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Cardassian Yukuwa Frigates - total garbage?
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on paper... they sound great. but in practice... cryptic gave em sub par AI... so much so that even fighters do more dmg than these pets.
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Cosmetic difference make sense because different racial backgrounds etc as do tweaks in behaviour due to weapon loadout and abilities but the engines? Boggles the mind why some of them come fitted with a v12 and gearbox while others are stuck with a 2 stroke leafblower and they pass muster enough to be released into the game.
Indeed. My Durgath's baSro' frigates are so sluggish that the enemy is usually dead by the time they finally reach them... The Breen frigates, on the other end, have absolutely no problem keeping up with me whenever i use my Sarr Theln carrier.
Some dock and refuse to come out, others barely move from the spawn or if they do undock they nuzzle into the carrier like suckling puppies.
Jem hadar pets were fairly well behaved before but now they're coming across as having been lobotomised. Even the rommie drone is now prone to the odd hissy fit.
WTF is a "ToDujigrines?"
Thanks.. not sure why you spelled Peregrine that way, it's either another language I don't understand or a joke I don't get, but either way.. thanks for that.
I have to wonder what testing methodology was used to determine that Peregrines are 'the best' because that probably wouldn't have been my first guess. I would have thought Swarmers would be superior, but I admit I never tested them side by side.
Good info.. thanks. Oh, and on topic.. yes, the Yukuwa's are total garbage.. I am sorry if you wasted resources on those things. I know how you feel though, I bought Elite Callisto frigates once.. man was that a pile of Fleet Marks and Dilithium down the toilet.
Not convinced about the peregrines given they seem to go pop if a mouse farts in the next system over although certainly having to resummon fresh wings is the best current way of keeping hangar pets in the general vicinity of combat.
Its beautiful.
Hmm, does that take into account buffs and debuffs by the pets, for example Breens stripping shields with tachyon beams, or pinning ships with tractor beams?
Sounds solid enough.. I'll give the Peregrines a try.
Jem'Hadar gunboats really are powerful and behave somewhat better than most.
The Cardassian frigates need some balancing... they hit poorly and are slow, but the abilities they have are handy, like the slowing and the munitions thingie.
I think STO staff needs to update and overhaul the carrier pets urgently.
They get almost immobilized, which lowers their natural defence making them easier to hit.
Honestly it doesn't really matter in the long run what pet performs best. Some may have DPS, while others have utility. So in all honesty... if you're not min/maxing every last decimal point just run what you like. Its good to know the performance of different hanger pets, but like damage type... anything will work just fine if set up right.
Me personally... I found hanger pets with cannons to be rather spotty when it comes to their damage because they aren't always FACING the enemy to take advantage of said cannons. Its always turrets. Kinda why I prefer beam hanger pets. And if I'm flying a Xindi carrier... give me dem Elite Xindi-Primate Heavies. When they all shoot off Torp Spread 3... it is a thing a beauty.
Too bad their bound to Xindi ships.
Now, the Yukawas are pretty weak in general. They don't do terribly much damage, don't have much crowd control, and they don't do much flashy stuff. It's a shame they're so bad, because they're one of the already few universal friagtes, and I think it's the only one directly available from the C-Store. I prefer using the basic equipped pets on most ships, but in my experience the Peregrines/To'Dujs are probably the strongest, though there's plenty of alright fighters to go around. My main uses the Obelisk Swarmers most of the time, and with their extra defense beam, they make pretty useful interceptor crafts. I also plan to pick up the Elite Stalkers in case they make a T6 Atrox, but that's mostly because I like cats, and watching them all use their Antiproton Sweeps and Battle Cloaks at the start of a fight is going to be hilarious.
Also, quick little shoutout to the secret MVP of hangar pets, the shield drones! They do some seriously fast work (I mean filling up my Hyper-Capacitor shields to 24k in a matter of seconds), don't attract too much aggro, and generally make shields a billion times more useful than before.
It's this that I suspect that is causing so many issues with the different ships and pet combos, that code works well for some, not to bad for others and down right horrible for the rest.
The Sarr Theln/Plesh Brek combo got lucky in that it would appear to be a "perfect fit" for them, while some basically have broken hangar code.
Some things to try.
When you arrive on a map no commands have been issued yet, so launching your pets means they are in neutral, and should follow you without any issues, as long as you don't have a target selected or in weapons range, then you can select the attack command without it changing the way the pets behave.
Now selecting the nearest target is where things change, anything more than 15k away will cause some pets to stop dead and then start to meander around that area, and they normally completely ignore you after that. Selecting a target within 15k of you also brings up different initial behaviour, some are slow to realise they are meant to be in a fight but quickly get stuck in once they do, while others act like they don't want to fight, but once they get shot at they get stuck in.
The Intercept and Escort commands are pretty pointless for most, you can test them but I'd recommend not doing so on a mission map, as you will probably have to un-equip and then re-equip the pets to get them to accept attack mode again.
Eternal owners don't even think about using the recall command, as some of the pets will dock breaking the hangar and stopping the rest from docking, and those that did dock won't come back out again. It doesn't matter what pets you equip either as they all behave the same with this ship, for me it's pets are "fire and forgets", select attack mode and drop them in the middle of a furball.