC
-looks at her 3mil EC-
OK I'm going to go be sad now.
Provided you're wealthy enough to own both ships at over 1 Billion EC each.
I feel ya.
*pat pat*
yeah, it feels... luxurious.
I'm afraid the ship in game will be rather expensive.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
100% without a doubt R&D pack, there's no reason to believe Cryptic won't put it out in the most expensive to aquire package possible along with the TOS Connie and the 2 Discoverys.
And no we don't know CBS has that rule, all I've seen is forum goers saying it. I find it much more likely Cryptic simply knows people are going to shell out absurd levels of $$ to get it and this is their best short term money gain on the big ships. If you can point me to something from a Dev stating that CBS has said they could produce these ships but they have to be behind the games largest paywall to ensure maximum money gains.. er i mean 'rarity' than maybe I'll change my stance on it, but I find the idea preposterous.
which seems far more likely?
Cryptic - These ship licenses are expensive, and these people just shelled out tons on the dreadnoughts. Lets put the Connies in the RD box for max $$
CBS - Yes this board room of execs has decided that in your star trek online game that the Constitution class of starships should be really rare since it's main line ship. No these people have no idea about your game but we've all decided we can't be breaking a canon feel and thus your licenses is provisioned with a rarity cause. Please make sure you make it so expensive to acquire that it will meet this rarity
so we have in the game Kevin that is from the universe altered (movie) and the temporal R&D that is from the original universe, here is the question:
if the Enterprise was from Pike and then was passed to Kirk means the Temporal R&D is the DSC Connie in the end, no?
More Cryptic waited for a perfect opportunity to see how they preform before putting a T6 Connie in game, why would they throw all their eggs in one basket for the short term whebn they are playing the long game
Once you start thinking of this stuff from a business perspective, it gets pretty clear.
The DisConnie and DiscoD7 are in a different boat - they have the rights to put them out whenever they want, but they wanted to wait for the end of the season so they could make sure any cool stuff that happens during the show could be added if they felt like it. Same with the Section 31 ships.
Well, remember - per the ST: D storyline it just had a major refit/repair job completed at ESD. IE- I'm sure they gave it a wash and a wax inside and out.
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[Start Alternate Reality]
Les Moonves was violently opposed to an end-game Constitution and the Executive Board of CBS at their weekly Board meetings had that on the Agenda. They eventually relented after the 50th Anniversary, saw the $$$$, and decreed R&D Promotion only.
This whole kerfuffle caused such bad blood between Moonves and the Board that they set him up to move him out. CBS stock prices were hanging in the balance because of that end-game Constitution.
[End Alternate Reality]
Of course, having a more readily available end-game Constitution that would surpress other Ship sales was far from anyone's mind.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
1: STO was set in 2409, and CBS didn't want to allow an end game connie due to the ship being so old in STO's time period.
2: They also made some comment about CBS not wanting a connie to be able to destroy a Borg cube.
Other that those 2 general statements, all of the other stuff you might read is simply conjecture. Granted, it might be conjecture based on other statements about potentially related things (such as lock box ships are ships that are supposed to be rare), but those 2 statement above are all that the devs ever said about the connie specifically.
So, what changed? Well, the main thing was when STO did the "Agents of Yesterday" expansion and we suddenly had TOS-era ships at end game by calling them "temporal ships" (aka not really old ships, but future ships that just looked like old ships). Plus, by the time AOY came around there were other Trek games (like Timelines) that had connies as end game level ships blowing up other (much newer) end game level ships.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008