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ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael Member, Administrator Posts: 2,563 Community Manager
Two brand new starships - updates to the classic Ambassador and Vor'chas - are coming to Star Trek Online on PC, and soon Console! Check out the details here:

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10998853
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  • dragonhef01dragonhef01 Member Posts: 378 Arc User
    All my major fleet ships of the Hood family will now be T6s!!
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    vor'cha T6 whouhou! awesome. if it has good seats, it will be mine.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    oh look no romulan ship....again. This time we're adding a whole new type with new gimmicks and we're still too lazy to make a warbird...

    this used to be the kinda 3 ship bundle I'd jump on immediately but, pass...
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 3,773 Arc User
    edited September 2018
    For a nice change I like the designed of those ships. But unless they are good with mines its unlikely I will buy them. Any chance we could get a mine layer ship in game at some point? We have good ships for torpedoe boats, canons, pets, beams e.c.t but not real stand out ship for mines.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 9,991 Arc User
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    For a nice change I like the designed of those ships. But unless they are good with mines its unlikely I will buy them. Any chance we could get a mine layer ship in game at some point? We have good ships for torpedoe boats, canons, pets, beams e.c.t but not real stand out ship for mines.

    What makes a good mine layer? We did get the Summer ship with 5 rear weapon slots.

  • tritan2409tritan2409 Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    T6 Ambassador \o/ /happydance
  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,445 Arc User
    edited September 2018
    Nice. Probert's original Ambassador and she is a beauty. Was always a fan of the Vor'cha, she's a gorgeous ship, and the Vor'ral continues that tradition. Well done.

    More Jayce's Interstellar issues please.

    Now about that T6 Hegh'ta...
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  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    For a nice change I like the designed of those ships. But unless they are good with mines its unlikely I will buy them. Any chance we could get a mine layer ship in game at some point? We have good ships for torpedoe boats, canons, pets, beams e.c.t but not real stand out ship for mines.

    Uh...Have you not seen this ship?

    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Vorgon_Ytijara_Dreadnought_Cruiser


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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,263 Arc User
    In-universe, you'd think the RR would participate in the project because it was an ignominious moment from the RSE, to honor the fallen of their new allies and as a "memorial" of how their people don't pretend the past didn't happen and they have learned from it to go forwards and change for the better.

    But out-of-universe, nope, no time for green birb.
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  • alfred399alfred399 Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    oh look no romulan ship....again. This time we're adding a whole new type with new gimmicks and we're still too lazy to make a warbird...

    this used to be the kinda 3 ship bundle I'd jump on immediately but, pass...

    This would've been such a great opportunity to add a T6 Rommie version of the D7 warbird also IMO - feels like that would have fit within the early 23rd C before the might double D was designed
  • carguy1701#7145 carguy1701 Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    Well I'll be darned. We get a T6 Ambassador AND a T6 Vor'Cha to boot!
  • roninfelroninfel Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    Happy to finally have a T6 Vor'cha but once again no love for the Romulans. Fail.
  • tritan2409tritan2409 Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Yay.
    *Looks at signature*

    You just cant catch a break on this can you. :( *hugz*
  • nikolunusnikolunus Member Posts: 162 Arc User
    While I love more ship type diversity, gimicks and everything in between. I am a Romulan Main and this is a little cutting that the Republic was left out on this. I know we are not considered a full Faction but damn this does hurt a bit. If the new ship implimentation is going to keep going like this than maybe its time to develope the Romulan Republic into a full seperate Faction so that they can get equal treatment in the alliance.

    Honestly though I love both those ships, and am saddened that we Romulan players were left in the cold on this. I know we can use any T6ship of our faction but its really not the same in the least.
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  • atlmyklatlmykl Member Posts: 305 Arc User1
    I have decided to not spend any more money on this game now they have stopped putting out Romulan versions. The Romulan faction and Legacy of Romulus brought me to this game and now I am being shown the door. Would have bought the 3 pack
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
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  • sovereign010sovereign010 Member Posts: 629 Arc User
    Yeah, the lack of a Romulan version takes the shine off of this, depending on the stats a T6 Vor'cha sounds pretty awesome.
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,808 Arc User
    edited September 2018
    important questions:
    1, is the new vor'cha based on the Tor'Kaht's layout or are we in for disappointment.
    2. not really against it but why is the vor'cha paired with the Ambassador when it's not the kdf Support Cruiser the Kamarag is.
    3. did y'all remember the vor'cha having a c-store version having a console, meaning this one should have a 2 piece?

