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Im happy the Feds and Klingons are getting new ships. But bout the Jem'hadar and Rommies. I get why the cardassians dont get one
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  • philchapphilchap Member Posts: 240 Arc User
    philchap wrote: »
    Im happy the Feds and Klingons are getting new ships. But bout the Jem'hadar and Rommies. I get why the cardassians dont get one
    Same reason there is no TOS era version of the ship either.

    i forgot them
  • mikejf1220#5024 mikejf1220 Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    I agree man, I want the new ships too!
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 4,523 Arc User
    philchap wrote: »
    Im happy the Feds and Klingons are getting new ships. But bout the Jem'hadar and Rommies. I get why the cardassians dont get one

    Simple fact is Jem's AND Rommies do get access to those ships, and they've just released 5 Jem'Hadar Ships and 3 Cardi ships (not including the lockbox/Lobi T6 updates from T5U's). So they're not losing out. Let's not turn this into an 'equality' argument.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • jtoney3448jtoney3448 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    Im really glad that the STO team made the NO class. A month or so ago I and some others were talking about what kind of layout it could have. Really looking forward to this. Though I wish the raptor was a BOP since there is almost no BOP at T6 let alone in the cstore.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 9,533 Arc User
    That thread also has an official answer to OPs question near the bottom of page 1.
  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,734 Arc User
    Damn...they did it. They really did it. I said if they released the New Orleans I would put real money into this game...I have not put real money into this game in 2 or 3 years. Should I do it? Poll coming soon...not really.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 9,533 Arc User
    nikephorus wrote: »
    Damn...they did it. They really did it. I said if they released the New Orleans I would put real money into this game...I have not put real money into this game in 2 or 3 years. Should I do it? Poll coming soon...not really.

    Keep your promise. I did when we finally got the Andorian escort bundle after years of asking for it. Both ships look great, so if you have any KDF captains you might as well get the bundle.
  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,734 Arc User
    Yeah I am keeping my promise. My word is my bond...I just never expected to have to pay the piper. Damn it! :pensive:
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  • philchapphilchap Member Posts: 240 Arc User
    That thread also has an official answer to OPs question near the bottom of page 1.

    thanks, that does make alot sense
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 54,800 Community Moderator
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Let's not turn this into an 'equality' argument.

    Falling on deaf ears dude. Several people are already ranting about "THEY LIED TO US! THEY SAID THEY WOULD MAKE ROMULAN SHIPS AND THERE IS NO ROMULAN SHIP! THEY LIED TO US BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED TO MAKE THEM ANYMORE!"
    Obvious paraphrasing but you get the idea.

    Doesn't matter if we even hear from Ambassadorkael himself that we'll still get Romulan ships. The fact we're not getting one now is apparently proof positive that we're never getting any new Romulan or Jem'Hadar ships ever again and its time to pull out the pitchforks.

    Honestly that kind of kneejerk response just makes me facepalm. I'm frankly happy we're getting another canon ship. And yes this ship will have Galaxy style parts to make the New Orleans as she was back in TNG times. We don't have to stick with Andromeda style parts.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out a Delta Pack, Temporal Pack, and Gamma Pack
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 9,533 Arc User
    > Doesn't matter if we even hear from Ambassadorkael himself that we'll still get Romulan ships.

    We did hear from him, in the GNN thread.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 54,800 Community Moderator
    That's why I mentioned it. We DID, and people are still waving the "THEY LIED TO US" signs.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out a Delta Pack, Temporal Pack, and Gamma Pack
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  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    I wish they hadn't done that. But nooooooo--they one ship I find completely irresistible is that Recon Cruiser. It's like they knew. There goes my Christmas donation to the orphans.

    Again.
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,404 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    That's why I mentioned it. We DID, and people are still waving the "THEY LIED TO US" signs.

    What's your deal federation? Quit painting those who appreciate other factions and who desire other faction stuff by your broad brushes. Many of us predicted there would be a drought of Romulan ships for a long time coming. Here is the drought. I'm glad it was cleared up that Romulan ships are not discontinued indefinitely, and that they are sticking to the initial announcements that Rom content will still be made, seeing how it is a legitimate concern.
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,477 Arc User
    when was the last time they released a fed only ship? resolute or the carrier? since then it's always been a 3 pack cross faction ship. 1st time they have done a fed/kdf only release. this after they allow mini factions to use alliance ships. trend? one off case? time will tell.

    storywise... the rom repub cant really compete with kdf or fed for resources to field new ships. they are still rebuilding, they arent anywhere near how powerful the rom star empire was.
  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,070 Arc User
    The 2 newest ships look fine enough, but stats make the difference & no Romulan equivalent just seems lazy. No Jemmy version I can understand since their catalog of ships just released. It sucks that Cryptic seems to letting other game aspects fall to the waist-side to divert resources to Discovery, but I'm sure Discovery is the horse Cryptic has been told to follow. It will be interesting to see how Cryptic prices this 2-ship bundle since if they price it the same as a 3-ship bundle & players still buy it that just sets a "I'll pay more for less" precedent. Cryptic wouldn't do anything like that though. At least the Klingon ship is uses new assets.

