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spy8446spy8446 Member Posts: 585 Arc User
I was wondering if I could get some ideas for a Plasma space build.
I have the Romulan and Borg sets on my ship, but the other plasma weapons I have are just standard.

any recommendations for weapons or consoles?

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    seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    Plasma is in a pretty bad spot set wise. There really aren't many good sets, most are pemium from lockbox/lobi stuff and none of them does anything besides the cat1 +plasma energy suff. Most noteably the console set from the Prototype Dreadnought Cruiser which is a pain to get or the still rather new bajoran set 2pc bonus. Off the top of my head there's also the Plasma Wave console from the Na'kuhl lock box but that also only does +20% cat1 or something, so unless you don't have enough tac consoles it's still not great.

    Just go with crafted weapons, ideal mods and rep/fleet consoles useful to your overall build.
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    peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    Think @seriusdave covered it.
    Full list of sets and other items can be found at wiki.
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Plasma_Beam_Array
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    What dave said is pretty spot on, Plasma is not in a great place.. there just isn't much out there specifically for plasma and what is out there is lockbox/lobi stuff.

    If you're going with one of the Faction Flagships (Odyssey, Scimitar, Bort) you can use the Flagship set provided you own the pack. Those give a bonus to Directed Energy Damage, so they work equally for all types of energy. If you're on a Romulan or Klingon, you can get things like the Dynamic Power Redistribution Module much cheaper then a Fed since you only have to buy the equipment pack and not the entire ship.

    There is really nothing that's just going to help your Plasma Damage specifically so you're going to be looking for things that up Directed Energy Damage in general. You can also look into things like the Timeline Stabilizer (part of the Flagship set, granted from event) and other things like D.O.M.I.N.O. that speed up your firing cycle. Even something like the Domino that boosts Phaser can still be a use to you because the 'clicky' will give you a nice damage boost.

    As far as the weapons, the best are Crafted or Fleet. Just look for 'good' mods like Damage, Critical, and/or Pen. Avoid the Romulan Plasma, they sacrifice a Weapon Mod for a proc who's effectiveness is debatable to put it mildly.
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    humblesheephumblesheep Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    The (crafted) PEP torpedo is better than the Borg or Romulan ones (though I love the look of both of them).

    The Borg console is good, the 2 piece bonus is occasionally useful, but the 3 piece set bonus only temporarily raises the BA to about the same damage as a DBB; so your better of with non 'rep' weapons.

    All the other main weapon types have had new stuff over the last couple of years, perhaps, after the Hur'q, it'll be plasmas turn to get some 'love'.
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    seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    The PEP torp is only good when you have a high EPG stat, if your exotic plasma cloud isn't buffed out then all that's left is a subpar plasma torp with a very weak base damage.
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    spy8446spy8446 Member Posts: 585 Arc User
    man that sucks, ive been setting up my ships weapons with the "canon" type mostly for the lols but I would have expected them to at least be well rounded in general in some respective way. thanks for the help anyways.
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    spy8446spy8446 Member Posts: 585 Arc User
    OH another question, the borg have the ability to fire a ....... plasma bolt? that drains shields, can players have that ability too or is that NPC only?
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Canon-wise, Romulans used Disruptors, so don't feel too bad about switching B)
    spy8446 wrote: »
    OH another question, the borg have the ability to fire a ....... plasma bolt? that drains shields, can players have that ability too or is that NPC only?

    Borg Shield Neutralizer?

    We don't have that ability specifically but there are special shield oriented attacks. Not sure how viable they are because it's been a long time since I played the game hardcore. But some examples:

    Quantum Phase Torpedo with 2 pc Bonus.

    SCI BOFF ability Tachyon Beam - Direct shield attack.
    SCI BOFF ability Tyken's Rift - Does not specifically go for shield stripping directly, but it attacks Subsystem Power levels which can affect Shields.
    SCI BOFF ability Energy Siphon - See above.

    Just some examples. Note that these abilities are dependent on DrainX. The last time I played a lot, if you had a dedicated science drain build, you could shut targets down. Their shields flicker and turn off, weapons hit like wet noodles, etc. because their Subsystem Power Levels plummeted.

    A while back I was using one of those T6 KDF Science ships in a Drain Build, using Aceton Assimilator, Tyken's Rift, Energy Siphon, trying out something like Counterpoint Advanced, and literally "turn off" Terok Nor because of the drains, or at the very least vastly reduce its effectiveness against players.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
    If you're interested in different flavors of Plasma...
    • Plasmatic Biomatter
    • Isolytic Plasma
    • Ferenginar Plasma (newest addition)
    • Corrosive Plasma
    • Chronoplasma

    Just be aware that these are Lockbox so they would be a bit pricy on the Exchange.
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    themadrigogsthemadrigogs Member Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    spy8446 wrote: »
    OH another question, the borg have the ability to fire a ....... plasma bolt? that drains shields, can players have that ability too or is that NPC only?

    The console that comes with the Laeosa (and T6 Nebula/Naj'sov) destroys shields pretty completely, and it's not even a single-target ability.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
    spy8446 wrote: »
    OH another question, the borg have the ability to fire a ....... plasma bolt? that drains shields, can players have that ability too or is that NPC only?

    The console that comes with the Laeosa (and T6 Nebula/Naj'sov) destroys shields pretty completely, and it's not even a single-target ability.

    Isn't that an AoE centered around your ship?
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    themadrigogsthemadrigogs Member Posts: 207 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    spy8446 wrote: »
    OH another question, the borg have the ability to fire a ....... plasma bolt? that drains shields, can players have that ability too or is that NPC only?

    The console that comes with the Laeosa (and T6 Nebula/Naj'sov) destroys shields pretty completely, and it's not even a single-target ability.

