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Hi there I've been running Swarm across my account today and have come across 1 Player who dives into a mob of NPC's dies and then for the rest of the match fails to respawn. You can tell there's no connection/server issue as every loot drop he selects need on. I've reported him to a GM because technically he is bot farming the match.


Now my question is I've reported him to a GM for this behaviour do they actually look into these matters or I am sending a report into the dark reaches of cyberspace where it will never be seen again ? as this behaviour should not be accepted.
I'd leave the map and encourage the others to do the same if it didn't penalise us by handing out a leavers penalty to disrupt him.
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Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
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  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,327 Arc User
    Yeah they do look into things, just don't expect a response because they aren't going to tell you if they did anything against another player.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,742 Arc User
    I don't believe for one second that anyone will look into it.

    You're wasting your time.
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  • ussvaliant#6064 ussvaliant Member Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    You're probably right Askray they can't give me information about another players account DPA and all. So I can understand Seaofsorrows thoughts on reporting to GM.
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    Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,775 Arc User
    Whether they do anything or don't, they certainly won't tell you about it.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 54,800 Community Moderator
    ASKRAY! Long time no see!
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,243 Community Moderator
    They look at the reports they are sent of things like this, but legally can't tell you any actions taken against dude's account if any due to privacy concerns.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,367 Arc User
    They look at the reports they are sent of things like this, but legally can't tell you any actions taken against dude's account if any due to privacy concerns.


    I like your optimism, but seriously doubt they're doing anything with it at all. :)

    Does it matter, though? I've seen happen what the OP describes many times. But I don't care. My Jem has enough fire power now, that we rarely seem to miss the fifth person (/wheel). If they don't want to play, then they don't want to play. I'm just doing my thang, and as long as the mission doesn't fail (can you even fail Swarm Advanced?), I honestly don't care.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    They look at the reports they are sent of things like this, but legally can't tell you any actions taken against dude's account if any due to privacy concerns.


    I like your optimism, but seriously doubt they're doing anything with it at all. :)

    Does it matter, though? I've seen happen what the OP describes many times. But I don't care. My Jem has enough fire power now, that we rarely seem to miss the fifth person (/wheel). If they don't want to play, then they don't want to play. I'm just doing my thang, and as long as the mission doesn't fail (can you even fail Swarm Advanced?), I honestly don't care.

    Yes for those veterans around like us it's no issue but i'd imagine for a new player who is just starting to earn the various rep marks it could be pretty annoying. They want to get max rewards and some idiot going afk will potentially destroy any hope of that for them. You can see how that would annoy people, especially as the cooldown on the mission is 30 mins or whatever. You might not fail on advanced but you're still loosing potential rewards due to some afk looser.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,950 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    > @meimeitoo said:
    > I like your optimism, but seriously doubt they're doing anything with it at all. :)

    It's not optimism, the GMs actually talk to the community team fairly regularly (I know, I didn't think they existed either :tongue:). But DBJK is right, if they decide to do anything they're contractually not allowed to tell you.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,367 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    > @meimeitoo said:
    > I like your optimism, but seriously doubt they're doing anything with it at all. :)

    It's not optimism, the GMs actually talk to the community team fairly regularly (I know, I didn't think they existed either :tongue:). But DBJK is right, if they decide to do anything they're contractually not allowed to tell you.


    Thx for clearing that up. :)
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  • omega6theta1omega6theta1 Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    I'd say keep reporting this "player" if enough complaints come In they may put a watch on him, eventually some action will be taken.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,352 Arc User
    I'd say keep reporting this "player" if enough complaints come In they may put a watch on him, eventually some action will be taken.

    This - and wouldn't hurt to encourage other victims of his behaviour to report said player too.
  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,846 Arc User
    Sounds like the MI mentality is spilling into the main game, was bound to happen sooner or later, report them as much and as often as you can.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    Not engaging in optional objectives is not against ToS, so reporting them is a waste of both your time and the GM's.
  • ussvaliant#6064 ussvaliant Member Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    warpangel wrote: »
    Not engaging in optional objectives is not against ToS, so reporting them is a waste of both your time and the GM's.

    So your saying entering a public queue and deliberately dying within the 1st 10 secs and sitting out the rest of the match while the rest of the team play through the mission is ok and should just be tolerated and accepted ?.

    This person is doing nothing to earn his rewards other than leech off the work of others. This isn't Dyson Battlezone where you can just camp at a silo and wait for others to capture the zone for you and pinch the boss rewards which is a whole other can of worms



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    Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
  • bubblegirl2015bubblegirl2015 Member Posts: 817 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    Actually, they will respond but depends on severity of the issue. You get a much better response if it is forum related. In-game Holodeck might be a different story and good luck.

    I usually take it upon myself and put the player in "ignore". Usually, that way you are not supposed to be paired up with them in the future. Also, if you all know the person in a team is doing this AFK intentional why finish the mission. I have been in teams in which we just opt out to leave to TRIBBLE off the AFKer rather than to give him what he/she wants. At least you can sour the milk in the process for them.​​
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  • ussvaliant#6064 ussvaliant Member Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    Actually, they will respond but depends on severity of the issue. You get a much better response if it is forum related. In-game Holodeck might be a different story and good luck.

    I usually take it upon myself and put the player in "ignore". Usually, that way you are not supposed to be paired up with them in the future. Also, if you all know the person in a team is doing this AFK intentional why finish the mission. I have been in teams in which we just opt out to leave to **** off the AFKer rather than to give him what he/she wants. At least you can sour the milk in the process for them.​​

    As I mentioned I would normally leave but then i'm penalising myself with a leavers penalty on that character and the other 3 members if they stay and try to slug it out.
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    Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,742 Arc User
    By all means, follow the proper channels.. that is the best way.

