It means there is hope, reyan! People have already given up hope on ever getting a Tier 6 Vor'Cha, and finally, an eternity later, it's there. So there is still a chance there will be a Tier 6 Nova one day.
And in the meantime we can enjoy flying around the cool Tier 6 Vor'Cha. A maneuverable Klingon Cruiser that is a worthy member of the Klingon lineup.
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Awesome. But another lazy ship bundle. A while ago no time for more ships cause of AoD, and nowanother 2 for Fed and KDF only. There is always something in development, so that’s not a valid reason not to include stuff. ViL added ships during development and even some quick newbies after a while (Jemhadar experimental weapon) You actually acknowledge the fact that allies who can fly there allies ships are from now on the low priority list and they can fly either KDF or Fed anyway.
The Pilot ship bundle was another fail. But at least all factions got a ship choice. Less pilot seats then the previous one. The kdf and romulans just got a visual kitbash s(h)ame ship. No sing core Romulan ships is a fail. Didn't know the Romulans downgraded just for that ship the Iconian template into a fed ship. And i loved the Iconian Romulan look, but thats a matter of taste. And for Andorian players they are great, but that’s where the 9 ships where developed for annyway. Besides the event ships wise seating’s offcourse.
This is the 3rd Bundle which disappoints and a skippable bundle. There to expensieve as Admirality cards only. And kinda done with "the no time" lies.
Absolutely nice looking ships, the Fed looks more like just some new assets applied but well done whereas the KDF looking more brand new & both of these have been wanted for a long time too. Too bad nothing for the Romulan side ... again.
I just hope its got good stats and we can change the skin. I didn't see that design when archer was in the future but you did see vor'chas not sure why they rename it and not just call it a refit and keep the canon looks about it.
and the console its coming with will it be a two piece set since we don't have a c store Vor'cha to combine with it? and will its stats be as they should or copied and pasted from the fed ship. as they have done in past.
personally to the Rommy people crying I hate the bundles because they almost always turn out to be copy paste we would all be better off and have more diversity if they were single items. and I don't play fed side KDF only here.
but ill be optimistic on this and say you made a sale on a Klingon ship so long as its not gimped into a messed up copy paste Feddiefied garbage scowl.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
I could care less about the T6 Ambo, but I seriously like the look of the Vor'ral.
Nicely hybridizes the Vor'cha and the Tor'Kaht, and that hammerhead bow looks a lot better than previous ones.
Speaking of the Tork, my only concern is that they didn't mess with the stats and boff layout any (beyond +1 boff seat, obviously): the Tork is an extremely good ship at T5U and I'd like to not have to completely rework Brokosh's ship.
Also, irritated at the lack of a warbird.
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For a nice change I like the designed of those ships. But unless they are good with mines its unlikely I will buy them. Any chance we could get a mine layer ship in game at some point? We have good ships for torpedoe boats, canons, pets, beams e.c.t but not real stand out ship for mines.
Yes I have seen it and it’s a terrible ship for mines. I abandoned it as it just does not work. I thought it would be workable as the one nice thing about it is the mines move extra fast. But that doesn't make up for all the other weak areas.
Also, they reduced the shared cooldown on mines quite a bit several patches ago.
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What will this mean for the Support Cruiser Retrofit? Will that ship be available in the C-store or will it remain exclusive to the players who unlocked it?
What is more disturbing than not having Romulan/Jem'Hadar Ships is the increase in costs for the Ships. A nine-pack is 12,000 Zen. Four of these two-packs will give 8 ships and will have a list price of 16,000 Zen for one less ship. They are also not Fleet grade so will require a FSM in addition to bring them up to equivalence.
Well at least to get a Fleet Level Ambassador now you only need one FSM and not four.
Still no Lifetime Jem'Hadar/Shuttle.
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I have concerns about these two-ship bundles, myself. However, I've learned that they're the result of limited resources being spread between Victory is Life and Age of Discovery. The lead ship designer does ships like this in the personal project time he gets as an employee of Cryptic. It's why we got the Lafayette/New Orleans, and possibly why we're finally getting T6 Vor'cha and Probert Ambassador. I'm hoping that once Age of Discovery out the door we'll get ROM and DOM versions of these ships.
