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eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
I think it's time for a fifth admiralty set, the Dominion! This would enhance gameplay for all factions and captains of max level or 52 and above at least. Also, a new type of 10/10 reward would be cute (of course a special Admiralty epic card, but the campaign completion should yield something different than Dilithium or XP point or upgrade tech). What do you think? :)
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  • captainkoltarcaptainkoltar Member Posts: 895 Arc User
    Yes please!
  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    Sure why not but here's the question what's worth more than dil and XP at endgame? Don't get me wrong I'm not against an alternative reward but aside from marks there really isn't anything left they can put in.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    I’d like that and I’m sure we get it soon or later.

    I was a bit disappointed that the Ferengi admiralty 10/10 rewarded yet another 30k Dil as we get mountains of it already and we are beyond the daily refinement cap anyway here. Would perhaps 1 lobi (or more) crystal(s) instead be too much?

    As for the Dominion admiralty 10/10 we could use salvage or if it has to be dil again I’d rather take dil contribution vouchers for fleets.
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  • binebanebinebane Member Posts: 557 Arc User
    what about tradable boffs as 10/10 reward? no dont want salvage... you have lots of boring items for that and you get it from gamma recruit too... dont give them bad ideas
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    binebane wrote: »
    dont give them bad ideas

    Quiet a statement for someone suggesting bridge officer rewards out of admiralty campaigns. It’s not as if we would not get them out of basically everything else in game… :/
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  • disqord#9557 disqord Member Posts: 567 Arc User
    Eh, no thanks. Ferengi one came out recently, and we're still no closer to any new latinum items than before it came out.

    I can't think of anything else I want from a ToD, and juggling two of those things is hard enough.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    I was under the assumption that they would expand upon the latinum store when the DS9 expansion comes out, but that definitely wasn't the case strangely enough.
  • disqord#9557 disqord Member Posts: 567 Arc User
    ruinthefun wrote: »
    Things that would be worth having out of a new 10/10: Dominion Tech Accelerators go with our Romulan Upgrades.

    So in other words, just a second Romulan Admirality? I thought people were complaining about the Ferengi Admirality because it was a second Klingon one.
  • omega6theta1omega6theta1 Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    I wouldn't mind seeing a Dominion admiralty give ultimate tech upgrades as the 10/10 reward... it may infringe on the key box sales a bit but 1 every 10 days wouldn't be bad.
  • charon83charon83 Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    500 reputation marks of choice at 10/10 for dominion would be sufficient and something worth pursuing atleast on alts.
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    I'm not even farming the Fed and Romulan ones anymore. I completed those and now just focus on the KDF and Ferengi ones for the dilithium rewards. Ferengi is especially nice since it gives large chunks of latinum and ECs. KDF seems to be the second most profitable. Now if a new one let you gathered say colony provisions or something that'd be interesting.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    It would be nice if they could think up something that would get players back in the game to play something other than these "click-y" things.

    Like attracts like...and, right now, they made Admiralty the main attraction.

    Which does nothing for the PvE queues. You put Rep Marks in Admiralty, you put the last nail in the coffin of PvE. Except for the new FE runs....if that. PvP is already pushed out to the extreme edges.... and PvE is getting there, too, with the DPS stuff.

    It would be nice to see they try to shore up the casual players for PvP and PvE.
    Not just sending us off to crafting, upgrading, re-rolling mods and filling out bars for Rep and Specializations.

    Seriously, don't you want to have your friends come back to play with you?
    Do you really just want to sit here Admiralty-ing away all by yourselves?
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  • binebanebinebane Member Posts: 557 Arc User
    binebane wrote: »
    dont give them bad ideas

    Quiet a statement for someone suggesting bridge officer rewards out of admiralty campaigns. It’s not as if we would not get them out of basically everything else in game… :/
    i believe all writen statements are quiet. if you mean quite than i was thinking about different boff that would come from gamma quadrant. that would make it special since we dont have many gamma quadrant ones...
    ruinthefun wrote: »
    Things that would be worth having out of a new 10/10: Dominion Tech Accelerators go with our Romulan Upgrades.
    that would be fun too
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,342 Arc User
    Salvage and Latinum as Admiralty Campaign rewards are pointless at this time. I'm overflowing with the stuff.

    Lobi as a Reward would be fantastic!
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Lobi as a Reward would be fantastic!
    They did that once and I doubt they'd do that again, especially not for admiralty.

  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    I would vote +1 for a Dominion Admiralty. Yes. Absolutely. Not only would I enjoy getting another Epic Admiralty card (when level 10 is reached), but more 10/10 campaign rewards are always welcome whatever they may be (someone mentioned unlocked Jem BOffs. Great idea!).


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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    There are three things they could, theoretically, reward from a new admiralty campaign.

    1. Something entirely new and unique that can't be gotten anywhere else.
    2. Even more dilithium, because there's still a chance someone might not be getting their quota every day from the klingon and ferengi campaigns.
    3. Something that everybody ignores in favor of the klingon and ferengi campaigns.
  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    Because more grinds for meanial rewards is even more fun!
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Well some of the admiralty grinds are fine. The KDF and Ferengi ones that reward large sums of dilithium are a nice way to stock up for the next phoenix event. I upgraded almost 3 toons to full gold MK XV from the last round. And I was slacking not logging in every day.
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  • usskentuckyusskentucky Member Posts: 402 Arc User
    Please, for the love of Kahless, no more grind menu-games.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,867 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    jade1280 wrote: »
    Because more grinds for meanial rewards is even more fun!