    The reason I feel the way I do is because over the years I have seen players that were repeatedly abusive toward others or continually violated conduct rules. Despite multiple reports, I have never seen anyone actually punished in the game. It's gotten a little better recently, but I have seen players in this game that routinely engage in behavior that most MMO's would never allow.

    If the GM's in this game are supposed to be enforcing any type of code of conduct.. I am just going to say right here that they are terrible at their jobs. Star Trek Online effectively has no rules for player conduct, you can say and do anything you want. The only activities I have ever seen them actively stop are ones related to fraud. You can stand in ESD, hit your caps lock and spew racist, hateful, misogynistic, horrible things all day long and no one will ever do a thing about it. I really wish it wasn't true but it is.

    It's why I have zone in it's own tab which is off 90% of the time. I can't take all the hateful TRIBBLE I always hear in STO, the in game community is one of the most toxic and hateful I have ever seen and no one ever does a thing about it. That's why I don't bother to report anything, I don't believe Cryptic cares in the least.
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  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,846 Arc User
    The incident the OP describes is more like not engaging AT ALL which should not be acceptable behaviour is any queue.

    What they're doing is abusing the AFK penalty system to the detriment of others gameplay experience on the assumption that other players will pick up the slack.

    Been seeing this habit become more frequent in the gamma queue-zone specially for the final fight mainly because the reward is for being there not the outcome. Another reason why this new setup needed an option for folk to opt out of the forced group play.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Not engaging in optional objectives is not against ToS, so reporting them is a waste of both your time and the GM's.

    So your saying entering a public queue and deliberately dying within the 1st 10 secs and sitting out the rest of the match while the rest of the team play through the mission is ok and should just be tolerated and accepted ?.

    This person is doing nothing to earn his rewards other than leech off the work of others. This isn't Dyson Battlezone where you can just camp at a silo and wait for others to capture the zone for you and pinch the boss rewards which is a whole other can of worms
    No, it's a Swarm queue that auto-completes on timer regardless of what players do (or don't do), and everyone gets their reward.

    In the VBZ, people can actually steal your reward by camping the dinos and killing them all before you can get there. But unfortunately, that's not against the ToS, either. Blame Cryptic for designing a bad mission.
    I usually take it upon myself and put the player in "ignore". Usually, that way you are not supposed to be paired up with them in the future. Also, if you all know the person in a team is doing this AFK intentional why finish the mission. I have been in teams in which we just opt out to leave to **** off the AFKer rather than to give him what he/she wants. At least you can sour the milk in the process for them.​​
    Putting people on ignore has absolutely no effect whatsoever on queues. That's a myth.

    And you can't stop a Swarm queue from finishing, it's on an auto-win timer.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 4,523 Arc User
    Just keep on reporting. The more reports there are, the bigger an issue it becomes and the more it sticks out on the GM's radar. I don't care if the queue is on an 'auto-win' timer like Swarm or MI, if someone is AFK, they get reported at first opportunity. Tired of people thinking they should get something for no effort.
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  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,486 Arc User
    I reported a player for swearing and talking about taking drugs on the chat channel. Someone spoke to him since he banned me from the channel for turning him in and told several other members I did it. I won't apologize. His behavior was inappropriate for the game and I asked him nicely in a private text to stop. Someone spoke to him after I contacted a GM. Well done Cryptic!

    So NO, you are not wasting your time.
  • rotorblade573rotorblade573 Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited July 2018
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,679 Arc User
    Yes, no naming/shaming is a forum rule.

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    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.

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  • rotorblade573rotorblade573 Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    I totally agree with @ussvaliant.

    I know the Forum Police are going to screech no name shaming but this is the player I encounter in Swarm who did the exact same thing as the poster indicated >>(Redacted).

    And, when I inquired in Team Chat what was going on another player defended the “MIA AFK Un-spawned” player. I suspect that that player (Redacted) was his accomplice and/or owner.

    I think these players are queuing their Alts and farming bots for Marks but obviously they can only control one character at a time. By getting one character killed almost immediately that leaves just one character to control.

    What I have been doing when I encounter this is to stop playing and just sit cloaked. I announce to the rest of the Team that Player-X is MIA AFK and that I am not playing (not working 2x as hard) to get that player free Marks. Respect my decision. If the Team wants to continue playing with 3 players that is on them. I will take the free Marks too.
  • ussvaliant#6064 ussvaliant Member Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited July 2018
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    I know the Forum Police are going to screech no name shaming but this is the player I encounter in Swarm who did the exact same thing as the poster indicated >> .

    That was the exact player in question

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    Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
  • rotorblade573rotorblade573 Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    He He. I knew it!
  • fun4ever#6757 fun4ever Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    op, if want that people plays Q the way u want - make private Q...
    AFKing is allowed by game mechanic and GM will never ban ppl for it, so stop wasting they time...

    AFKers is similar to LOW DPS guys (and STO full of them and mb... u 1 of them?), so u can report them too.. Having 2k DPS and joing advanced/elite Q must be rewarded by permanent ban, lol...
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 3,414 Arc User
    op, if want that people plays Q the way u want - make private Q...
    AFKing is allowed by game mechanic and GM will never ban ppl for it, so stop wasting they time...

    AFKers is similar to LOW DPS guys (and STO full of them and mb... u 1 of them?), so u can report them too.. Having 2k DPS and joing advanced/elite Q must be rewarded by permanent ban, lol...

    there's a big difference between low DPS and going AFK. Going perma AFK (especially in a way the OP mention) is always an intentional act you must deside to do.

    Having low DPS could be a case of not knowing better sure it would be nice if people who were still learning the mechanics were in normals but lets be honest here, no-one plays the normal queues so new players can either join advanced queue or not play queues at all.
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