"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I don't understand why people don't like this fight. I've always enjoyed it, and I have done it so many times.
Fleet Admiral Duane Gundrum, U.S.S. Merrimack
Fleet Admiral Ventaxa Proxmire, U.S.S. Shaka Walls Fell
Blog: http://www.sarbonn.com/?page_id=1990
Foundry series: Bob From Accounting & For the Sake of the Empire
One way to fix this is that when you interact with a collector, you have the choice of directing its power to the defenses (as normal) or the anti-tachyon pulse (taking X seconds off the timer).
also your closing portals and 1 hit and wham sorry start again.
Agreed; that particular mechanic is long overdue for expunging from the game.
That said, look at the bright side - plenty of targets for starship mastery progression, and drops to sell/salvage.
Please tell me you've streamlined this event properly like you did with The Breach, this time last year all you did was make the cutscenes skippable while not actually shortening the mission. Just taking a few minutes off the timer would do it, cut it down from 15 to 5 or (maybe) 10. Problem solved. Otherwise with my ten toons it's gonna take me 3 hours a day to run through it with all of them.
Otherwise with my ten toons it's gonna take me 3 hours a day to run through it with all of them.
Why would you want to run it on all your alts? The torpedo is an account unlock and there are easier ways to make 50k Dilithium. May not even take 2 weeks to earn that Dilithium.
I used to run these events on as many alts as I could, I burned out. Now that these events have account unlocks I run one, and done. To Gre'thor with the extra Dil and marks, like I said, easier ways.
Hello. My name is iamynaught and I am an altaholic.
Otherwise with my ten toons it's gonna take me 3 hours a day to run through it with all of them.
Why would you want to run it on all your alts? The torpedo is an account unlock and there are easier ways to make 50k Dilithium. May not even take 2 weeks to earn that Dilithium.
I used to run these events on as many alts as I could, I burned out. Now that these events have account unlocks I run one, and done. To Gre'thor with the extra Dil and marks, like I said, easier ways.
Same. Luckily I have a full set of terran things on all my alts from maxing out previous runs, so I literally don't have to play for at least 10 more mirror runs if I choose not to.
I'll keep playing, but at a slower rate, just to avoid completely draining my reserves. But I'm so burnt out on events. Though I wouldn't mind playing CC again.
Starship mastery (and unique item) is one reason I still play MI. Dilithium is nice too, since I don't grind in others ways, these events are a major source of dil for me, and after saving up for months and pooling all my alts, I usually have enough to get the next nice ship pack on the C-Store.
Otherwise with my ten toons it's gonna take me 3 hours a day to run through it with all of them.
Why would you want to run it on all your alts? The torpedo is an account unlock and there are easier ways to make 50k Dilithium. May not even take 2 weeks to earn that Dilithium.
I used to run these events on as many alts as I could, I burned out. Now that these events have account unlocks I run one, and done. To Gre'thor with the extra Dil and marks, like I said, easier ways.
Same. Luckily I have a full set of terran things on all my alts from maxing out previous runs, so I literally don't have to play for at least 10 more mirror runs if I choose not to.
I'll keep playing, but at a slower rate, just to avoid completely draining my reserves. But I'm so burnt out on events. Though I wouldn't mind playing CC again.
Starship mastery (and unique item) is one reason I still play MI. Dilithium is nice too, since I don't grind in others ways, these events are a major source of dil for me, and after saving up for months and pooling all my alts, I usually have enough to get the next nice ship pack on the C-Store.
I too have a full load of the the Multidimensional Transporter Devices squirrelled away on most of my alts so I can claim the reward on day 1. The decision on whether to claim the dil reward separately on each one will depend entirely on if the event has been streamlined. If it still takes 20 mins per run it's gonna be "Oh hell no!". If it takes less I might be persuaded to run it more.
Yeah, the timer needs to go! I've been in good groups that closed all the portals, and wiped all the invaders and charged all the satellites, and then had to sit and do NOTHING for 5 minutes while waiting for the timer to run out.
Seriously, Cryptic, STO is not a game at that point, it's a screensaver that eats your Internet connection. Kill the timer!!
The last time I ran this I did it on three or four Characters only. Before that five or six Characters. This time I will do it on one Character only and it will be the one that has the most MTDs in Inventory.
The recent Breach Event I only did it on one Character; the time before that I did it on all fourteen of my Characters (and regretted that after about eight days in).
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I am just gonna do this event and then thats it for events for me till ViL comes in..Too many events over the past months..We've had them actually every week...And if the summer event pops in then its a pass from me..And with the delta recruit event coming to an end on the 17th of this month plenty of players will want a break before ViL comes in with the new ques, sectors, quadrant and other content...