    In this case, yes. I keep admiralty casually running in the background and as a direct result I don't have to intesively grind PVE queues to afford what I want in STO. I can play whatever, including building in the Foundry, without feeling like I'm making an uncomfortable trade-off to earning potential. Comparing this to other F2P MMO's, I prefer STO's setup.
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  • captainkoltarcaptainkoltar Member Posts: 895 Arc User
    or if it has to be dil again I’d rather take dil contribution vouchers for fleets.

    Why would you rather an item that was more limited in its use? If you got Dilithium, you can use it to donate to the fleet if you want.

  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    or if it has to be dil again I’d rather take dil contribution vouchers for fleets.

    Why would you rather an item that was more limited in its use? If you got Dilithium, you can use it to donate to the fleet if you want.
    Because vouchers don't have to be refined. For the most part, klingon and ferengi admiralty already fills up the refining quota as it is.

    Also, hell no. We don't need to negate what little dil sinks the game has.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    or if it has to be dil again I’d rather take dil contribution vouchers for fleets.

    Why would you rather an item that was more limited in its use? If you got Dilithium, you can use it to donate to the fleet if you want.

    Unfortunately the enthusiasm of contributing to fleets reaches its limits rather soon when it comes to Dil. That counts at least for most players leaving the job to do it to only a few. With the latest holding we talk about some 65-80mil Dil overall costs which are hard to cope with even for the most enthusiastic players. One can cheat the system a bit with alts but in the end it remains a huge time sink for those who care.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    ruinthefun wrote: »
    Things that would be worth having out of a new 10/10: Dominion Tech Accelerators go with our Romulan Upgrades.

    This would be great. They should work as accelerators that increase chance for rarity increase. That would pair very nicely with the Romulan one.
    Why would you rather an item that was more limited in its use? If you got Dilithium, you can use it to donate to the fleet if you want.

    Not really.

    As it is right now it rewards Dilithium Ore, that cannot be donated to fleets.. only refined dilithium can be donated to fleets and we have a set amount that we can refine per day. Ore tends to pile up, but we can't do anything with it except refine it at a slow and steady interval.

    The big problem with Fleet Dilithium donations is that we can only refine so much per day and donating it to our fleet can be tough because most of us really need the refined Dilithium. Personally, I would love to be able to donate Dilithium to my fleet, but I can't.. I just have too much use for it, it's my main source of income. Since I trade it for Zen it's what gets me store items as well as EC through sales of Master Keys.

    If however, instead of getting 30k unrefined dilithium, I got 30k Dilithium Fleet Voucher.. that would be great. I can donate that right over to my fleet and it wouldn't take resources away from me that I need for other things. I can still freely do the the Klingon and/or Ferengi campaigns for my personal supply, but now I can get something that lets me help my fleet develop. My fleet gets their projects going, I get Fleet Credit.. it's a win/win.

    A fleet Dilithium voucher reward is actually a very good idea. Some of us would like to donate more to our fleets, we simply can't.
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  • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    Supply and demand - you cannot alter any of the current uses (demand) for dil without impacting the entire in-game economy for Zen, EC, and dil.

    Depending on how much dil actually goes toward fleet donations, you could simply be flooding the market and driving prices down. While fleet donations are fixed along with other uses like upgrades, the remaining markets are variable and will effectively absorb whatever differential is created. While obviously not as sensitive as foreign exchange markets in the real world, the behavior when stuff like Phoenix boxes drop suggests a fairly robust market.
  • disqord#9557 disqord Member Posts: 567 Arc User
    What about letting us donate ore to our fleets? That way the exchange rates and all the different uses for dilithium won't be changed, and we don't have to worry about any radical market shifts.
  • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    What about letting us donate ore to our fleets? That way the exchange rates and all the different uses for dilithium won't be changed, and we don't have to worry about any radical market shifts.

    Same impact. You are substituting using ore for refined dil, therefore, more refined dil becomes available for other uses. More dil in the market.

    It's not that it would be impossible, but you'd really need to think through the wider economy and brace yourself for swings in traditional value savings vehicles like keys - which would in turn impact the EC value of anything obtained from lockboxes and sold on the Exchange.

    The issue comes down to which segment of player base would be most/least impacted. I would be willing to bet that the most profitable segments of the player base for cryptic would be most impacted as they are the ones with the most "resources" invested in the game - people trading in the millions of dil on the market. Even a swing of 250 dil to 255 dil to per zen has a big impact when you're trading in the tens of millions of dil each month.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    Sure why not but here's the question what's worth more than dil and XP at endgame? Don't get me wrong I'm not against an alternative reward but aside from marks there really isn't anything left they can put in.

    Well, we have two admiralty campaigns that give us lump sums of dil. It seems logical that the next step would be to add a second xp based admiralty and a second upgrade based admiralty.
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