VOTE for STO - Best F2P MMO 2017 - Daily vote

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  • pireb
    pireb Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    I'm sorry what? STO (one of the most predatory and pay to win games currently available on PC) for best f2p mmo?

    I'm going to assume that this thread is an elaborate joke and i'm just too stupid to get it.
  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,510 Arc User
    > @mirrorchaos said:
    > i haven't voted and i doubt i will.
    >
    > STO is something i haven't been that interested to get back to playing beyond the winter event ship and maybe the anninversary. all the previous content is stuff i've done so many times before i don't really care for going through it many more times.
    >
    > SWTOR is collapsing in on itself because the devs there genuinely don't care for their community or the game any more, recent server merges have made things easier to see what is coming, if numbers drop again, that is the end of it.
    >
    > Champions Online hasn't changed since it first came out, despite some new content, it's still very dry as a superhero MMO. Compared to STO and Neverwinter, Champions has barely been recognised for any major upgrades since before F2P became a thing.
    >
    > Star Trek Timelines is just boring to play after the first 20 hours when you hit your daily chroniton limit which is tied to your level. the card trading game is too easy to get stuff even without paying anything for it.
    >
    > those are the four i have played this year and only those four and none of them have stood out and been "the one" to choose.

    Lol show me proof star war's old rep is dying.....

    I doubt proof exists as such. However, from observation the server merge doesn't look like a good sign at face value, they're putting a lot more emphasis on making quick money (the recent emphasis on the Cartel store and throwing loot boxes out left right and centre) and their so-called F2P model is laughable, with the game pretty much actively punishing you for not subscribing.

    Whether those are indicative of a dying game I don't know, but I don't view these points as being very encouraging. And it's worth keeping in mind that this is Star Wars we're discussing; certainly at this point in time I sincerely doubt the franchise would miss the revenue the game generates.
  • chastity1337
    chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    Yeah, OK, I went and voted for STO.

    STO is like that GF who drives you CRAZY, but you can't live without her. I keep coming back. Sigh.
  • potentialbff#9168
    potentialbff#9168 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    I'll be honest. This is NOT the best MMO of 2017, or any year. But I like this game and I play it because it's Trek. It's possible to both like and enjoy something while at the same time not pretending it's "best".
  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,510 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    I'll be honest. This is NOT the best MMO of 2017, or any year. But I like this game and I play it because it's Trek. It's possible to both like and enjoy something while at the same time not pretending it's "best".

    No-one is saying it's the best MMO. The poll is 'Best F2P MMO'.
  • potentialbff#9168
    potentialbff#9168 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    I'll be honest. This is NOT the best MMO of 2017, or any year. But I like this game and I play it because it's Trek. It's possible to both like and enjoy something while at the same time not pretending it's "best".

    No-one is saying it's the best MMO. The poll is 'Best F2P MMO'.


    Ok. I still feel the exact same way. I don't think this is the "best" F2P MMO. But I don't play a game because it's the "best", I play it because it happens to be what I personally enjoy. I don't mind admitting other games might be better in many regards.
  • potentialbff#9168
    potentialbff#9168 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    I'll be honest. This is NOT the best MMO of 2017, or any year. But I like this game and I play it because it's Trek. It's possible to both like and enjoy something while at the same time not pretending it's "best".

    No-one is saying it's the best MMO. The poll is 'Best F2P MMO'.


    Ok. I still feel the exact same way. I don't think this is the "best" F2P MMO. But I don't play a game because it's the "best", I play it because it happens to be what I personally enjoy. I don't mind admitting other games might be better in many regards.

    Have you played other F2P games? This is basically the only game that is truely F2P. Which in my book makes it best...not on the merit of how good it is, but because it is the ONLY option really if you want to play a MMO for truely free. NW can be as well I suppose...but their version of the dil exchange is kinda borked so that makes it less so. GW2 shouldn't even be on that list as you need to buy the game to play it...which isn't F2P...it just means there is no sub costs. If we are going by that standard, BDO should be on the list as well...and that game is WAY prettier than anything on the list.

