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Would you like to see the KDF and Romulans get the following?
trennan
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For the KDF I'm going to keep this simple. Since they already have a lot of races, I will only be adding one. But with the race they do have, I'm just going to add the female gender that is missing. Which is as follows:
Gorn Female, though this can be portrayed with the current setup.
Nausicaan Female
Lethean Females
New Race:
Trill, non-joined. Since they already have Joined Trill via the C-Store.
For the Romulans, I'll just be adding in new races, that are in the other factions, and some C-Store races. Which is the following
Betazoid
Benzite
Trill, non-joined
Trill, Joined
Talaxian
Klingon
Subilan
Edit: Suggested Races for all factions.
Cardassian
Ferengi
Gorn Female, though this can be portrayed with the current setup.
Nausicaan Female
Lethean Females
New Race:
Trill, non-joined. Since they already have Joined Trill via the C-Store.
For the Romulans, I'll just be adding in new races, that are in the other factions, and some C-Store races. Which is the following
Betazoid
Benzite
Trill, non-joined
Trill, Joined
Talaxian
Klingon
Subilan
Edit: Suggested Races for all factions.
Cardassian
Ferengi
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Would you like to see the KDF and Romulans get the following? 23 votes
Yes
26%
6 votes
No
39%
9 votes
Undecided
21%
5 votes
Yes, if it is this _____ species, instead of one of the ones listed. Or in addition to the list.
13%
3 votes
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And really Ferengi should be in all of them as well.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
That's why I put the latter yes in there. So that you could add races to the list.
As it is right now. Klingons have 6 races, Klingon, Gorn, Nausicaan, Orion, Lethean, and Alien. Then from the C-Store, Ferasan, Joined Trill, and Talaxian. Thus giving them 9 races.
Right now Romulans have 2. Romulan and Alien. Reman is a C-store purchase to make 3 races.
But I do oppose the faction-restrictions on principle.
Thanks for your explanation. That cleared up some of my questions.
Now, had you suggested Suliban or Cardassian or Kazon races be added as options for either of those factions; that I could have supported!!
That's what the last selection is for. To either swap this race for that race, or add them to the list itself. Though one can currently make a Cardassian via the alien gen. But, an actual race selection wouldn't hurt.
However I think the Romulans should have been a completely separate faction and not the lapdogs of the Federation or the KDF, that way, the Remans could have been a sub faction of the Romulan side or they could have remains factionless.
I know, I went a little off topic, but I didn't want to just say, "no, to all the other species joining the Romulans, trill, Betaziods etc etc" without you knowing why I think it is a bad idea.
I chose undecided for the simple reason is that Trills, Benzites and Betazoids are deep in Federation territory and how would any of these races get a chance to become leaders fighting for the Romulan faction, it wouldn't be much of a Romulan faction if it were lead by Federation member races. Talaxians like Acamarians have a better chance like the Suliban of making it into the Romulan faction unlike the Klingons who frankly have an empire of their own and any cast offs get their chance in Starfleet.
The Joined Trill race on the KDF side never made any sense, just because one individual the Symbiote Dax had a passing connection to several Klingons and a temporary officer exchange position within the Empire doesn't mean that the Trill species or their Symbiotes would automatically join the empire.
The Cardassians i hope to see as a Zen Store unlockable.. or unless this rumored expac in 2018 surrounding the Dominion produces the Cardassian playable race? I can't really see the Ferengi playing a part in Romulan or Klingon affairs, for a start the latter would never allow Ferengi to serve, to the Klingons? Ferengi are dispicable creatures with no honor and the Romulans have never had a strong connection with the Ferengi, at least none that i know of.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
That's probably why Joined Trill are a C-Store unlock, because Curzon Dax worked with 3 certain Dahar Masters, and Jadzia Dax followed them to take out The Albino. Cryptic does things if there's a connection to be made somewhere. So in a way Joined Trill makes sense.
I still can't see a Cardassian or Dominion faction due to one simple fact: virturally both faction's entire fleets are lockbox. Both the Galor (retired T5) and the Keldon (replacement T6) are lockbox, and are the Cardassians iconic ships. The Galor more than the Keldon. The Dominion... the ONLY ship NOT playable is the battlecruiser. Bugship, Heavy Escort Carrier, Dreadnaught... those are lockbox/lobi.
Cryptic developers getting the chance to create their own Cardassian themed designs? who would say no to such an idea
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Benzite, simple because. During the Dominion War, Benzar had fallen to Dominion and Cardassian forces by 2374. However, the planet was liberated by the Romulan Star Empire that year, after it joined the war on the side of the Allies.
Betazed, Deep In Federation Space? Not hardly, it's in the neutral zone area of the alpha quadrant. It closest neighboring Beta Quadrant Sector, Risa.
Trill, because of the Joined Trill option in the C-Store. Plus, the planets proximity to DS9. We could go with races closer to Romulans Space. For instance, Andorian, but they're Founding Members of the Federation, they make even less sense.
Ah... but any faction would have players demanding the iconic ships as well. I'm not saying they couldn't make their own designs, as a lot of games that have Cardassians in it have done in the past, but not being able to play the canon ships in some capacity would cause outrage. They shot themselves in the foot. Odds are Victory is Life may be more along the lines of Delta Rising, establishing a bit of a pattern with expansions, maybe adding a c-store species and more ships and missions, maybe opening up the Gamma Quadrant to exploration.
