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endervoidhawk#2728 endervoidhawk Member Posts: 4 Arc User
At this point I really need an all out Fed-KDF war to be played out somewhere more fundamental than simple PvP. This seems more likely to come into play with Discovery approaching soon.

I'm envisioning something with space and ground capture points and a mix of NPC and player characters -

Im KDF and every time I see a Fed ship flying through Sec Space I wanna blow it out of the sky. Then fleets and armadas will makes sense for coordinating attacks across sectors.

Purpose could depend on the position of the asset, star, moon, station - for example:

1. Faction capture % of assets in Alpha or Beta quadrant improve sector speed.
2. Dilithium moons provide +1,2,3 refined dil/h per faction or fleet.
3. Starbases provide +1,2,3 EC/h per factor or fleet.
4. Battles lost provide +% dmg +% defense for 20 hours (to balance out overwhelming forces)
... etc, get creative.

Heck, the entire north side of the Alpha Quadrant is vacant - cant we fight over its stars and moons?
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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    Yeah, not happening. As of now we're one big cuddly alliance. In the future there won't even be anything besides "the federation" according to "Time and Tide" so the ship for the good old fed/kdf war has sailed, crashed, burnt down and it's remains are now used by kazon to paint black tripes on their ships.
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    At this point I really need an all out Fed-KDF war to be played out somewhere more fundamental than simple PvP. This seems more likely to come into play with Discovery approaching soon.

    I'm envisioning something with space and ground capture points and a mix of NPC and player characters -

    Im KDF and every time I see a Fed ship flying through Sec Space I wanna blow it out of the sky. Then fleets and armadas will makes sense for coordinating attacks across sectors.

    Purpose could depend on the position of the asset, star, moon, station - for example:

    1. Faction capture % of assets in Alpha or Beta quadrant improve sector speed.
    2. Dilithium moons provide +1,2,3 refined dil/h per faction or fleet.
    3. Starbases provide +1,2,3 EC/h per factor or fleet.
    4. Battles lost provide +% dmg +% defense for 20 hours (to balance out overwhelming forces)
    ... etc, get creative.

    Heck, the entire north side of the Alpha Quadrant is vacant - cant we fight over its stars and moons?

    LOL I would welcome this challenge in Sector space :P

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    No to forced PvP.

    Don't need to give grifers a reason to gank rookie players in Sector Space. Also... not everyone likes PvP, so it shouldn't be forced on people.

    With all due respect... you want a war...
    I hear WoW's new Expansion is gonna refocus on the conflict between the Alliance and Horde.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    There should be a way,In sector space, to allow for "sector challenges." Default is off...But for those of us who want it..We can turn in on and "Get it on!"

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  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,253 Arc User
    YES. Excellent Idea. An improvement from Kerrat PvPvE zone warzone is needed.​​
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    on pvp sector space stuff no, want or not it would not end well.

    I do think the need to go back and add a more missions with a tighter focus on the last klingon/fedration war, it is very randomly done and barely background any more.

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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    WAR!!!

    HUH!!#!

    YEAH!!!!

    What is it good for?
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,501 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    In actual fact its the tiny minority that won't be playing AoD. Just as it was a tiny minority that hated TNG, DS9, etc.

    Yep. Some of us like TOS through (some of) Enterprise and Discovery.

    Hopefully the STO writers won't try copying the worst of Disco's "f---ing awesome!" writing though -- "this is going to be my last jump! Then I'll go to the opera with my boyfriend, won't that be nice? Oh, and let's be sure to not send the vital war-winning raw data to Starfleet until after we make this perfectly safe last jump where nothing could possibly go wrong!" : sigh :
  • kianazerokianazero Member Posts: 247 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    In actual fact its the tiny minority that won't be playing AoD. Just as it was a tiny minority that hated TNG, DS9, etc.

    Yep. Some of us like TOS through (some of) Enterprise and Discovery.

    Hopefully the STO writers won't try copying the worst of Disco's "f---ing awesome!" writing though -- "this is going to be my last jump! Then I'll go to the opera with my boyfriend, won't that be nice? Oh, and let's be sure to not send the vital war-winning raw data to Starfleet until after we make this perfectly safe last jump where nothing could possibly go wrong!" : sigh :

    Now I'm just imagining Commander Bright Idea Guy changing everything.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    Hopefully the STO writers won't try copying the worst of Disco's "f---ing awesome!" writing though -- "this is going to be my last jump! Then I'll go to the opera with my boyfriend, won't that be nice? Oh, and let's be sure to not send the vital war-winning raw data to Starfleet until after we make this perfectly safe last jump where nothing could possibly go wrong!" : sigh :

    I can understand Discovery not transmitting it immediately after beating the Sarco because of the potential risk of interception by the Klingons. Better to get deeper into Federation Space before delivering it so the Klingons don't have a chance to counter it so quickly.
    As for the jump...

    Lorca:
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    He played the Discovery crew from Day 1. Make moves to help win the war... until he gets what he wants then stab them in the back.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • tm706tm706 Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    PVP is available for people who want it. Forcing it on the population isn't going to do anything but drive people further from it. A capture and hold style event pitting us against PVE but scored against KDF pitted against PVE might be somewhat more acceptable but (SPOILER) the whole war against the KDF ends fairly early in the game's storyline now.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,587 Arc User
    Go play EvE Online. Seriously, no non-consensual PvP, please.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,331 Arc User
    Ah....the 'but I want to kill people' war chant.

    Sorry OP, but that idea will kill the game. Forcing people to PvP is bad for business when the main jist of the game is to explore and save the universe as a team. The Fed-KDF war ended years ago in our time (a year ago in game-time). It's over. There is more likelyhood of rogue Klinks attacking their own kind than the Fed. The Alliance is formed and alive.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,820 Arc User
    So in other words something else Feds would dominate as there are going to be 3 Fed factions soon and as a majority play Feds?
  • protoneousprotoneous Member Posts: 2,950 Arc User
    Im KDF and every time I see a Fed ship flying through Sec Space I wanna blow it out of the sky
    I feel the same way. The very idea that a fed petaQ is in the same sector is... irritating to say the least. The Alliance won't last. Keep that blade sharp brother. Qapla'!

  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    One of the reasons I play this game is, actually, the lack of enforced PvP, i can mi d my own business, and others too, i line that, i hardly have any time to play as it is!
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    talonxv wrote: »
    WAR!!!

    HUH!!#!

    YEAH!!!!

    What is it good for?

    Absolutely Nothing.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,354 Arc User
    talonxv wrote: »
    WAR!!!

    HUH!!#!

    YEAH!!!!

    What is it good for?
    War. War never changes.

    So if you're fond of the same ol' same ol', I suppose that's what it's good for...
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  • albaeokalbaeok Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    I have tried to invite people I know in other games to come try STO. Many simply refused because of no real pvp in the game, but a few did try out the game. Many members are moderate to hard core pvpers. With that said, only 2 come one once in a while, maybe for fleet events we have, or just to come on keep in touch. That was out of 24 people I brought here. Most of these guys like open sand box pvp gank style games so there is a little bias here. I would love to see something done with pvp though. ANYTHING is better then what we have now. I believe there are more people who would come to this game if we did have better pvp game play.
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