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  • disqord#9557 disqord Member Posts: 567 Arc User
    Yay, a T6 Ambassador! And so soon after the last ships we got, too!

    I do question making them Temporal rather than Miracle Worker. I mean, I guess it fits with the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" but the Ambassador is a SUPPORT Cruiser. I'm not seeing much "support" yet. Sure, I don't have stats, but it's not looking all that supportive. I guess the Guardian is still the real support cruiser sequel in all but name.

    Tell you what though, if you let us use all the standalone T5 and T6 consoles on any ship we want (Specifically the Guardian's) I'd be very happy. It's already been happening with the Recon ships, and even some console sets are freely equipable on all ships (Synergistic Retrofitting, Alternate Timeline Technologies, and even the Cardassian Intel ships, which come from the C-Store!)

    I'd be able to take that fancy Guardian console and put it on the new Ambassador T6, and properly play a defensive support ship! Or you could just put them in a set together, that would be cool too.

    In any case, I am looking forward to the stat reveal. Maybe it'll be more supportive than it looks at first glance. If not, I'll probs get it anyway because it's likely to have a truly universal console like the Recons, so I have that to look forward to. And since we're finally getting around to updating old ships...

    T6 Dysons when :3
  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,361 Arc User
    I told you the Guardian was not the T6 Ambassador!
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  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 3,773 Arc User
    edited September 2018
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    For a nice change I like the designed of those ships. But unless they are good with mines its unlikely I will buy them. Any chance we could get a mine layer ship in game at some point? We have good ships for torpedoe boats, canons, pets, beams e.c.t but not real stand out ship for mines.
    What makes a good mine layer? We did get the Summer ship with 5 rear weapon slots.
    Mines do not benefit from 5 rears in fact its counter productive and makes the mines worse. 5 rear mines perform worse than 3 mines. 5 rear mines of the same type cripples your ship due to the way everything interacts.

    Plus it has low tactical slots, a poor bridge officer layout for mine power combos and no access to top mine bridge officer powers. If that wasn't bad enough it has a poor weapon layout for top mine layer builds where you want master of mines and Deep Space Mines along side each other with clusters. All in all it massively underperformers as a mine layer compared to average mine layer ships.


    EDIT: Another problem is 5 mines of the same type will cause a chain reaction of the mines despawning before they get chance to hit the enemy. Due to the constant mine despawn with 5 launchers you get less hits and less damage than 3 mines. Also 5 mines hit gloable cooldown problems.


    pottsey5g wrote: »
    For a nice change I like the designed of those ships. But unless they are good with mines its unlikely I will buy them. Any chance we could get a mine layer ship in game at some point? We have good ships for torpedoe boats, canons, pets, beams e.c.t but not real stand out ship for mines.

    Uh...Have you not seen this ship?

    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Vorgon_Ytijara_Dreadnought_Cruiser
    Yes I have seen it and it’s a terrible ship for mines. I abandoned it as it just does not work. I thought it would be workable as the one nice thing about it is the mines move extra fast. But that doesn't make up for all the other weak areas.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,521 Arc User
    The Romulans have been in awe of this ship since the Battle of Narenda III. They had been able to fly the T5 version and now they can't wait to get their hands on this T6 version ;)
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  • jtoney3448jtoney3448 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited September 2018
    I got to say huge props for finally doing 2 ships people requested for so long, the Probert designed Ambassador class and the Vor'cha. Ill withhold the rest of my judgement till we see how good their stats turn out. Since people waited so long I hope they get a seriously nice upgrade. Since the Vor'cha is taking the place of the other support cruiser is it also going to get access to the Kamarag skin?

    Well done dev team, hopefully next up is the T6 nova, it needs a major overhaul.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 4,687 Arc User
    So they take the Guardian, slap on the Ambassador saucer and call it the Amby T6. Colour me not amused nor impressed. At least we do have 2 T6 Ambassador varients now though.
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  • worgausworgaus Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    I wouldn't mind a T6 Vorcha but these two packs are automatically super low on my priorities list. Maybe some day....
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    Well, T6 Vor'cha at long last!

    But we don't yet know what the Boff slots wil be (very varied predecessors), which can hurt a lot of expectations.
    And somehow the Vor'cha is bundled with the T6 Support cruiser, killing pretty much all hopes for a T6 Kamarag.

    Not quite sure how to feel about this... Doesn't help that the Vor'ral doesn't really look great (though my cherished Vorkang skin should be available. On the other hand, probert's Ambassador ain't bad.
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  • christopher082christopher082 Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    As much as I like the ships, No warbird, no money.
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