    We are clearly interpreting the question differently. You interpret it this way:

    "Which F2P MMO has the best business model"?

    I interpret it this way:

    "Which F2P MMO is the best game"?

    By my interpretation, my comments stand. I don't think STO is the best F2P game for many reasons. But it's also the one I play, also for many reasons.
  • orangenee#2931
    orangenee#2931 Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    SWTOR is dying on it's behind. They managed annoy an entire country with the mergers (Australia), the business model is terrible (demo version or sub is your choice there) and the engine is far worse than STOs (alpha build Hero engine because rush out the door).

    That and it turned into a job far quicker than I liked.

    STO is something I can pay barely any attention to and still get stuff done. However it has many issues and even though it's the only "MMO" I can tolerate nowadays, I can't vote for it due to said issues. It is very definitely the only true F2P setup though.
  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,510 Arc User
    > @orangenee#2931 said:
    > SWTOR is dying on it's behind. They managed annoy an entire country with the mergers (Australia), the business model is terrible (demo version or sub is your choice there) and the engine is far worse than STOs (alpha build Hero engine because rush out the door).
    >
    > That and it turned into a job far quicker than I liked.
    >
    > STO is something I can pay barely any attention to and still get stuff done. However it has many issues and even though it's the only "MMO" I can tolerate nowadays, I can't vote for it due to said issues. It is very definitely the only true F2P setup though.

    Ok sure say that now because you say it's dying don't mean it is not.. You are not manage the company . You don't own the company unless i see a post from the company to say they shutting down and dying i won't believe you lol...

    Unlikely any company would ever openly state that their game was 'dying'.
    Like most businesses, they'd be infinitely more likely to milk their customers (playbase) for all they're worth whilst at the same time showing disinterest in the same playerbase and their feedback.
  • orangenee#2931
    orangenee#2931 Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    Never thought I'd see somebody defend an EA product so rabidly. You do know EA's history right, I mean not even long ago they annihilated another studio who were working on a Star Wars game. SWTOR is just on stealth maintenance mode now, being bled for all it's worth. EA won't release the resources for BW to do anything worthwhile for it, they'll keep it around just as a low upkeep revenue generator. It's effectively dead though, playerbase be damned.

    If there's any red showing up on the financials at some point out comes the plug, it's the EA way. Either way it had nowhere near enough ability to retain my subscription and seeing as subbing is the only way to make the game tolerable.........bye, bye SWTOR, it was a nice 5 months.
  • sthe91
    sthe91 Member Posts: 4,031 Arc User
    I voted for STO.
    Where there is a Will, there is a Way.
  • orangenee#2931
    orangenee#2931 Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    Oh here we go. Proof. Proof. Proof. Writing is on the wall fella, not a big deal if you don't want to read it.

    Look at EA's track record. They can and will burn it at any time they choose with a far lower threshold than other companies. i don't care either way as I won't be playing it again. if I'm wrong and the game survives until we actually have lightsabers, yippee. If I'm right, well, smell ya later I guess SWTOR.

    Oh and guy, maybe you should try reading instead. At no point did I "bash it like a sad person", you, however did defend it like it was one of your children.....

    I'm just not going to play it anymore. Have fun if you choose to however.

  • darkbladejk
    darkbladejk Member Posts: 3,300 Community Moderator
    Guy's lets keep things on point with this discussion related to the voting for STO. I'm granting you guys a bit of leeway because multiple mmos are involved in this voting process besides just STO. Having passion about one's position is fine, and everyone is free to debate provided it is kept civil. Do not make me take this leeway back and lock the discussion.
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  • tunicate515#4416
    tunicate515#4416 Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    I voted!

    For GW2.
  • mirrorchaos
    mirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,817 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    judging by shinobi1027's comments, an arguement there about TOR is like an arguement with somtaarkhar, totally pointless since they will always think of themselves as right and you as wrong.

    so yeah, moving on.
    T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW.
    Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
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