it just isn't one any self-respecting starfleet captain would ever consider...except sisko...and janeway...and kirk...okay, it's always up for consideration
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I really love the look of the show. The budget per episode really shows. The visuals are incredible, the sets are fantastic, and I even like the ships.
The problem is in the writing. They've got at least one writer whose work I am familiar with from the Voyager full circle novels, and who paints a very grim picture of humanity in the future in her books--apparently, everything that Gene intended about humanity progressively growing out of things like greed, warmongering and political corruption was a lie, and in the future humans are just as messed up as they are today.
That's not what Star Trek was meant to be. It was meant to provide hope that we can overcome our baser instincts, that one day we'll be one united planet (in fact, part of a United Federation) that is growing toward an even better future. Stumbling along the way, of course, but *advanced* in comparison to what we are now. This show is nothing more than generic modern sci-fi, full of deeply, tragically flawed people who you just can't bring yourself to like (other than the first officer of Discovery, he's great). Are we sure this show isn't in the Mirror Universe? I half expect we'll find out it is.
Come on, CBS. You can do better with the franchise's legacy.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
You can tell they're trying to spread this whole story out as much as they can. The first two episodes were basically a cold open, and all the following episodes are acts between commercial breaks.
So, Burnham gets off because the Captain of Discovery doesn't like to 'waste' the potential of a prisoner sentenced to life?! How totally lame. And then she goes and does it AGAIN, breaking into that bio chamber! The first bit of -- very undue -- trust bestowed upon her, and Burnham turns around and immediately shows it was misplaced, and that she really rather likes to do things her own way. If anything, the 3rd installment proved she's not fit for any type of command.
I found him, maybe not all that likeable, but rather plausible. I feel n many ways he's like Burnham, but operating within the system. He's clearly indicating he's willing to do whatever it takes to win the war (and hints to not mind getting his hands dirty, if need be).
As long as the Federation is protected by any means
Meh....to me, the cause does not justify means if it involves doing despicable things.
When it comes to ends justifying the means, I'd be cool with Lorca redirecting a Doomsday Machine towards Qo'nos. But then later the Federation would probably lose the Dominion War, so ...
I don't think Genocide would be considered ok. ;;|O.o\
Genocide is ALWAYS an option.
I hope you never go into a political office. ;;|>_>\
I found him, maybe not all that likeable, but rather plausible. I feel n many ways he's like Burnham, but operating within the system. He's clearly indicating he's willing to do whatever it takes to win the war (and hints to not mind getting his hands dirty, if need be).
Also, take note of his chamber of horrors...or his 'trophies'. A Fetish convention Klingon skull, and a Gorn skeleton.
On the lunatic ratings scale, so far, he scores 4 out of 5 chainsaws.
I found him, maybe not all that likeable, but rather plausible. I feel n many ways he's like Burnham, but operating within the system. He's clearly indicating he's willing to do whatever it takes to win the war (and hints to not mind getting his hands dirty, if need be).
Also, take note of his chamber of horrors...or his 'trophies'. A Fetish convention Klingon skull, and a Gorn skeleton.
> @shadowfang240 said: > janeway didn't nuke an entire planet from orbit
No, but she did help the Borg survive a self-inflicted extinction.
Which is really worse than Burnham: mutiny versus treason.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
I found him, maybe not all that likeable, but rather plausible. I feel n many ways he's like Burnham, but operating within the system. He's clearly indicating he's willing to do whatever it takes to win the war (and hints to not mind getting his hands dirty, if need be).
Also, take note of his chamber of horrors...or his 'trophies'. A Fetish convention Klingon skull, and a Gorn skeleton.
Good catch!
~curtsy~ Also, on the table, he had a Cardassian vole or two. Also, he had a small arsenal of the fetish convention Klingon weapons, both guns and cutlery.
As I said, this guys scores on the Psycho scale of 4 out of 5 chainsaws.
I bet this guy tortured animals as a kid.
it just isn't one any self-respecting starfleet captain would ever consider...except sisko...and janeway...and kirk...okay, it's always up for consideration
Picard definitely considered genocide on the Borg, and was chewed out for not doing it when it turned out what he did instead didn't really work out as they hoped.
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I found him, maybe not all that likeable, but rather plausible. I feel n many ways he's like Burnham, but operating within the system. He's clearly indicating he's willing to do whatever it takes to win the war (and hints to not mind getting his hands dirty, if need be).
Also, take note of his chamber of horrors...or his 'trophies'. A Fetish convention Klingon skull, and a Gorn skeleton.
On the lunatic ratings scale, so far, he scores 4 out of 5 chainsaws.
Eh, my Captain's quarters wouldn't be that much different.