    This just in ... the Romulan version for the Recon Destroyer was going to make it into the bundle but got denied because of tariffs.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 54,800 Community Moderator
    What's your deal federation? Quit painting those who appreciate other factions and who desire other faction stuff by your broad brushes. Many of us predicted there would be a drought of Romulan ships for a long time coming. Here is the drought. I'm glad it was cleared up that Romulan ships are not discontinued indefinitely, and that they are sticking to the initial announcements that Rom content will still be made, seeing how it is a legitimate concern.

    A: I never complained about any kind of "drought" or anything of the sort. I'm just tired of the kneejerk reactions and jumping to Worst Case Scenario rants and doomsaying.

    B: Cryptic never said anything about slowing down work on Romulan ships, so where this idea of a "drought" is coming from, I don't know.

    So honestly... my "deal" is just the same old Forum drama playing out once again. "Cryptic has betrayed us! Cryptic is evil!"
    *sigh*
    Been around long enough to see this over and over again, and honestly... I'm tired of it. Even when the Devs and CM come out and say "this is not the case", it is ignored in favor of "this is the case".

    Is this going to drive me out of the forums? No.
    My mindset is "lets wait and get more information" when it comes to these things. This worked out with Ambassadorkael clearing up some things, yet people are content to kneejerk attack even when we get more information that is positive. Any arguments to the contrary are ignored or in the worst cases people who don't agree with the kneejerk attacks are declared "white knights" or even "apologists" and attacked as well.

    So yea... this Fed is tired of trying to point things out that are actually positive in favor of lighting the torches.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out a Delta Pack, Temporal Pack, and Gamma Pack
    The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,626 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    philchap wrote: »
    Im happy the Feds and Klingons are getting new ships. But bout the Jem'hadar and Rommies. I get why the cardassians dont get one

    Simple fact is Jem's AND Rommies do get access to those ships, and they've just released 5 Jem'Hadar Ships and 3 Cardi ships (not including the lockbox/Lobi T6 updates from T5U's). So they're not losing out. Let's not turn this into an 'equality' argument.

    Giving Romulans and JH access to all of their factions ships was just a excuse to make less to no ships for the fractions.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,249 Arc User
    *flip desk*

    Really cryptic? REALLY?! A tier 6 New Orleans before a tier 6 Nova?!!!

    *head desk*

    Not that I'm not surprised the New Orleans is showing up and the raptor looks good but really? NEW ORLEANS?!! Over Nova?! Grrr.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,169 Arc User
    One battle at a time, I guess. Never say never.
    The B'Rel, TOS Connie made it into T6 after all.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 9,597 Arc User
    Thank you, lianthelia, for so quickly (and with no apparent sense of irony!) illustrating Rattler's point.
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 2,958 Arc User
    Well I have 100k zen not even being used since I don't care for what is left over in the c-store so I will probably get the new ships at least just the Fed one since there's no Romulan variant which I would also want to have.
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,404 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    You may be tired of it, but without people buying, playing, talking about, giving feedback be it negative or positive about 'off-content' there will be less of it. I was part of the people back in the day asking for more KDF content, and then more Rom content. We did get quite a bit of it. It was and still is awesome. I won't be quiet about that since it's a big part of what I still enjoy about this game, and less of it means fewer reasons to log in, do some grind. I will rant on and you are free to ignore it and enjoy federation content that there's no real shortage of.
    Hey folks,

    I understand the concern, so I want to assure you we aren't planning on never making another Romulan or Jem'hadar ship. I was just chatting with our concept artist, Hector, about designs for those guys. That being said, with everything that we're putting together for Age of Discovery in the fall, and the Anniversary in 2019, I wouldn't expect to see those ships right away. As always, we'll keep you updated.

    Age of Discovery is based on ST-D, which has to my knowledge so far zero Romulan anything. Anniversary is start of 2019. How long is long for just one ship? How 'bright' is the future knowing they can just sell 2-packs at the same price of 3 packs and have the minority factions play either one or the other? This is reason for concern.

    Another goes into what butcher job will go into Romulans should they also receive the Klingon treatment, and what unusual ships may come that further distances Romulans from dare I say Star Trek as we knew it.

    Where is the warbird destroyer with an experimental weapons slot and a "science flair"? It's not happening. Where's the Scryer equivalent for Romulans, or KDF? T'Laru's a carrier (where's subsystem targeting that's default to sci-carriers?), and not in the C-store. Where's the specialist temporal warbird? Also not here, except in the form of a federation-shaped Eternal (Wells spin-off), or a promo Valkis that's not a science ship. When federation starship traits became a giveaway to the other factions, and vice versa, it's another sign there won't be an equivalent ever made of those ships. Romulans, and KDF have special ships for the very reason that those who play other factions pay/play double or triple to have the extra perks outside of cosmetics.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,742 Arc User
    Cryptic has made it clear that there will never be a T6 Nova or a T6 Vor'cha.

    Why? Who knows.. but it's clear that neither one will ever happen.
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 2,958 Arc User
    I'm going to assume they wont T6-ify the Dyson Destroyers now that there is a push for ST:D content.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,742 Arc User
    My impression was that the Dyson Destroyerswere some of the worst selling ships that they had made at the time. They have never been popular and I would be really surprised to see them make T6 variants of those ships.
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 2,958 Arc User
    I'm just hoping that if they do they won't waste the 10th anniversary on them.
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