The devs need to nuke the timmer for this que and introduce a mechanic to kick AFKers and allow other qued players to join in, also that one hit and restart mechanic needs to be nuked!!
I just ground a Fed Delta and just finished the Rom delta, doubt I will finish the kling delta..I am slowing down to impulse speed to get to ViL..
Would have loved to have seen a sliver of specs or details of the agony phaser torpedo, never heard of a phaser torp before..
Might do two myself... got a guy on 13 for last time so he can complete it, get 14 for next time and run another to get the current item
To be honest, I hate the afk community on sto (well, unless they run private instances) but I have to admit, the idea of mirror helling once more for half a month fills me with despair as its frankly not fun so I can see their point slightly
If you could close portals without some near invisible fighter plinking you at 99% completion, it would go a great deal towards allieviating the pain - as would removal of the timegate
That though would not happen as mirror torture is a goldmine ideal for inflating metrics - a large player base locked into a mission for 15+ minutes - and a reward that is laughable for time invested (seriously, I did the maths a while back - running isa/ce over and over (using alts to circumnavigate cds) for the same amount of time taken to run the 14 runs of hell gives me in total far, far more than 50k of dil (especially if you include mark conversion; hourly or lump 10x) with less pain and afking)
To be honest, I hate the afk community on sto (well, unless they run private instances) but I have to admit, the idea of mirror helling once more for half a month fills me with despair as its frankly not fun so I can see their point slightly
I have the same feeling. During the Sompek event, someone in my PUG was complaining that he was wasting 10 minutes in the timed event because the rest of us actually wanted to play it.
If people don't want to play the mission as intended, form a private queue and stay out of the public PUGs.
That's what I do with Mirror. I join private afk queues if I want to relax.
Well I just ran this, and wouldn't you know it but it's identical to last year with the only streamlining they did was skipping the cutscenes. The reward is a lot like the Vaadwaur one, only the torpedo is boosted by phaser damage instead of antiproton. And because only two of my characters actually use phasers, they're the two I'm doing this with. I've claimed the reward for those two already, I'm just going through the motions in re-stocking!
I personally like to think of it as time to work on my starship masteries. So many things to shoot! And they respawn endlessly so I can spend the entire timer wasting everything in firing range.
First match and already someone is shouting in team chat "I'll report anyone that is afk!!!??!!!" In Caps.
"Great men are not peacemakers, Great men are conquerors!" - Captain Archer" "When diplomacy fails, there's only one alternative - violence. Force must be applied without apology. It's the Starfleet way." - Captain Janeway #Support Mirror Universe I.S.S. Prefixes
Otherwise with my ten toons it's gonna take me 3 hours a day to run through it with all of them.
Why would you want to run it on all your alts? The torpedo is an account unlock and there are easier ways to make 50k Dilithium. May not even take 2 weeks to earn that Dilithium.
I used to run these events on as many alts as I could, I burned out. Now that these events have account unlocks I run one, and done. To Gre'thor with the extra Dil and marks, like I said, easier ways.
Same. Luckily I have a full set of terran things on all my alts from maxing out previous runs, so I literally don't have to play for at least 10 more mirror runs if I choose not to.
I'll keep playing, but at a slower rate, just to avoid completely draining my reserves. But I'm so burnt out on events. Though I wouldn't mind playing CC again.
Starship mastery (and unique item) is one reason I still play MI. Dilithium is nice too, since I don't grind in others ways, these events are a major source of dil for me, and after saving up for months and pooling all my alts, I usually have enough to get the next nice ship pack on the C-Store.
I too have a full load of the the Multidimensional Transporter Devices squirrelled away on most of my alts so I can claim the reward on day 1. The decision on whether to claim the dil reward separately on each one will depend entirely on if the event has been streamlined. If it still takes 20 mins per run it's gonna be "Oh hell no!". If it takes less I might be persuaded to run it more.
Tanks for reminding me I checked a few unused alts and ONE had 14 thingies and BAM I got muh stuff!
I must warn you, I am quite Isane! I am Grand Duchess of the Abh Empire: Beneej Letopanyu Spoor!
Otherwise with my ten toons it's gonna take me 3 hours a day to run through it with all of them.
Why would you want to run it on all your alts? The torpedo is an account unlock and there are easier ways to make 50k Dilithium. May not even take 2 weeks to earn that Dilithium.
I used to run these events on as many alts as I could, I burned out. Now that these events have account unlocks I run one, and done. To Gre'thor with the extra Dil and marks, like I said, easier ways.
Same. Luckily I have a full set of terran things on all my alts from maxing out previous runs, so I literally don't have to play for at least 10 more mirror runs if I choose not to.
I'll keep playing, but at a slower rate, just to avoid completely draining my reserves. But I'm so burnt out on events. Though I wouldn't mind playing CC again.
