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zna1209
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So... Let me get this straight...
If I wish to progress past a level 40 ship, I either need to spend real money, or grind out 10 million EC per fleet module (which I need at minimum 4 of) in order to buy even a T5 ship. Am I understanding this correctly?
If so, then I'm done with this game. That's a ridiculous grind, even for a F2P game. I enjoy the game, and like the space combat, but holy TRIBBLE that's ridiculous. A fleet member told me I could wait for the event, but again.. I shouldn't have to rely on a time limited even just to progress. I work full time, I have a family, I don't have time for that.
Please tell me I'm understanding this incorrectly.
If I wish to progress past a level 40 ship, I either need to spend real money, or grind out 10 million EC per fleet module (which I need at minimum 4 of) in order to buy even a T5 ship. Am I understanding this correctly?
If so, then I'm done with this game. That's a ridiculous grind, even for a F2P game. I enjoy the game, and like the space combat, but holy TRIBBLE that's ridiculous. A fleet member told me I could wait for the event, but again.. I shouldn't have to rely on a time limited even just to progress. I work full time, I have a family, I don't have time for that.
Please tell me I'm understanding this incorrectly.
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"I work full time[...]" I'm guessing Cryptic is counting on that if you don't have time to grind out something, that you have a job and can toss them a few bucks (OK, 30 bucks) for a nice shiny ship.
Ah....so it's okay they made a 30GB FREE game for you to play without locking out any story content for you which nothing prevents you from progressing, to provide you with other alternatives to paying cash for ships, but it's outrageous that other players (yes other players, not Cryptic) set the prices on the exchange for Fleet Modules, and it's outrageous that Cryptic provide you with a T6 ship for participation in an Event?
This game is probably THE MOST GENEROUS F2P out there period!
You get Free T6 Ships, Free Weapons, Free Upgrades, Free Skill Respecs, Free Equipment, Free Bridge Officers, Free Duty Officers amongst other things. And by the way, you get a FREE ship at Level 61 too!
Final note. The ship you get at Level 40 IS Tier 5.
Personally, I like many of the T6 ships that have been given away better than I like some of the canon ships. Many of my toons fly them instead. The carrier we got at last year's Summer Event is a beast.
BTW: I will have the time to grind it out for both of my accts, my son's acct and my SIL's acct. That's how easy it is.
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> So... Let me get this straight...
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> If I wish to progress past a level 40 ship, I either need to spend real money, or grind out 10 million EC per fleet module (which I need at minimum 4 of) in order to buy even a T5 ship. Am I understanding this correctly?
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> If so, then I'm done with this game. That's a ridiculous grind, even for a F2P game. I enjoy the game, and like the space combat, but holy **** that's ridiculous. A fleet member told me I could wait for the event, but again.. I shouldn't have to rely on a time limited even just to progress. I work full time, I have a family, I don't have time for that.
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> Please tell me I'm understanding this incorrectly.
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> Ah....so it's okay they made a 30GB FREE game for you to play without locking out any story content for you which nothing prevents you from progressing, to provide you with other alternatives to paying cash for ships, but it's outrageous that other players (yes other players, not Cryptic) set the prices on the exchange for Fleet Modules, and it's outrageous that Cryptic provide you with a T6 ship for participation in an Event?
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> This game is probably THE MOST GENEROUS F2P out there period!
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> You get Free T6 Ships, Free Weapons, Free Upgrades, Free Skill Respecs, Free Equipment, Free Bridge Officers, Free Duty Officers amongst other things. And by the way, you get a FREE ship at Level 61 too!
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> Final note. The ship you get at Level 40 IS Tier 5.
I am not asking for everything to be handed to me, I am not averse to work, or effort. I only wish I had made my main (KDF Envy) after the Delta Recruit started, I could use those perks. I have a Federation Sci alt who's a Delta.
However, I do not like having to grind out massive amounts of a currency in order to progress.
I feel a bit better about progression now that things have been better explained. I love the story, it's by far the best written MMO I've played, and I love the space combat. I think I'll stick it out and see how things go.
Thanks for all the replies and clarification
Grinding is only "required" if you decide you absolutely must have something better and don't want to pay cash for it. BTW for much much less than the cost of 4 Fleet Modules, you can buy a quite nice (upgradeable) T5 ship and upgrade token off the exchange and breeze through most of the end game content, however, with Risa coming up, all it will take is an hour or so total of your time and you will get a nice T6 ship, unlocked for all characters on your account. Granted that hour or so is five minutes a day spread over 14 days, but it still only totals to a bit over an hour.
Um no, you have to grind for 25 days during the Summer and Winter Events. It's one reason that they're longer than the Anniversary. You do not play a FE for 400 vouchers, You do Flying High or the ice race for 40 vouchers.
