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Should STO have vulgar language in it? 62 votes

Yes
69%
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No
30%
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    yes, but only in french.

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • intennaintenna Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    No
    I would appreciate this to be taken seriously.
  • cheesebasketcheesebasket Member Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    Uhh...have you ever been to ESD or Drozana? it's called chats m8
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  • ichaerus1ichaerus1 Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    Yes
    Yes. If you're so sensitive that words hurt you, it's best to either turn on the chat filter, or sequester yourself as a hermit. Going on a xenos purging spree, or using time travel to wipe out someone's wife and unborn child, and nobody bats an eye. A few words here and there, and people lose their minds.

    Plenty of vulgarity in ESD, zone, Drozana, Risa, and DS9 chats. Doesn't bother me any. But I've heard far worse from NCOs when I was in the army.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,331 Arc User
    Yes
    intenna wrote: »
    I would appreciate this to be taken seriously.

    Star Trek has swearing/profanity in it, so it's literally canon, and as the game has violence, and I believe, carries a 13 rating, it's allowed.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • mainamaina Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    Yes
    My cat uses harsher language.
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  • doctorstegidoctorstegi Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    No
    I think its about the last Episode where "Tilly" says, til next time TRIBBLE****s. And I agree it shouldn't be in the show or in the game. What people do in Chat i don't care about cause i rarely use the chat at all and i have control over it but not about what the characters say in the game.
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  • brian334brian334 Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    No
    Vulgarity is literally the lowest form of wit. Its sole purpose is to arouse the ire of the hearer. It's the common man's version of the old comedic trope, "If you can't make 'em laugh, insult 'em."

    Really, what function does vulgarity perform in language? Does it shock you? Insult you? Why is it used at all?

    It is used to give weight to otherwise weightless statements. And the more its used, the less impact it has. Nobody gasps anymore when a curse word is said on TV, but when I was a youngster even hinting at the swear was shocking. George Carlin's Seven Words bit was very risque back when it came out, but since then everyone's heard all of those words on TV and the bit has lost its impact.

    There aren't that many years between George Carlin and Eddie Murphy. That's how fast vulgarity loses its impact. Murphy isn't funny because he swears; he's funny and he swears. If you can, find his old Saturday Might Live skits. Nary a curse and they will leave you rolling on the floor laughing.

    So No. Not because they are profane, but because they insult the reader. Not because they are too risque for some of the game's audience, but because they add nothing to the conversation. Not because they are cutting-edge, but because they are old, tired, and worn out.

    When I was in the Navy, everyone cursed, all the time. It was part of daily conversation. There was one senior petty oficer who never used profanity. Everybody strained to hear what he said. When cursing becomes commonplace it has zero impact, but the one who doesn't use vulgarity stands out.
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    No
    I would have to see how it is used in the mission...if is was necessary or not. Most of the time it is not necessary.
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  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    No
    Define vulgar language? Or rather who would define what constitutes vulgar. This is a global game and the boundaries are pretty wide in some parts.

    The last thing we want is a puritanical approach of modern day companies who are scared to offend some random antisocial media addicted muppet who'll then start some nonsensical pitchfork waving bandwagon.

    I'm generally not someone who swears whereas folk I work with treat it as a form of punctuation. If I do happen to let something slip for whatever reason you can see them take notice.
  • theboxisredtheboxisred Member Posts: 450 Arc User
    Yes
    Yes it should, but only if treated as the exception and not the rule. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations and all that...

    Profanity, when done well, is one way of developing a character. Let's face it, there is too little character development in entertainment these days. Indeed, I find lazy infantile writing to be more offensive than a curse word here or there.

    Plus as an adult I find it insulting when someone tries to infantilize us with the concept that an idea may only be expressed in the approved manner. It's the same infantile behavior we see these days when one is presented with an outcome they don't like; their response is to scream into the air like a child. In public, even.

    Then there is the counter intuitive position of "Those who use profanity have a limited vocabulary," when, in fact, if you've excised profanity from your vocabulary you have chosen to limit your own vocabulary.

    Yes, it reveals a skewed set of priorities when one will balk at people having the seks or saying the fartword, but take the murderously mass murder in stride.
  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    Yes
    where2r1 wrote: »
    I would have to see how it is used in the mission...if is was necessary or not. Most of the time it is not necessary.

