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PSA - Phoenix packs return, don't forget the free daily at DS9

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10817164-the-phoenix-prize-pack-returns

Remember to pick up your free token and free one-time-use admiralty small craft every day at DS9,

Phoenix packs are better than superior tech upgrades, since they use less dill (4,000 for 4x the posts), are universal, and are free. That's even if every pack gave out green tokens, but I'd guess the rate for rare or better is between 1/3 - 1/2 of the packs.

If you want one of the Epic prizes, be warned that the odds for getting Epic tokens are very low, probably worse than lock box ships (1 in 250).
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  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    oh, good call. Thank you.
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    Remember to pick up your free token and free one-time-use admiralty small craft every day at DS9,

    I typically go to Drozana Station to get them from Grym since I spend most of my time in the Beta Quadrant.

  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,543 Arc User
    I have purchased a lot of phoenix packs and never won an epic token. I believe the odds are much worse than 1 in 250 since I have purchased hundreds and won 1 UR. As you suggest, I usually buy them for the upgrades since I already have most of the items I want in the store. I'd love to see them add some new items to the store.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,501 Arc User
    indyshark wrote: »
    I have purchased a lot of phoenix packs and never won an epic token. I believe the odds are much worse than 1 in 250 since I have purchased hundreds and won 1 UR. As you suggest, I usually buy them for the upgrades since I already have most of the items I want in the store. I'd love to see them add some new items to the store.

    I was being conservative and listing the best case -- it's at least as bad as 1 in 250 but probably much worse. I've seen posts from people saying it took them over 500 or 1,000 packs to get an Epic, but 500 could happen even with 1:250 odds (13.5% chance of no epic, so 1 out of 8 people get none). I've gotten one Epic out of all the Phoenix events but I've opened at least 500 packs by now.

    I'd like to see some new items too, especially for the Epic. It would have been nice to have traded mine for the T1 Andorian escort that can't be obtained on PC any more, for my new Andorian captain Greye.
  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    indyshark wrote: »
    I have purchased a lot of phoenix packs and never won an epic token. I believe the odds are much worse than 1 in 250 since I have purchased hundreds and won 1 UR. As you suggest, I usually buy them for the upgrades since I already have most of the items I want in the store. I'd love to see them add some new items to the store.

    I was being conservative and listing the best case -- it's at least as bad as 1 in 250 but probably much worse. I've seen posts from people saying it took them over 500 or 1,000 packs to get an Epic, but 500 could happen even with 1:250 odds (13.5% chance of no epic, so 1 out of 8 people get none). I've gotten one Epic out of all the Phoenix events but I've opened at least 500 packs by now.

    I'd like to see some new items too, especially for the Epic. It would have been nice to have traded mine for the T1 Andorian escort that can't be obtained on PC any more, for my new Andorian captain Greye.

    I have yet to buy a phoenix pack, only gotten the freebies, but I have scored an epic once. Turned it in for URs because I already had the epic stuff.​​
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  • orangenee#2931 orangenee Member Posts: 837 Arc User
    indyshark wrote: »
    I have purchased a lot of phoenix packs and never won an epic token. I believe the odds are much worse than 1 in 250 since I have purchased hundreds and won 1 UR. As you suggest, I usually buy them for the upgrades since I already have most of the items I want in the store. I'd love to see them add some new items to the store.

    They are worse. Think of trying to pick a single atom from a pile of TRIBBLE with a a giant claw machine.

    That is the phoenix box.

    200+ phoenix upgrades though as there is absolutely nothing of any use barring 4 items, red matter thingy, the torpedo if you like antiproton, admiralty card and of course the upgrades.

    The upgrades are trickery though, don't cost dil but actually do.

    Everything else that isn't UR/Epic is completely useless.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,501 Arc User
    The upgrades are trickery though, don't cost dil but actually do.