Best thing you can do is get yourself leveled to 65, finish the reputation trees you have yet to start, check out the "budget builds" on youtube.
That timber wolf character does a few with most damage types and in the T5-U ships, you should check him out on youtube with notepad open and ready to take notes of what missions to be doing for what gear etc etc.
There is no need to go all in on a tier 6 zen ship ASAP, a tier 6 ship from the summer event will do and over all what tier 6 ships can do for you is minimal anyway, if your foundation is not solid.
So my advice is forget the zen ships at first, check out timber wolfs youtube channel, go through the budget builds and slowly build yourself up from there.
On a side note.
Then make a couple of jem hadar characters and use them as side characters, you want farmers that can be bringing in that dill for you, and at 8 k dill per character per day it will stack up alright for you with not much time or effort needed once you get really going with it.
I don't find them boring, I have fun with them the whole time.
> I wouldnt even worry about those sort of ships when your first starting out on this game.
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> Best thing you can do is get yourself leveled to 65, finish the reputation trees you have yet to start, check out the "budget builds" on youtube.
> That timber wolf character does a few with most damage types and in the T5-U ships, you should check him out on youtube with notepad open and ready to take notes of what missions to be doing for what gear etc etc.
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> There is no need to go all in on a tier 6 zen ship ASAP, a tier 6 ship from the summer event will do and over all what tier 6 ships can do for you is minimal anyway, if your foundation is not solid.
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> So my advice is forget the zen ships at first, check out timber wolfs youtube channel, go through the budget builds and slowly build yourself up from there.
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> On a side note.
> Then make a couple of jem hadar characters and use them as side characters, you want farmers that can be bringing in that dill for you, and at 8 k dill per character per day it will stack up alright for you with not much time or effort needed once you get really going with it.
I forgot to mention I'm on PS4, so no Jem'Hadar yet, I'm working on the Dyson Sphere reputation while doing my Admiralty, and just hit 55. Is there anything else I should be doing?
Doing a 5 minute activity once per day for 25 days is not a grind in any definition whatsoever.
Admiralty is one of the biggest incomes you can get whilst doing nothing where you'll earn a fair amount of EC and Dil from doing the Klingon and Ferengi tracks, but make sure you have completed the Fed and Rom ones too as they give 30k Dil once completed. Battlezones and PvE queues to build up Marks and Dilithium thereafter. Each Reputation gives a significant amount of Dil, and Marks when completed.
As Delta Recruit is still active, make sure you have created a Fed, Rom and KDF character and acquired the Tesseract Device on each before the event finishes. You can then complete the objective at your leisure after. The rewards for completing the objectives mount up and provide Account Rewards to other non-Delta characters, even new one you may create in the future.
One thing you need to remember in STO is that you are not competing against other players in almost everything. Only specific Competitive Marks PvE queues and PvP do you ever 'compete', but consider this.....you can't ever have your stuff destroyed or raided by another player. There is no rush! Just keep your eye out for Risa Summer Event, Q's Winter Wonderland and the Anniversary Event when they have the free event ship. That's 3 a year, and that's not including whatever other giveaways they do, which is usually two or three times during the year.
And when Victory is Life hits soon, you'll have even more to play with!
Everyone has real life constraint so you are no different from anyone else.
Given that Star Trek Online is a F2P game, it is generally not considered a burden to ask players to partake in events to get free stuff like a T6 ship. The amount of time required to do the daily event is not a lot once you get used to whatever there required daily event is. The upcoming Risa Summer Event requires you to do an obstacle course with a float (jet pack), it will take a bit of time to get used to using though some maybe the first few times it may take up as much as 9 minutes to do the course. But once you get used to it then you should be able to do it in about 5 minutes with the floater you can rent for 2,000 EC. Do the event for 25 days and you can collect the free T6 ship that will be unlocked for all your characters on your account; present and future.
STO is one of the most generous, if not the generous F2P games out there. If you cannot find the time to grind a bit from time to time to potentially get really good gear, then perhaps the game is not for you since you have other priorities that are more important than a mere game. Just be aware that you will probably have a difficult time finding a F2P game that does not have any grind whatsoever.
Well... having stated my piece... time to venture forth back into the Capital Wasteland in Fallout 3; a great buy-to-play game (well.... at least to me) that I purchased back in 2008. And it has no grind... well at least nothing comparable to the grind in a F2P game.
T6's are only available from events or by buying them.
I did say that I enjoy it for the whole 25 days. I agree, a five-minute activity is not a grind in any definition of the word grind. Just lots of people here call it a grind, so I used the word.
It's fun for the whole thing, to me.