When they added the Dominion faction I had concerns that 4-ship bundles and what would be 12-ship Mega Bundles would simply be outside of affordability, even for an STO whale like myself. Even with discounts a bundle of that size would likely be around $150. I suppose a solution to that is ship bundles for the major factions and then for the allied factions separately.
They've assured us in the livestream that they're not stopping development of Romulan ships. Let's see how that follows through.
As mentioned by others, the lack of Romulan ship is again disappointing.
The 2 designs are amazing, however, but whatever happened to the Tier 5 Kamarag?
The T5 Ambassador has been released as a freebie a couple times now, but the Kamarag just hasn't been seen since 2013.
Well, OK, the Kamarag is what the Vor'cha comes from originally, but at least let us have the parts of them all be interchangable in the Ship Customiser.
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You are without a doubt going to see FAR LESS Rom ships than you used to.
No, I'm not saying they won't make ANY new Rom ships. I'm saying they are going to make FAR LESS than they used to.
Whether that is "right" or "wrong" is debateable, but the devs should at least be HONEST about the situation and not pretend otherwise.
It's odd that people would still be surprised by a lack of a Romulan ship variant. To me this was the obvious outcome after they made endgame faction ships available to Romulan captains. Clearly they don't think that making Romulan variants are worth the effort anymore.
Cryptic definitely seems to be shifting resources around lately & sacrificing focus on the Rom-side of STO ships for now. I still remember someone in chat awhile back stating something about a shortened Dominion/Jem'Hadar chapter was probably because to focus on the upcoming Discovery content. I wonder if these ships will already be at T6 fleet tier or just T6 & 10 console slots?
oh look no romulan ship....again. This time we're adding a whole new type with new gimmicks and we're still too lazy to make a warbird...
this used to be the kinda 3 ship bundle I'd jump on immediately but, pass...
+1 here too as my main character is ROMULAN.
I actually do not like the look of this supposed Ambassador class design. It really SUCKS. Big time. Give us the Yamato alternate and I'd buy the FED ship. As it stands, nope. No thanks!
This KDF ship looks like it got hit with the ugly tree too. I'd buy more ships if they actually looked like TOS and/or TNG ships. I'm holding off in sheer disdain as it seems Cryptic is being spiteful with continued underwhelming starship designs.
For Pity's sake, look at the K'tinga! Now, look at yours. Look at the K'tinga again, and again, and again. Then build a T6 K'tinga!
oh look no romulan ship....again. This time we're adding a whole new type with new gimmicks and we're still too lazy to make a warbird...
this used to be the kinda 3 ship bundle I'd jump on immediately but, pass...
+1 here too as my main character is ROMULAN.
I actually do not like the look of this supposed Ambassador class design. It really SUCKS. Big time. Give us the Yamato alternate and I'd buy the FED ship. As it stands, nope. No thanks!
This KDF ship looks like it got hit with the ugly tree too. I'd buy more ships if they actually looked like TOS and/or TNG ships. I'm holding off in sheer disdain as it seems Cryptic is being spiteful with continued underwhelming starship designs.
For Pity's sake, look at the K'tinga! Now, look at yours. Look at the K'tinga again, and again, and again. Then build a T6 K'tinga!
Because a K't'inga and a Vor'cha are totally the same ship, right?
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2nd 2-pack release in a row, and no Romulan Warbird. I bet the next time we see a warbird, it'll be late next year, and in a promo pack, lockbox gamble, or lobi store.
Next ships to come out will be Discovery based with AoD...A.K.A. no Romulans in it.
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And in the meantime we can enjoy flying around the cool Tier 6 Vor'Cha. A maneuverable Klingon Cruiser that is a worthy member of the Klingon lineup.
But another lazy ship bundle. A while ago no time for more ships cause of AoD, and nowanother 2 for Fed and KDF only.
There is always something in development, so that’s not a valid reason not to include stuff.
ViL added ships during development and even some quick newbies after a while (Jemhadar experimental weapon)
You actually acknowledge the fact that allies who can fly there allies ships are from now on the low priority list and they can fly either KDF or Fed anyway.
The Pilot ship bundle was another fail. But at least all factions got a ship choice.
Less pilot seats then the previous one. The kdf and romulans just got a visual kitbash s(h)ame ship.
No sing core Romulan ships is a fail. Didn't know the Romulans downgraded just for that ship the Iconian template into a fed ship.
And i loved the Iconian Romulan look, but thats a matter of taste.