    The Phoenix upgrades cost 4,000 dil each, or more like 3,000 when you figure in getting rare or better tokens. They give you the tech points from 4 superior tech upgrades, which will cost 4,300 dil along with either mats + 60,000 EC to craft, or EC to buy.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    edited March 2018
    Damn it, I was planning to sell zen when the dil price goes back up because I was trying to save enough dil for when the next phoenix pack returns, but now it has already happened and ruined the plan for me. :(
  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    indyshark wrote: »
    I have purchased a lot of phoenix packs and never won an epic token. I believe the odds are much worse than 1 in 250 since I have purchased hundreds and won 1 UR. As you suggest, I usually buy them for the upgrades since I already have most of the items I want in the store. I'd love to see them add some new items to the store.

    I was being conservative and listing the best case -- it's at least as bad as 1 in 250 but probably much worse. I've seen posts from people saying it took them over 500 or 1,000 packs to get an Epic, but 500 could happen even with 1:250 odds (13.5% chance of no epic, so 1 out of 8 people get none). I've gotten one Epic out of all the Phoenix events but I've opened at least 500 packs by now.

    I'd like to see some new items too, especially for the Epic. It would have been nice to have traded mine for the T1 Andorian escort that can't be obtained on PC any more, for my new Andorian captain Greye.

    honestly, I can see them being about 1:250, keep in mind even that number is more anecdotal. Anyways, from my experience on the normal lockboxes, 400-500 boxes seems to be about when I would hit the big prize, so seems to be about the same with the Phoenix boxes
  • corelogikcorelogik Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    indyshark wrote: »
    I have purchased a lot of phoenix packs and never won an epic token. I believe the odds are much worse than 1 in 250 since I have purchased hundreds and won 1 UR. As you suggest, I usually buy them for the upgrades since I already have most of the items I want in the store. I'd love to see them add some new items to the store.

    I've purchased a ton of Phoenix boxes over the last few runs and have won exactly 2 epics. One last time and one this time.
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  • orangenee#2931 orangenee Member Posts: 837 Arc User
    I did get one Epic token in the end. Was tempted to get both the Bulwark and attack ship as I plan on buying a T6 Jem'Hadar Dread in a month or two (probably 3 as I'm not buying anything with money for a while).

    Went with the Breen carrier in the end as I have the Plesh Tral for frigate pets. Damn fine ship.

    Pretty much no refined dil left though but as consolation I have 80+ upgrades.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,501 Arc User
    I did get one Epic token in the end. Was tempted to get both the Bulwark and attack ship as I plan on buying a T6 Jem'Hadar Dread in a month or two (probably 3 as I'm not buying anything with money for a while).

    Went with the Breen carrier in the end as I have the Plesh Tral for frigate pets. Damn fine ship.

    Pretty much no refined dil left though but as consolation I have 80+ upgrades.

    The Breen is a great Science carrier, and the mastery trait (your healing affects pets too) is nice to use with any other carrier.

  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    edited March 2018
    All I really want so far is the Nandi (which I stupidly missed when I had the chance to grind for one) and maybe also the Risian Corvette, I like the look of the Samsar but I don't care for its huge bias towards being an engineering tank ship, the Breen science ship would be nice for extending the Breen console set I have but I would be better off giving it to my science toon and not my tactical toon. Once I have acquired 1000 phoenix boxes I will attempt to open them, but I can't say that I like how they can only stack to 100 and not 999, yes I know that opening more doesn't increase the chance I just feel more comfortable opening them in bigger stacks.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    I am glad you made this thread...it reminds me to go pick up the freebie box instead of futzing around in the Forums.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    Damn it, I was planning to sell zen when the dil price goes back up because I was trying to save enough dil for when the next phoenix pack returns, but now it has already happened and ruined the plan for me. :(

    I took the opportunity to purchase 9,600 Zen. :) I would like to sell it back for Dil later on... but it has been some time since the exchange rate has reached 290 or above. Though I might use it to purchase promo packs in the future and sell 'em on the Exchange of EC.