    It was used to comedic effect, it was pretty funny.
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  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    Yes
    It's all completely subjective, and if you don't like it, you are free to focus your attention elsewhere.
  • vengefuldjinnvengefuldjinn Member Posts: 1,520 Arc User
    edited January 2019
    Yes
    I was okay with it since Discovery show uses it -
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  • tm706tm706 Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    Yes
    Perfectly fine with it. The show uses it on occasion. I'm an adult and use it on occasion also. It's all about context though and in the recent episode, it was perfectly fine.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    Yes
    Yes, and it was used in game as funny and a joke to Discovery being that fans lose their minds when they curse in Discovery, so it was very funny hearing Killy point the gun and say no cursing

    How did I know someone was gonna get offended by this as soon as I heard her say it I knew someone was gonna lose their minds
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,501 Arc User
    edited January 2019
    Yes
    According to canon, profanity is "F---- awesome!" ("Yes, it IS F---- awsome.")

    And has been for many years: Data: "Oh Sh--"
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,100 Arc User
    Yes
    Hell yeah!
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,867 Arc User
    Yes
    1986:
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    This is fine.
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  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    "Starfleet" should probably have code(s) against it. Someone with tourettes(assuming it's incurable) should probably be ineligible to become a Comms Officers or the like; while "uncivilized" speech would presumably be frowned upon as a whole.

    As for the Star Trek (Online) Multiverse... whatever. I don't particularly care, and I'm pretty sure vulgarity is considered 'formal' for some species.

    That said, expletives are usually more impactful when they're reserved for suitably dire moments. When they're thrown out for every asinine thing, they tend to grow stale rather quickly(to the point where word filters can actually make conversations more entertaining).
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,248 Arc User
    Yes
    If used correctly yes, the swearing done but the Terran's in the recent episode made sense storywise and allowed us to contrast them with our characters.

    Language is a tool and it can be used well or poorly. It's not like the terrans were dropping f-bombs for the sake of it. STO self-censoring their language for the sake of not having "naughty" language will to lines that are clumsy or unintentionally silly.

    If somewhat harsher language is used in the future in the same way as in these episodes I'm perfectly fine with it, it's only when vulgar language is used for its own sake I have issues with it.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited January 2019
    Yes
    The game has a rating of Teen.

    Teen.
    "Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language."

    The usage in the game fits with the description of the rating. If it offends you, then you will want to stick with games with a rating of "Everyone" or "Everyone 10+"
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    No
    Personally, I am not bothered by the use of vulgarity in my games. I actually enjoyed the use of the expletives in the new missions. I play Tyranny often and there is a line "Bleed out you little sh*t!". I can't help but laugh every time I hear that one line.

    However, IMO, this game is supposed to be a game that has a large number of younger people. Therefore, the use of that type of language should not be here. That could have an effect on the STO's ESRB rating.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    Yes
    However, IMO, this game is supposed to be a game that has a large number of younger people. Therefore, the use of that type of language should not be here. That could have an effect on the STO's ESRB rating.

    Again, it's Rating is already 'Teen' and it's well within that rating.
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    edited January 2019
    No
    Again, it's Rating is already 'Teen' and it's well within that rating.

    Yeah... infrequent use of strong language, but I am concerned that this "might" be a precedent where future missions use such language more liberally. THAT can affect the game's ESRB rating.

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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,100 Arc User
    No
    I'm torn in that yes, a lot of younger kids play (most with parent's permission) - and they DO maintain a 'profanity filter' option in game; so yeah, to have a couple characters say "a**hole" is IMO close to crossing a line. If it really added something to the actual story, I'd be all for it, but here it just seemed put in because they felt they could.

    I don't thinks it's unforgivably bad; but again, it didn't really add anything to the story (Which given how it was set up had plotholes you could pass a Planet through:
    (IE Was there a real reason why 'Killy' Tilly didn't vaporize us once we returned?)

    Again, if it adds something to the story yes; but to do it just to do it - I could take it or leave it; and given that the majority of this game is TNG era based - and that er a of Trek was made more 'Family Friendly' then any other Trek era - if you're gonna go down that path; use it for something that really IS a good story (and the two entries so far in MoD are mediocre at best although Mary Wiseman did a good job with mediocre material to work with here IMO).
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