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Costume Exploit Report: Swimwear
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Several times now, I've seen Swimwear being used in restricted zones.
I don't know how this is done, but it should not be possible, given the georestrictions imposed by Cryptic.
Most of the time, this is restricted to social hubs, but I have personally seen two occurrences where it was not:
1. Cure Advanced STF Ground. A player showed up in a pink bikini.
2. Winter Wonderland: A player was present wearing a bikini top and miniskirt.
Given that this is clearly a bypass of the restrictions allowing where to use these costumes options, I am recommending that Cryptic do a review pass of the costume options in order to discover exactly how this exploit/bypass is being performed.
I don't know how this is done, but it should not be possible, given the georestrictions imposed by Cryptic.
Most of the time, this is restricted to social hubs, but I have personally seen two occurrences where it was not:
1. Cure Advanced STF Ground. A player showed up in a pink bikini.
2. Winter Wonderland: A player was present wearing a bikini top and miniskirt.
Given that this is clearly a bypass of the restrictions allowing where to use these costumes options, I am recommending that Cryptic do a review pass of the costume options in order to discover exactly how this exploit/bypass is being performed.
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To be completely honest, I did have some ideas to use swimwear in combination with components of other uniforms for more variety.
The one I wish I could use was the one piece swimsuit with some long pants to simulate a sleeveless shirt for BOFFs.
That idea was necessitated by the discovery that not all BOFFs have access to the sleeveless tunic due to interfactional costume complications.
I could also come up with some ways to use the full length wetsuit as an uniform component as well, if it was possible.
Can you tell I've been spending too much time in the Champions Online tailor?
I think STO would benefit from a tailor redesign to match the CO tailor.
But that would require the elimination of categories completely and I am uncertain if that will ever be implemented.
Especially since the exploit I described is using an unpermitted iteration of that feature already.
I assume this is so because combining swimwear options with regular uniform options is definitely not something that was intended!
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Intriguing, I wasn't aware of that information.
I assume it applies to tops only and that the one-piece swimsuit I am interested in doesn't qualify.
With that in mind, I reviewed the infraction screenshots I kept and half of them appear to be like that.
The other half however, are definitely unpermitted, they are complete swimsuit sets with no off-duty options.
When I saw the winter wonderland swim costume, my first thought was, wouldn't it be funny if Cryptic implemented a health degeneration debuff for having swimwear options/non protective clothing on that map?
For example, the less covered up the character is, the more degeneration they suffer.
Anyone wearing a swimwear costume option gets 100 HP subtracted per second.
Total time to incapication, 6 seconds.
On a more serious note, I assume Cryptic implemented the zoning restrictions to more accurately reflect military protocol.
I imagine if a cadet showed up to duty in a pair of swim trunks or a bikini, they'd be court martialled or at the least reprimanded.
Any Starfleet officer found out of uniform is ordered to report to Lt Commander Tom Dodge for disciplinary action:
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The Starfleet officers aren't going into battle in a starship, fighter or shuttle, they're engaging in ground combat directly with enemy troops.
See example 1 again in my initial post. Would you seriously fight the Borg on the ground without armor?
I honestly don't believe any soldier would be deployed for ground combat without a flak jacket, bullet proof vest, survival backpack, combat hiking boots, ammo belt and whatever other gear that is required for long term ground engagements.
In any case, this is a game, where we choose when to go into battle.
It's just a matter of taking a few seconds to change from Civvie Costume to Armor Costume and then queuing for the Ground Combat Queue.
The only conclusion that can be reached if they're showing up to Ground Queues using an unpermitted costume, it's because they want every other player to see they can ignore the rules on georestricted costumes.
And it is a rule, keep that in mind.
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There is no need to switch outfits. If the outfit is restricted from the queue, it will automatically switch you to your default allowable outfit.
Also, you are assuming that every species and every faction follows Starfleets rules, which most do not.
Keep that in mind.
Since this is a game, we are able to be the upstanding SJWs of the Federation, be non-Starfleet private contractors, or any of a myriad of other walks of life in STO. In this game, OP, there are no “rules” stating we must wear certain types of clothing. If you are an RPer, then please, by all means, RP as you see fit...
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This isn't about culture specific rules, it's about a rule stated by Cryptic, which says that full swimsuits can only be used on the Risa and Colony Holding maps.
Whether you're playing as Romulan, Starfleet or KDF doesn't change that fact.
And yes, I have seen Romulans use this exploit/bypass too.
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Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
Apparently there are a great many things that you don't know, so why are you posting about things that you don't know about? I would suggest that you stop trying to tell people to follow rules that you are just making up as you go.
You assume incorrectly. Cryptic imposes these outfit rules to abide by the Star Trek franchise canon license that they have paid for to follow.
Please stop trying to be the fashion police, and let Cryptic do their job.
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Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
You mention the KDF? Here is a KDF Uniform for you. Standard by the way.
In the end, the costume slot is bugged for that costume. As long as that costume is not changed in the tailor then it will continue to be used in game as a standard option. The only way to stop it at this point is to completely fix the Tailor, top to bottom overhall, then step two Erase every saved costume in the game and force players to go in and redo each and every costume that they want to wear. Then of course there is the fact that a future update will break the tailor and allow the bug to pop back up at some point. Which will then have to be fixed by a top to bottom overhall of the tailor followed by a wipe of all character costumes in game, until..... well you get the point I hope.
As it is the only real end game is space barbie, I say let people play there way, not yours as
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Do you think I'd have started this topic if I had not?
I even have screenshots as evidence.
And no, they will not be provided for public viewing, so do not ask.
For the record, I have no interest in using the exploit/bypass, so I don't care how it's done.
And would certainly not ask how.
Also for the record, if anyone is found to be using a copycat/trademarked superhero outfit in Champions Online and Cryptic discover this, it'll be defaulted mandatorily.
It's another rule, to keep Marvel and DC from calling in the shark armada and eating the game up in little bite size pieces.
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