    I will probably buy 40 Phoenix Prize Packs per character for upgrade purposes before the event ends. I have no real need of UR or Epic tokens, though I have one of each. Too bad these packs only stack in lots of 100. It would be nice if you could stack 500 of 'em in one slot... though a stack of 999 would be even better.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    TRIBBLE, I did forget about the free one! and with the launcher down, I guess I'll try tomorrow
  • orangenee#2931 orangenee Member Posts: 837 Arc User
    Now that's over I have about 5 last shots to get a UR.

    Then I can repopulate my refined stocks.
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    I found 1 Epic token in about 100 boxes I opened this time around. But no Ultra Rare.

    Last time I found 1 Ultra Rare. But no Epic. I might end up with a pile of each in a few years of this.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,501 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    I found 1 Epic token in about 100 boxes I opened this time around. But no Ultra Rare.

    Last time I found 1 Ultra Rare. But no Epic. I might end up with a pile of each in a few years of this.

    "I got a rock" -- Charlie Brown trick-or-treating

    No UR or Epic out of 56 for me, but a nice pile of tech upgrades -- last night I got 22 upgrades out of a 10-pack after grinding down the rares and very rares. That's 94,600 dil equivalent vs. superior upgrades for 40,000.
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    I found 1 Epic token in about 100 boxes I opened this time around. But no Ultra Rare.

    Last time I found 1 Ultra Rare. But no Epic. I might end up with a pile of each in a few years of this.

    "I got a rock" -- Charlie Brown trick-or-treating

    No UR or Epic out of 56 for me, but a nice pile of tech upgrades -- last night I got 22 upgrades out of a 10-pack after grinding down the rares and very rares. That's 94,600 dil equivalent vs. superior upgrades for 40,000.

    Yeah, I would love to leave some of the Phoenix Upgradesin the Fleet Bank for other players to use if they need it. But I am not sure Cryptic would ever allow that.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,913 Arc User
    I lucked up on an epic token from a free box just the other day and snagged the Nandi for my F2P captain. That's mostly what I wanted one for. I'd like some of the other ships for her, but she's content flying the Nandi and having access to the amenities anytime she needs them now.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    I just saved up to 1007 phoenix boxes, but I think I might as well do an unboxing video and upload it to youtube. I really hope I get at least one epic.
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,913 Arc User
    Also, for the next phoenix event, you can get them at Drozana too, not just DS9.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • orangenee#2931 orangenee Member Posts: 837 Arc User
    Final boxes opened. Out with a whimper.

    So the final score was 1 epic. Really wanted that Bulwark as well.

    Oh well, time to hoard some dil.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    edited March 2018
    Sweet mother of god, I got 3 epic and 2 ultra tokens, I am absolutely ecstatic right now. The first epic I got was at the 316th box. As for the rest I got 540 uncommons, 339 rares, and 123 very rare tokens. Now I can finally get that Nandi I missed out on and the Risian Corvette, I am not sure what else to get with the remaining 2 epic and 1 ultra tokens though.
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  • orangenee#2931 orangenee Member Posts: 837 Arc User
    Save them. You never know what might turn up next time.
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited March 2018
    avoozuul wrote: »
    Sweet mother of god, I got 3 epic and 2 ultra tokens, I am absolutely ecstatic right now. The first epic I got was at the 227th box. As for the rest I got 540 uncommons, 339 rares, and 123 very rare tokens. Now I can finally get that Nandi I missed out on and the Risian Corvette, I am not sure what else to get with the remaining 2 epic and 1 ultra tokens though.

    Nice. :) I stuck the T-5 Bug ship on my Rom/secondary character. I really think it is fun. Runs better than the Kor BoP which is a T-6....uh....except for that, you know, flanking thing and the Quantum console. LOL!

    Oh yeah, that flanking and Quantum Warhead Module...very fun, indeed.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    I picked up another 12,000 Zen after seeing the Dil/Zen exchange rate drop to 242:1 late last night.

    :)
  • orangenee#2931 orangenee Member Posts: 837 Arc User
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    I picked up another 12,000 Zen after seeing the Dil/Zen exchange rate drop to 242:1 late last night.

    :)

    Which is exactly what I will be doing next time. Then likely converting a load back after the rate recovers.

    I'll be freeloading scum yet. :p
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