    Isn't that an AoE centered around your ship?

    Yeah, you have to stay within a decent range of the ships, but the drain is phenomenal.
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    vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
    OP you CAN get a decent plasma build as long as you are not a Min-Max type. any energy type can be built to do end game content. my Rom biuld is decent, will do well enough at end game.

    each beam array is putting out over 1k DPS, and nothing special is in the design. it is not even optimised

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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    Oh, it's absolutely do-able.. no doubt. I have a Romulan running a Khopesh plasma build and she has absolutely no trouble clearing a screen of even the toughest enemies.

    Don't take any of this to mean that Plasma isn't viable.. it certainly is, just as any energy type is. It's just that Plasma has the least amount of set item buffs so if you want to run Plasma, you have to get a little more creative. If you WANT to run Plasma.. run plasma.

    It's not like you'll suck, you'll just build a little differently then you would with other energy types.
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    bossheisenbergbossheisenberg Member Posts: 603 Arc User
    Do a search for best weapon types on these forums - I recall one a few months ago where plasma was determined to be one of the worst, if not the worst damage type in the current meta. I think it is due to DOT being almost totally useless in the current state of the game.

    As someone above said, it will be more about the quality of the rest of your build than anything. Use temporal spec with plasma as it boosts the DOT. I believe the temporal rep set also boosts DOT damage - you could play around with that.
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    captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    The romulan plasma disruptor from romulan rep, does that count as plasma, disruptor or both in terms of bonuses?
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    The romulan plasma disruptor from romulan rep, does that count as plasma, disruptor or both in terms of bonuses?

    As far as boosting the damage with consoles goes, it's considered Plasma. The energy type is Plasma with the Disruptor proc, Disruptor boosting items will not boost Romulan Plasma.

    Just remember, you trade a mod for that proc which is what makes Romulan Plasma (in my opinion) the worst weapons in the game. It's not that the proc is bad, but it's certainly not worth trading a mod for.
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    mrsinister82mrsinister82 Member Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    The romulan plasma disruptor from romulan rep, does that count as plasma, disruptor or both in terms of bonuses?

    It does plasma damage so it is only boosted by plasma dmg consoles set bonuses etc, but it also gives you the disruptor "proc", which is the resistance debuff.
    Corrosive plasma is one of the best to use but they are pricey on the exchange due to them not only coming out of a lockbox, but the corrosive plasma weapon boxes are complete pot luck whether you get a beam for your ship, a pistol for ground or a single cannon etc etc.
    Really wish they would make those boxes multiple choice as they have for others.

    To the OP.
    Check out Timber Wolf >>> www.youtube.com/user/TheTimberwolf1701

    Some good videos, a couple of good plasma dps builds, not sure if he did a budget one or not for plasma but still, some good advice in that channel.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
    Just remember, you trade a mod for that proc which is what makes Romulan Plasma (in my opinion) the worst weapons in the game. It's not that the proc is bad, but it's certainly not worth trading a mod for.

    Its not just Romulan Plasma that does that. Pretty much every hybrid weapon other than Dominion Polaron trades that mod for the second proc. Phased Polaron, Phased Tetryon, Polarized Disruptor... I think even Spiral Wave Disruptors do that now. Dominion Polaron has both a Polaron and Tetryon proc but doesn't have that restriction.
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Dominion_Polaron_Beam_Array
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    seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Do a search for best weapon types on these forums - I recall one a few months ago where plasma was determined to be one of the worst, if not the worst damage type in the current meta. I think it is due to DOT being almost totally useless in the current state of the game.

    As someone above said, it will be more about the quality of the rest of your build than anything. Use temporal spec with plasma as it boosts the DOT. I believe the temporal rep set also boosts DOT damage - you could play around with that.

    It's not only because of the dot, the main reason really is the big lack of support plasma got over the years. When you compare it to phaser (quantum phase, trilithium enchanced) or disruptor (house of martok, nausicaan) you'll see why it fell from grace.
    I't perfectly fine for endgame but dosen't have the potential some other types now have. Though I think plasma has the best weapon visuals among it's types, I'm running a chrono-plasma beam boat just because of that.

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    darkknightucfdarkknightucf Member Posts: 1,546 Media Corps
    I had put together a Plasma torpedo build and demo (pre S14). Later on, I also load up Quantums on the same ship.

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    tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    Been wracking my brain to come up with a plasma build, and here's what I have:

    2*Synergistic Retrofitting (Exchange)
    Plasma Wave (Exchange)
    Bounty Hunter's Friend (Lobi)
    Sustained Radiant Field (Rep)
    Zero Point Module (Rep)
    Temporal Disentanglement Suite (Mission)

    +Plasma tac consoles

    Corrosive Plasma Torpedo
    Hyper Plasma Torpedo
    Experimental Plasma Beam

    2*Bajor Defense Set (Mission)
    2*Romulan Rep or 2*Nukara (Rep)

    Without Lobi, sub Bounty Hunter's Friend for Assimilated Module and Corrosive Plasma Torpedo for Particle Emission Plasma Torpedo.

    This setup gives 3 set bonus buffs to plasma energy, 2 set bonus buffs to plasma torpedoes, and the standalone buff from the plasma wave console with most things available from relatively easy sources.

    For plasma energy types, I like Chronoplasma or Corrosive Plasma, but that's subjective.
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    spy8446spy8446 Member Posts: 585 Arc User
    humm didnt know about ..... most of these items XD
    ATM I was just going to get the rest of the borg rep set for my ship, have the weapons (full set) and the romulan rep weapons (full set) its just everything else thats up in the air.
    is there a way I could show you the build?
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    seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    https://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/
    Takes a bit of time to recreate your build but that's a good option.
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