> @patrickngo said: > sure it would. In fact, it must happen, and soon, because otherwise, there's a continuity/universe-breaking situation where you have to explain how these wooden, expressionless, reptiliod-orkling Klingons are gone by the time of Kang, Koloth, and Kor (ten years from now), and why they don't ever appear again, even centuries later, even a century earlier, yet they're supposed to be the baseline of the race. > > there HAS TO BE a genocide to eliminate a phenotype that important in the long term. the hairless Klingons have to die out, by definition, this is going to have to happen by conscious actions of someone, so that makes it Genocide, and since this is the "Prime" universe instead of a parallel, that means someone has to do, unleash, or create something that murders them all, male, female, and child, and erases their genetic legacy from the Empire..
Or, the showrunners decided to just dump that stupid Augment virus plot and retcon the Klingons' appearance for the umpteenth time and say "we changed 'em because we felt like it, and Roddenberry did it first".
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Perhaps Lorca's line about his "eyes needing to adjust to the light" is a clue?
Not as much as what you can see in his eyes (fungal spores.) I think an accident has given Lorca the ability to see through the mycelial network (like Burnham experienced in another fashion with the chamber at the end of the episode). The odd voice modulation in certain scenes could be a clue on when he's shifting his perspective.
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it just isn't one any self-respecting starfleet captain would ever consider...except sisko...and janeway...and kirk...okay, it's always up for consideration
Exactly! It's not option A or B, and probably not C, but it's in there somewhere.
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
The problem is in the writing. They've got at least one writer whose work I am familiar with from the Voyager full circle novels, and who paints a very grim picture of humanity in the future in her books--apparently, everything that Gene intended about humanity progressively growing out of things like greed, warmongering and political corruption was a lie, and in the future humans are just as messed up as they are today.
That's not what Star Trek was meant to be. It was meant to provide hope that we can overcome our baser instincts, that one day we'll be one united planet (in fact, part of a United Federation) that is growing toward an even better future. Stumbling along the way, of course, but *advanced* in comparison to what we are now. This show is nothing more than generic modern sci-fi, full of deeply, tragically flawed people who you just can't bring yourself to like (other than the first officer of Discovery, he's great). Are we sure this show isn't in the Mirror Universe? I half expect we'll find out it is.
Come on, CBS. You can do better with the franchise's legacy.
After 12 years, I'm not getting my hopes up.
My hopes crashed when you were told you had to pay for it. What are they thinking
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I found him, maybe not all that likeable, but rather plausible. I feel n many ways he's like Burnham, but operating within the system. He's clearly indicating he's willing to do whatever it takes to win the war (and hints to not mind getting his hands dirty, if need be).
I hope you never go into a political office. ;;|>_>\
Also, take note of his chamber of horrors...or his 'trophies'. A Fetish convention Klingon skull, and a Gorn skeleton.
On the lunatic ratings scale, so far, he scores 4 out of 5 chainsaws.
Good catch!
> janeway didn't nuke an entire planet from orbit
No, but she did help the Borg survive a self-inflicted extinction.
Which is really worse than Burnham: mutiny versus treason.
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~curtsy~ Also, on the table, he had a Cardassian vole or two. Also, he had a small arsenal of the fetish convention Klingon weapons, both guns and cutlery.
As I said, this guys scores on the Psycho scale of 4 out of 5 chainsaws.
I bet this guy tortured animals as a kid.
Picard definitely considered genocide on the Borg, and was chewed out for not doing it when it turned out what he did instead didn't really work out as they hoped.
Pretty sure he hasn't stopped
Yup...that nails it for me. The guy is not human.
If I had to fathom a guess at this point...I would say...he may be Klingon?
But who knows, yet.
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Eh, my Captain's quarters wouldn't be that much different.
> sure it would. In fact, it must happen, and soon, because otherwise, there's a continuity/universe-breaking situation where you have to explain how these wooden, expressionless, reptiliod-orkling Klingons are gone by the time of Kang, Koloth, and Kor (ten years from now), and why they don't ever appear again, even centuries later, even a century earlier, yet they're supposed to be the baseline of the race.
>
> there HAS TO BE a genocide to eliminate a phenotype that important in the long term. the hairless Klingons have to die out, by definition, this is going to have to happen by conscious actions of someone, so that makes it Genocide, and since this is the "Prime" universe instead of a parallel, that means someone has to do, unleash, or create something that murders them all, male, female, and child, and erases their genetic legacy from the Empire..
Or, the showrunners decided to just dump that stupid Augment virus plot and retcon the Klingons' appearance for the umpteenth time and say "we changed 'em because we felt like it, and Roddenberry did it first".
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Or he's another Norman Bates.
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