And for Andorian players they are great, but that’s where the 9 ships where developed for annyway.
Besides the event ships wise seating’s offcourse.
This is the 3rd Bundle which disappoints and a skippable bundle. There to expensieve as Admirality cards only.
And kinda done with "the no time" lies.
and the console its coming with will it be a two piece set since we don't have a c store Vor'cha to combine with it? and will its stats be as they should or copied and pasted from the fed ship. as they have done in past.
personally to the Rommy people crying I hate the bundles because they almost always turn out to be copy paste we would all be better off and have more diversity if they were single items. and I don't play fed side KDF only here.
but ill be optimistic on this and say you made a sale on a Klingon ship so long as its not gimped into a messed up copy paste Feddiefied garbage scowl.
Nicely hybridizes the Vor'cha and the Tor'Kaht, and that hammerhead bow looks a lot better than previous ones.
Speaking of the Tork, my only concern is that they didn't mess with the stats and boff layout any (beyond +1 boff seat, obviously): the Tork is an extremely good ship at T5U and I'd like to not have to completely rework Brokosh's ship.
Also, irritated at the lack of a warbird.
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It's not going to be a pure minelayer build, no. But try it as an energy primary, mine secondary: it can do some wacky stuff with Nukara web mines. Here's my build: https://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/d210c656ce1987b31501ac327800251b
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I know that was going to happen when they gave Romulans access to Fed and KDF ships.
I do like the looks are these, it will come down to the seating and consoles.
What is more disturbing than not having Romulan/Jem'Hadar Ships is the increase in costs for the Ships. A nine-pack is 12,000 Zen. Four of these two-packs will give 8 ships and will have a list price of 16,000 Zen for one less ship. They are also not Fleet grade so will require a FSM in addition to bring them up to equivalence.
Well at least to get a Fleet Level Ambassador now you only need one FSM and not four.
Still no Lifetime Jem'Hadar/Shuttle.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
When they added the Dominion faction I had concerns that 4-ship bundles and what would be 12-ship Mega Bundles would simply be outside of affordability, even for an STO whale like myself. Even with discounts a bundle of that size would likely be around $150. I suppose a solution to that is ship bundles for the major factions and then for the allied factions separately.
They've assured us in the livestream that they're not stopping development of Romulan ships. Let's see how that follows through.
The 2 designs are amazing, however, but whatever happened to the Tier 5 Kamarag?
The T5 Ambassador has been released as a freebie a couple times now, but the Kamarag just hasn't been seen since 2013.
Well, OK, the Kamarag is what the Vor'cha comes from originally, but at least let us have the parts of them all be interchangable in the Ship Customiser.
Will we gat a new ship no later than 2020 ?
Any other romulans starting to feel like a refugee on DS9 ?
Given a choice between the NO and a Rom/Dom equivalent for the Amby, the latter should have been the obvious way to go.
I'm also a little salty about the lack of a Kamarag but that's far and away the less important thing about this release.
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You are without a doubt going to see FAR LESS Rom ships than you used to.
No, I'm not saying they won't make ANY new Rom ships. I'm saying they are going to make FAR LESS than they used to.
Whether that is "right" or "wrong" is debateable, but the devs should at least be HONEST about the situation and not pretend otherwise.
Still hope, though.
It's odd that people would still be surprised by a lack of a Romulan ship variant. To me this was the obvious outcome after they made endgame faction ships available to Romulan captains. Clearly they don't think that making Romulan variants are worth the effort anymore.
In any case - Yay for T6 Ambassador, and I just *knew* that a T6 Vor'cha would make many people happy, so that's good too ;-)
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+1 here too as my main character is ROMULAN.
I actually do not like the look of this supposed Ambassador class design. It really SUCKS. Big time. Give us the Yamato alternate and I'd buy the FED ship. As it stands, nope. No thanks!
This KDF ship looks like it got hit with the ugly tree too. I'd buy more ships if they actually looked like TOS and/or TNG ships. I'm holding off in sheer disdain as it seems Cryptic is being spiteful with continued underwhelming starship designs.
For Pity's sake, look at the K'tinga! Now, look at yours. Look at the K'tinga again, and again, and again. Then build a T6 K'tinga!
As did I.
Because a K't'inga and a Vor'cha are totally the same ship, right?
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Next ships to come out will be Discovery based with AoD...A.K.A. no Romulans in it.