Starship mastery (and unique item) is one reason I still play MI. Dilithium is nice too, since I don't grind in others ways, these events are a major source of dil for me, and after saving up for months and pooling all my alts, I usually have enough to get the next nice ship pack on the C-Store.
I too have a full load of the the Multidimensional Transporter Devices squirrelled away on most of my alts so I can claim the reward on day 1. The decision on whether to claim the dil reward separately on each one will depend entirely on if the event has been streamlined. If it still takes 20 mins per run it's gonna be "Oh hell no!". If it takes less I might be persuaded to run it more.
Tanks for reminding me I checked a few unused alts and ONE had 14 thingies and BAM I got muh stuff!
Same for me... found an alt with 14, got my torp (holy heck, its got to get a nerf... dot total is nearly 1/4 of the total torp hit damage (dot increasing dramatically with spread/hyt) and if you spread/hyt it, its a near guaranteed disable) so now I'm just running an alt for future tokens
Currently making the best of the situation by running for ship mastery on the 'saver' alts
I've been saying for years, they won't bring back the Crystalline Entity Event until they rework the queue. The Devs likely do not like how easy the Entity is to defeat. Even the Event version, with its various added hazards was still a joke.
Considering how fast the queue is, if you were a Dev, would you want players running every character they have thru this event and end up swimming in Dilithium? The last time it ran, I took 30+ alts thru it and it only took about 3 hours. And this was back before we had consistent 30 second runs on ADVANCED.
So yeah, don't expect to see the Crystalline Entity event any time soon, if ever again.
A rework is not necessary, simply reverting back to the original version, which could and would heal from 1% health back to 100% if a single player screwed up, would be enough to bring the challenge back, except the power creep over the years would mean far fewer runs where the entity is still alive after hours of being bombarded by a full queue.
I've been saying for years, they won't bring back the Crystalline Entity Event until they rework the queue. The Devs likely do not like how easy the Entity is to defeat. Even the Event version, with its various added hazards was still a joke.
Considering how fast the queue is, if you were a Dev, would you want players running every character they have thru this event and end up swimming in Dilithium? The last time it ran, I took 30+ alts thru it and it only took about 3 hours. And this was back before we had consistent 30 second runs on ADVANCED.
So yeah, don't expect to see the Crystalline Entity event any time soon, if ever again.
A rework is not necessary, simply reverting back to the original version, which could and would heal from 1% health back to 100% if a single player screwed up, would be enough to bring the challenge back, except the power creep over the years would mean far fewer runs where the entity is still alive after hours of being bombarded by a full queue.
I tried the original version once - never again. It could've been a good map, but as a public queue a typical PUG was disastrous. After over two hours of spamming the space bar and watching as other players let those shards heal the entity time after time and keep resetting the progress I'd had enough. And the AFK attitude towards these events that Cryptic is promoting now days pretty much assures that the original CE would never be well received. Mind you over two hours of challenging content I could wholeheartedly get behind and take as a personal accomplishment, but I'd never attempt something like the original CE again in an open instance and I'm sure a private instance where people knew what to do wouldn't take anywhere near half an hour.
As another aside, I get a kick out of the 15 minutes game time shown in the queue interface of CCA.
Playing as a Terran, I've decided that defending an alien space station is not in my interest. My focus is on killing those Terran traitors instead (the Romulan station is expendable)
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Playing as a Terran, I've decided that defending an alien space station is not in my interest. My focus is on killing those Terran traitors instead (the Romulan station is expendable)
Let the station BURN, we gotta kill em' terrans, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I must warn you, I am quite Isane! I am Grand Duchess of the Abh Empire: Beneej Letopanyu Spoor!
Playing as a Terran, I've decided that defending an alien space station is not in my interest. My focus is on killing those Terran traitors instead (the Romulan station is expendable)
Let the station BURN, we gotta kill em' terrans, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
It's a good brawl with the Terran traitors, close range ship combat is always epic
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Comments
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
The thought of running this awful event 14 times makes me want to peel the skin off my face.
Fleet Admiral Ventaxa Proxmire, U.S.S. Shaka Walls Fell
Blog: http://www.sarbonn.com/?page_id=1990
Foundry series: Bob From Accounting & For the Sake of the Empire
so have i... done this many times.
event sucks cause it's a pure time gate.
they need to remove the time gate...
make is so you close X portals then next part.
also your closing portals and 1 hit and wham sorry start again.
sorry this is not a fun event after X number of runs over the years.
Agreed; that particular mechanic is long overdue for expunging from the game.
That said, look at the bright side - plenty of targets for starship mastery progression, and drops to sell/salvage.
Why would you want to run it on all your alts? The torpedo is an account unlock and there are easier ways to make 50k Dilithium. May not even take 2 weeks to earn that Dilithium.
