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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,193 Arc User
    Odd, I had a good use of the fleet t6 excelsior before.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 2,958 Arc User
    Im pretty sure that if Thomas could have some free time, he would redo that skin, so, I'll wait and see
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.

    I quite like it.

    My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... pig-14.gif.

    I am happy I disappointed you. :)

    And, just to annoy you. :D
    *Censored for reasons of decency and taste*

    It's not annoying, it's rage inducing. So many beautiful ships in the franchise and people fly their flags behind the stupid-over balanced, stupid-bloated, stupid-pylon, stupid McAccordion Neck Face.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,193 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.

    I quite like it.

    My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... pig-14.gif.

    I am happy I disappointed you. :)

    And, just to annoy you. :D
    *Censored for reasons of decency and taste*

    It's not annoying, it's rage inducing. So many beautiful ships in the franchise and people fly their flags behind the stupid-over balanced, stupid-bloated, stupid-pylon, stupid McAccordion Neck Face.​​

    Something tells me you don't like it. :)
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  • valoreahvaloreah Member Posts: 10,745 Arc User
    Something tells me you don't like it. :)

    LOL! :smile:

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.

    I quite like it.

    My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... pig-14.gif.

    I am happy I disappointed you. :)

    And, just to annoy you. :D
    *Censored for reasons of decency and taste*

    It's not annoying, it's rage inducing. So many beautiful ships in the franchise and people fly their flags behind the stupid-over balanced, stupid-bloated, stupid-pylon, stupid McAccordion Neck Face.​​

    problem artan?
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Uugh, there's no helping some people. The kindest and most humane thing to do is to just put you all down.

    Youse want blindfolds?​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 14,590 Arc User
    All joking aside, it really is a case of 'each to their own'. I like the Excelsior - don't love it, but definitely like it.

    It is a pity that those who love the Excelsior didn't get a re-skin though. Those who love the Constitution class were very fortunate in that respect, but I guess that had the (extremely favourable) advantage of being an incredibly sought-after prize ship.


  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,193 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    Uugh, there's no helping some people. The kindest and most humane thing to do is to just put you all down.

    Youse want blindfolds?​​

    We can solve your problem
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.

    I quite like it.

    My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... pig-14.gif.

    I am happy I disappointed you. :)

    And, just to annoy you. :D
    *Censored for reasons of decency and taste*

    It's not annoying, it's rage inducing. So many beautiful ships in the franchise and people fly their flags behind the stupid-over balanced, stupid-bloated, stupid-pylon, stupid McAccordion Neck Face.​​

    And just give an example of what I should be liking?









    This outta be interesting. >_>;
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    artan42 wrote: »
    Uugh, there's no helping some people. The kindest and most humane thing to do is to just put you all down.

    Youse want blindfolds?​​

    We can solve your problem
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.

    I quite like it.

    My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... pig-14.gif.

    I am happy I disappointed you. :)

    And, just to annoy you. :D
    *Censored for reasons of decency and taste*

    It's not annoying, it's rage inducing. So many beautiful ships in the franchise and people fly their flags behind the stupid-over balanced, stupid-bloated, stupid-pylon, stupid McAccordion Neck Face.​​

    And just give an example of what I should be liking?









    This outta be interesting. >_>;

    Literally any. A Vogon Constructor ship is preferable.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,808 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.

    I quite like it.

    My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... pig-14.gif.

    I am happy I disappointed you. :)

    And, just to annoy you. :D
    *Censored for reasons of decency and taste*

    It's not annoying, it's rage inducing. So many beautiful ships in the franchise and people fly their flags behind the stupid-over balanced, stupid-bloated, stupid-pylon, stupid McAccordion Neck Face.​​

    problem artan?
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    Lovely looking ship
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      -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
    • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 14,590 Arc User
      edited September 2017
      artan42 wrote: »
      artan42 wrote: »
      artan42 wrote: »
      Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.

      I quite like it.

      My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... pig-14.gif.

      I am happy I disappointed you. :)

      And, just to annoy you. :D
      *Censored for reasons of decency and taste*

      It's not annoying, it's rage inducing. So many beautiful ships in the franchise and people fly their flags behind the stupid-over balanced, stupid-bloated, stupid-pylon, stupid McAccordion Neck Face.​​

      problem artan?
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      Lovely looking ship

      Have to admit, whilst I do like the Excelsior, I don't like the Enterpise-B/Lakota design quite as much. Those 'flares' on the primary hull ruin it in my opinion.

      Of course the REAL reason for that addition was that the 'Generations' script had the Enterprise-B take damage to the primary hull; those 'flares' were added to the Excelsior model to allow them to blow a hole in the model without damaging the original model beneath. It, however, didn't work - the glue used to fix the flares to the Excelsior model damaged the Excelsior model beneath and the flares were therefore never removed.
      This was why the USS Lakota (DS9 'Paradise Lost' ) - which was the next, and final, use of the physical Excelsior model - retained those flares.


    • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
      edited September 2017
      reyan01 wrote: »
      artan42 wrote: »
      artan42 wrote: »
      artan42 wrote: »
      Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.

      I quite like it.

      My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... pig-14.gif.