If they make any factions available to play that are canon, canon ships as well as cryptic designs would go along with it. If they did make a playable Cardi or Dominion faction, that would basically REQUIRE them to make the faction iconic ships for that faction too... and they're already lockbox. It would make those who got the lockbox/lobi ships feel cheated, even if they are "lower tier".
Romulans have the D'Deridex, T'varo, and T'Liss. All CANON designs. TOS Feds don't have any unique ships to them, but have access to the T1 TOS Connie and the T2 Daedelus, both CANON designs. Mainline Feds have access to dang near every canon design, same with KDF.
good reply, +1.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
While I'd love to see more races and/or factions added. This is for the species of our current factions. Which some are missing a gender. With one faction woefully behind on playable races.
Though, do feel free to continue the discussion. Not like I can stop you from doing so. I'll just sit back and enjoy the reading material.
look at the fed/kdf/rom ships T1 to T5 ships... you have the freebie token/dil ships you can get while you level up and then you have the zen store ships. for cardi/dominion you just do the weaker token/dil ships and for zen you do original designs... in no way would it impact the lock box ships.
female Gorn: minor tweaks really, especially if they use the Gornzilla approach.
female Lethean and Nausicaan: this would probably require the devs to completely rebuild how Lethean and Nausicaan faces are constructed. There's a reason why there's nearly no variety in how they look. It's because their heads are a single object in the tailor.
My character Tsin'xing
The Letheans perhaps. But, I'm not seeing a real need for that rework. As far as the Nausicaan female... well they were already in the concept art back when they first start on the KDF. I just can't recall the reasoning as to why they didn't add them in.
Federations: Full of members races who work together and serve together on ships.
KDF: Conquered several races. None are member species and in very rare cases end up serving on ships. None ever get command.
RSE: Romulans. All other species are servants/slaves. None serve on ships. None are allowed power of any kind.
Gorns: Separate Faction. Again a single species empire with only Gorns serving in the military. No mention of any member/conquered races.
Suliban was a faction that seems to have disappeared from Trek after Ent era.
Orions: Separate faction made up of at least two known subspecies, Greens and Greys. Slavery is rampant amongst the Orions and so may have species from any location serving aboard. Either as freeman or slaves.
Ferengi: Separate Faction that will hire other races as ground troops. But Ferengi's command the fleet.
I could go on, but by Cannon, there should be more factions and less races commanding in most of the factions. With that said, I only want to see AOY opened up to have the Alien option, and the Roms possibly getting Suliban added to them. The rest I just don't want to happen because it Homogenizes the factions to much. They loose their uniqueness.
KDF: Dahar Master Kan (Borg Klingon Tactical)::Dahar Master Torc (Alien Science)::Dahar Master Sisteric (Gorn Engineer)
RR-Fed: Citizen Sirroc (Romulan Science)::Fleet Admiral Grell (Alien Engineer)
RR-KDF: Fleet Admiral Zemo (Reman Tactical)::Fleet Admiral Xinatek (Reman Science)::Fleet Admiral Bel (Alien Engineer)
TOS-Fed: Fleet Admiral Katem (Andorian Tactical)::Lieutenant Commander Straad (Vulcan Engineer)
Dom-Fed: Dan'Tar (Jem'Hadar Science)
Dom-KDF: Kamtana'Solan (Jem'Hadar Science)
CoHost of Tribbles in Ecstasy (Zombee)
While I do agree here. I'm willing to open up the races a bit more. Since they're on about the Alliance most of the time. This plays in to that.
While I would enjoy seeing these as their own factions. Which I do in game. Looking at it from a writing and development angle, that would be on big pain in the bu... neck to deal with.
The way I look at this in game, I don't take which faction their from in to account. Take a Ferengi, while they are a Federation species. IF the player has it set that, that character is FCA/FTA or whatnot for the Ferengi. I go with that. So this comes down to the player to distinguish as to what Faction they are actually from.
Outside of this, all I see when it comes to factions, are, "These are the ships, costumes, doffing assignments, and starbase appearances I chose to go with."
Take for example my Rom Aliens. One is Rom-Fed for costumes and such, fits with how I made them. My other one is Rom-KDF for the same reason. Neither of them actually represent the Romulans, Federation, or Empire.
I really wouldn't even have suggested this. IF they would just open up all the alien look selections in the Alien Gen. You know, because I might want to make a race with the Voth Cranium, Gorn Jaw, and Caitian/Ferasan face, with a Benzite complexion. Then call it something like, The Platycudias species or some such.
ROM: Yes to Suliban and Talaxians (LTS). No to the rest.
Yes to Cardassians and Ferengi for all.
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Well, the RSE is Romulan only.....for the most part...but the Republic is a lot more inclusive, both because it's actively trying to change and the fact that their very existence is on the line and they need every soldier they can get. D'Tan accepting Obisek's offer to place his forces at the disposal of the Republic pretty much changed things forever....even if they didn't start the long road to Federation membership as they do endgame. Remans should probably have their own questline, where they join Obisek's Cause and ultimately follow him into Republic service....but that likely isn't practical. Aside from Remans and Suliban, and minor races like the Acamerians, I can't see many species signing up with the RR, unless they had married a Romulan and chosen to live among their spouse's people or were from a colony world of a bordering faction that ceded it to the Republic for some reason.
My character Tsin'xing