I used to run these events on as many alts as I could, I burned out. Now that these events have account unlocks I run one, and done. To Gre'thor with the extra Dil and marks, like I said, easier ways.
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
Same. Luckily I have a full set of terran things on all my alts from maxing out previous runs, so I literally don't have to play for at least 10 more mirror runs if I choose not to.
I'll keep playing, but at a slower rate, just to avoid completely draining my reserves. But I'm so burnt out on events. Though I wouldn't mind playing CC again.
Starship mastery (and unique item) is one reason I still play MI. Dilithium is nice too, since I don't grind in others ways, these events are a major source of dil for me, and after saving up for months and pooling all my alts, I usually have enough to get the next nice ship pack on the C-Store.
Seriously, Cryptic, STO is not a game at that point, it's a screensaver that eats your Internet connection. Kill the timer!!
The recent Breach Event I only did it on one Character; the time before that I did it on all fourteen of my Characters (and regretted that after about eight days in).
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I will be away from computering this
The devs need to nuke the timmer for this que and introduce a mechanic to kick AFKers and allow other qued players to join in, also that one hit and restart mechanic needs to be nuked!!
I just ground a Fed Delta and just finished the Rom delta, doubt I will finish the kling delta..I am slowing down to impulse speed to get to ViL..
Would have loved to have seen a sliver of specs or details of the agony phaser torpedo, never heard of a phaser torp before..
Adu-Uss Firefox NCC-93425-F (LVL 65 FED AoY ENG) UR/VR MKXV Fleet Intel Assault Cruiser (July 2016)
Jean-Uss Seratoga Ravenna (LVL 60 FED Delta ENG) UC/R MKVI Bajoran Escort (April 2018)
Dubsa-RRW Mnaudh (LVL 50 FED allied ROM Delta ENG) Warbird (May 2018)
Marop-IKS Orunthi (LVL 50 KNG Delta ENG) BoP (May 2018)
Kanak'lan-TRIBBLE (LVL 65 DOM Gamma ENG) TRIBBLE (June 2018)
To be honest, I hate the afk community on sto (well, unless they run private instances) but I have to admit, the idea of mirror helling once more for half a month fills me with despair as its frankly not fun so I can see their point slightly
If you could close portals without some near invisible fighter plinking you at 99% completion, it would go a great deal towards allieviating the pain - as would removal of the timegate
That though would not happen as mirror torture is a goldmine ideal for inflating metrics - a large player base locked into a mission for 15+ minutes - and a reward that is laughable for time invested (seriously, I did the maths a while back - running isa/ce over and over (using alts to circumnavigate cds) for the same amount of time taken to run the 14 runs of hell gives me in total far, far more than 50k of dil (especially if you include mark conversion; hourly or lump 10x) with less pain and afking)
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
I have the same feeling. During the Sompek event, someone in my PUG was complaining that he was wasting 10 minutes in the timed event because the rest of us actually wanted to play it.
If people don't want to play the mission as intended, form a private queue and stay out of the public PUGs.
That's what I do with Mirror. I join private afk queues if I want to relax.
My character Tsin'xing
"When diplomacy fails, there's only one alternative - violence. Force must be applied without apology. It's the Starfleet way." - Captain Janeway
#Support Mirror Universe I.S.S. Prefixes
Tanks for reminding me I checked a few unused alts and ONE had 14 thingies and BAM I got muh stuff!
Same for me... found an alt with 14, got my torp (holy heck, its got to get a nerf... dot total is nearly 1/4 of the total torp hit damage (dot increasing dramatically with spread/hyt) and if you spread/hyt it, its a near guaranteed disable) so now I'm just running an alt for future tokens
Currently making the best of the situation by running for ship mastery on the 'saver' alts
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
A rework is not necessary, simply reverting back to the original version, which could and would heal from 1% health back to 100% if a single player screwed up, would be enough to bring the challenge back, except the power creep over the years would mean far fewer runs where the entity is still alive after hours of being bombarded by a full queue.
I tried the original version once - never again. It could've been a good map, but as a public queue a typical PUG was disastrous. After over two hours of spamming the space bar and watching as other players let those shards heal the entity time after time and keep resetting the progress I'd had enough. And the AFK attitude towards these events that Cryptic is promoting now days pretty much assures that the original CE would never be well received. Mind you over two hours of challenging content I could wholeheartedly get behind and take as a personal accomplishment, but I'd never attempt something like the original CE again in an open instance and I'm sure a private instance where people knew what to do wouldn't take anywhere near half an hour.
As another aside, I get a kick out of the 15 minutes game time shown in the queue interface of CCA.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Let the station BURN, we gotta kill em' terrans, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
It's a good brawl with the Terran traitors, close range ship combat is always epic
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius