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Can We Please Have Another Science Cruiser?

Hello!

So, we have tons and tons of tac-heavy cruisers; it seems as though every cruiser that comes out lately requires a lt. com. tac station or more. Meanwhile, the only science cruisers we have are either part of a eng/sci/tac 3-pack (which from my understanding everyone just uses the tac variants) or lockbox-exclusive.

I really want to see more science-heavy cruisers in this game; like a t6 c-store 4 science console, 2x lt.com. science station cruiser. We even have some great candidates for science cruisers as well that do not have t6 versions such as the Constellation and Ambassador.

Anyway, what I'm saying is that we are severely low on science cruisers and I would love to see more.

Thanks for your time!

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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,363 Arc User
    No.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Eventually, something like this will probably happen.
    Just because They are running out of known ships to sell us.
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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,465 Arc User
    edited November 2017
    Just buy the Sci version of the Miracle Worker ships: Lt. Comm Sci, Lt. Comm Uni for a second Sci if you want, and up to 5 Science consoles thanks to the Universal console spot. Hard to get much more Sci-cruiser than that, at least C-Store. Consoles aren't that 'must have' from what I've heard, so no real downside of breaking the set.

    If you're not on PC, don't worry, I'm sure they'll be coming to XB1/PS4 soon enough.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 55,670 Community Moderator
    If and when we get Discovery content, I can kinda see the Crossfield class being science heavy.
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,361 Arc User
    edited November 2017
    Que people claiming the Guardian is a Tier 6 Ambassador in 3...2...1...

    Seriously though, tom61 has a great point. Could be fun!
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  • firstaid#5667 firstaid Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited November 2017
    Thanks for the recommendation; I've looked into that ship before and while the stats look nice, I can't bring myself to get it mainly because it's a variant from a 3-pack while I would prefer to have a ship that didn't have the crutch of having a tac variant. While it can be purchased separately, I really just want Cryptic to try to make a stand-alone science cruiser for once. And access to a canon skin if possible.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,536 Arc User
    edited November 2017
    Have you tried the T6 Nebula (Sutherland) - aka Advanced Research Vessel (T6)?

    I mean, yeah, it's a science ship - but it's the same size as a cruiser (only marginally smaller than the Galaxy class) and has a similar turn rate. And it definitely ticks the 'canon' box.
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,808 Arc User
    Thanks for the recommendation; I've looked into that ship before and while the stats look nice, I can't bring myself to get it mainly because it's a variant from a 3-pack while I would prefer to have a ship that didn't have the crutch of having a tac variant. While it can be purchased separately, I really just want Cryptic to try to make a stand-alone science cruiser for once. And access to a canon skin if possible.

    the Guardian class is a science heavy crusier, as is the Sagittarius Temporal Cruiser.

    and as far as canon skin the Fleet Support Cruiser Retrofit a.k.a the Ambassador class at fleet T-5u has 4 science console slots and a Lieutenant Commander science boff slot. works very well for my fed. just fly something else long enough to get a few useful starship traits and your good to go.

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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,022 Arc User
    edited November 2017
    The T5U Fleet Ambassador class was more science heavy than the Guardian.
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,655 Bug Hunter
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Have you tried the T6 Nebula (Sutherland) - aka Advanced Research Vessel (T6)?

    I mean, yeah, it's a science ship - but it's the same size as a cruiser (only marginally smaller than the Galaxy class) and has a similar turn rate. And it definitely ticks the 'canon' box.
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    That was what came to mind immediately for me as well. The T6 Nebula (Sutherland) is a NICE ship many of my friends enjoy; although one has to be prepared to buy a few Fleet Modules. This expands it from a Rare (10 console) ship to a slightly improved Fleet variation (11 console) ship; that's slightly more capable that normal Very Rare CSTORE (11 console) ships.
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    Lets see in 2017 there were 3 T-6 Science ships for Rom, Fed Kdf, 9 T-6 Recon Science ships for Rom, Fed, Klingon. Not enough for you? Never mind 2016's Fed T-6 Neb...
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,022 Arc User
    They are speaking of cruisers with a science bias which are not fully science ships.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,536 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    They are speaking of cruisers with a science bias which are not fully science ships.

    Yeah, but the Nebula is (basically) a science ship with a cruiser bias......
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 3,315 Arc User
    The Vesta is a Sci ship but it looks like a cruiser with the right choices.

    And the only reason why I would personally care about a Sci cruiser is because Sci ships are awesome, and cruisers look great (usually). The Vesta has it all.
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,091 Arc User
    The Multi Mission T6 (New Vesta/Gorn/Vulcroms) are great ships and I enjoy them a lot. But in how you play them, they couldn't be less eng-y. (Okay, maybe not in how YOU play them). Thanks to the aux cannons (cannons being a rank higher than beams in terms of BOff abilities) you're pretty much set to be non cruisering.

    So yeah, Sci heavy cruisers would be something different. No need for me, and I think we already have tons of cruisers, and the Advanced Research Vessel may look and turn like a cruiser but just isn't, but it is a valid wish to have.
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  • spacecatz#6038 spacecatz Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    Honestly I found the Science Star Cruiser very boring, if I wanted to use science ships I would use them instead of cruisers with science abilities.
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,091 Arc User
    The thing of course is that of all the ships Tac cruisers are generally the easiest to play (circle around, BFAW, power and survivability not an issue at all), so people will flock to them more than to other ones to begin with. Pure Sci ships or agile escorts/bops/warbirds have their own style, but with Tac v Sci cruisers, tac abilities rule. Most common reason to go Sci is probably the Grav Well, but since GW ain't what it used to be... there's not much money in it.
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,361 Arc User
    xyquarze wrote: »
    ...the Advanced Research Vessel may look and turn like a cruiser but just isn't, but it is a valid wish to have.

    Actually the turn rate on the Advanced Research is much faster than the Galaxy, so there's that too...meaning it feels more like a science vessel than a "slower" cruiser. While reading this thread I looked up the Advanced Research. It actually looks like it would make a pretty nice torp/exotic damage boat...
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,387 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    If and when we get Discovery content, I can kinda see the Crossfield class being science heavy.

    never saw discovery, but it's nice they gave props to Scott Crossfield, one of the greatest test pilots in the 50s and 60s.
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