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Gravity Kills - Let's collect some tactics for this one
sophlogimo
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In Gravity Kills, I regularly see people not really using the map. That can draw out the TFO much longer than it would need to be. I just had to finish one alone because of this.
A few things that work for me:
- Use Tractor Beam Repulsors (TBR) to push enemies into the black hole.
- DO NOT USE GRAVITY WELL (GW). This will usually just stop others from using TBR as described above. It is bad enough that USS Jupiter does this, but at least she stays away from the black hole.
- Slot at least one copy of Emergency Power to Engines. This in combination with Evasive maneuvers can make it unnecessary to warp out of the event horizon, even when the game sais otherwise.
- If you notice that your team and USS Jupiter are overwhelmed in the third stage (where it usualy happens, if it happens, because people mindlessly try to DPS their way out of this instead of using TBR), fly widely around the opposition towards the backside of the Tzenkethi station, to collect particles and deliver them. Sure, Jupiter willl go to 0 hp, and the optional will be lost, but at least you can finish the mission.
Feel free to criticize constructively, add or comment with the intent of making some kind of established concensus on how we should usually approach this mission, as was done long ago with ISA, KSA and CSA, before all the DPS powercreep made that a lost art for those TFO's.
A few things that work for me:
- Use Tractor Beam Repulsors (TBR) to push enemies into the black hole.
- DO NOT USE GRAVITY WELL (GW). This will usually just stop others from using TBR as described above. It is bad enough that USS Jupiter does this, but at least she stays away from the black hole.
- Slot at least one copy of Emergency Power to Engines. This in combination with Evasive maneuvers can make it unnecessary to warp out of the event horizon, even when the game sais otherwise.
- If you notice that your team and USS Jupiter are overwhelmed in the third stage (where it usualy happens, if it happens, because people mindlessly try to DPS their way out of this instead of using TBR), fly widely around the opposition towards the backside of the Tzenkethi station, to collect particles and deliver them. Sure, Jupiter willl go to 0 hp, and the optional will be lost, but at least you can finish the mission.
Feel free to criticize constructively, add or comment with the intent of making some kind of established concensus on how we should usually approach this mission, as was done long ago with ISA, KSA and CSA, before all the DPS powercreep made that a lost art for those TFO's.
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Nevertheless, I believe the RTFO system really *is* the reason that particular queue goes so badly, currently. Ignoring the main reason (or rather, assuming ppl simply don't know how to play it) feels a mite weird. But fair enough, I'll leave that to another thread.
You can highly specialize in GK tactics but the highlights (TBR, EPE) are boff powers that can be slotted in when out of combat. That's what I did today when playing GK through a random TFO, worked out just fine (not ideal but still a good move.)
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This has been changed now so that the Tzenkethi are immune to the pull of the singularity. Which is a shame as it ruins what was a nice tactic a sci ship could use to help clear mobs away.
That really IS a shame.
Are you sure? I was using TBR yesterday to clear mobs by pushing them into the singularity. It seemed to work just fine.
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No.
Perhaps a lack of clarity on my part initially. The Tzenkethi's cannot be killed by the singularity, be they pushed there by players or fall there naturally.
I've just played this mission and despite near constant attempts by myself over the entire duration of the mission to use TBR to push enemies into the singularity not a single ship died that way.
They definitely cannot be killed that way anymore.
So they have both an immunity to being pulled naturally, but also an immunity to being killed by it even when pushed there.
While my own information is a bit old, as last time i played this map with my sci vessel (that has TBR) was like a week before RTFO system, then I can confirm I couldn't manage to kill any tzenkethi ships (including the dreadnought) by pushing them into the black hole either.
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Why the hell they decided to have the Jupiter do it is beyond me.
For enemies. Intel's Viral Impulse is good for them. Make them go zooming off in different directions. Some should head to the black hole.
Always thought Gravity Kills was a good/interesting map. Sadly, few ever bothered to do it. At least now with RTFOs you can get some, ahem.. 'volunteers' to join you.
In fairness though the Jupiter stays out at the fringe of the fight and really only needs to engage ships attacking it personally. The majority of the fight is happening out of its range so it doesn't seem to affect the rest of the map. Therefore the trickier parts where there's swarms of enemies round the stations seems safe of NPC fired GW's.
It's only the players one must worry about then.
Think peeps 2-maned elite just fine with ignoring the Jupiter completely. Trying “to help” it is not only counterproductive as it won’t complete the mission it also poses a big danger as unnecessary agro gets directed to the Jupiter. Things get downhill especially when players die while trying “to help” the Jupiter.
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No prob, glad to be of help with your "guide".
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There you go again, gimp anybody else down to your low in the hope you turn out to be more skilled than the average. Better load up an arcade game and scrub through there, hm? In mmorpg players gather the tools they can and learn how to use them well, it can’t be helped.
How about you get a friend, make a good build and play this map on elite 2 man. Would be a tough challenge for me to do so but I’m sure you can handle… oh or are we still talking advanced?
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I think the video shows what can be done in the mission, and as such it's good to see the potential if people learn a few tricks and get a few key pieces of gear. And it also shows exactly what Peter & I were discussing, that the Jupiter can pretty much be ignored and is not at risk unless you draw too much aggro towards it.
I'm guessing that the ship in that video had Competitive engines, which were giving the speed boosts to get away so fast, and the pilot ships have build in speed boosts also. I think that will potentially give some people ideas for tactics. And the guy talking explains pretty well what needs to be done as well.
No need to be so negative all the dammed time, nobody made you the police of what can/cannot be posted in this thread.