      I am happy I disappointed you. :)

      And, just to annoy you. :D
      *Censored for reasons of decency and taste*

      It's not annoying, it's rage inducing. So many beautiful ships in the franchise and people fly their flags behind the stupid-over balanced, stupid-bloated, stupid-pylon, stupid McAccordion Neck Face.​​

      problem artan?
      maxresdefault.jpg

      Lovely looking ship

      Have to admit, whilst I do like the Excelsior, I don't like the Enterpise-B/Lakota design quite as much. Those 'flares' on the primary hull ruin it in my opinion.

      Of course the REAL reason for that addition was that the 'Generations' script had the Enterprise-B take damage to the primary hull; those 'flares' were added to the Excelsior model to allow them to blow a hole in the model without damaging the original model beneath. It, however, didn't work - the glue used to fix the flares to the Excelsior model damaged the Excelsior model beneath and the flares were therefore never removed.
      This was why the USS Lakota (DS9 'Paradise Lost' ) - which was the next, and final, use of the physical Excelsior model - retained those flares.

      Very intersing bit of trivia. Guess they found themselves in....
      (•_•)
      ( •_•)>⌐■-■
      (⌐■_■)
      a sticky situation.

      Well at least in STO we can mix and match parts so we can build our best Excelsior variant. While the flares a bit too much I like all the other small changes the refit version recieved.
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    • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,193 Arc User
      reyan01 wrote: »
      artan42 wrote: »
      artan42 wrote: »
      artan42 wrote: »
      Remove it from the game. Hell, retcon it out of the franchise completely in new special editions. Hideous abomination.

      I quite like it.

      My condolences on your tragic loss of your sense of aesthetics. So young to have just... died... pig-14.gif.

      I am happy I disappointed you. :)

      And, just to annoy you. :D
      *Censored for reasons of decency and taste*

      It's not annoying, it's rage inducing. So many beautiful ships in the franchise and people fly their flags behind the stupid-over balanced, stupid-bloated, stupid-pylon, stupid McAccordion Neck Face.​​

      problem artan?
      maxresdefault.jpg

      Lovely looking ship

      Have to admit, whilst I do like the Excelsior, I don't like the Enterpise-B/Lakota design quite as much. Those 'flares' on the primary hull ruin it in my opinion.

      Of course the REAL reason for that addition was that the 'Generations' script had the Enterprise-B take damage to the primary hull; those 'flares' were added to the Excelsior model to allow them to blow a hole in the model without damaging the original model beneath. It, however, didn't work - the glue used to fix the flares to the Excelsior model damaged the Excelsior model beneath and the flares were therefore never removed.
      This was why the USS Lakota (DS9 'Paradise Lost' ) - which was the next, and final, use of the physical Excelsior model - retained those flares.

      Same, I like the original version far more. All that added kibble makes it look a clunky, primitive thing that either Red Green or Tim Allen did.
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    • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,193 Arc User

      Very intersing bit of trivia. Guess they found themselves in....
      (•_•)
      ( •_•)>⌐■-■
      (⌐■_■)
      a sticky situation.

      ~face palm~

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    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,808 Arc User
      reyan01 wrote: »
      Of course the REAL reason for that addition was that the 'Generations' script had the Enterprise-B take damage to the primary hull; those 'flares' were added to the Excelsior model to allow them to blow a hole in the model without damaging the original model beneath. It, however, didn't work - the glue used to fix the flares to the Excelsior model damaged the Excelsior model beneath and the flares were therefore never removed.
      This was why the USS Lakota (DS9 'Paradise Lost' ) - which was the next, and final, use of the physical Excelsior model - retained those flares.

      Which adds more internal space to work in, it's more practical
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        -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
      • ishigami2ishigami2 Member Posts: 138 Arc User
        Visually I honestly like the Excelsior.
        It really came into its own in ST VI.

        I would appreciate an update like they did with Miranda and Constitution. She is a bit blocky on the saucer and around her deflector dish. Something those “flares” of the refit btw. tend to hide in the game.
        She could do with more details on the aft weapon ports, bridge and forward torpedo launchers.
        Better materials however should make the most difference. She is missing her very elaborate Aztec pattern and the paint job in general just doesn’t do her justice.
        The studio model had a two colour blue/gold band around the bridge which also had the Aztec pattern.
        Here is a picture of a 1/1000 scale AMT model kit for illustration:
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        Decal kits for scale models seem to be the best source I can find as it is kind of difficult to get pictures of the studio model where you could actually see this since it was rebuild into the Enterprise B and that one lost the two colour band for a boring grey band:
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        This is the actual studio model after it was renamed again to display USS Lakota for DS9.

        Of course a small change in Boff layout as suggest giving it a universal console would be the real treat as this would make way more viable.
      • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,775 Arc User
        ishigami2 wrote: »
        Visually I honestly like the Excelsior.
        It really came into its own in ST VI.

        Yeah I agree. That was the moment that I fired up old SFC1 (back in the day) and switched to the OP Excelsior with Plasma torps and missiles.
        When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
      • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
        WHY WON'T THIS THREAD DIE!!111one!!!

        We all unanimously agreed that the E*******r is beyond saving and should be hauled away as garbage in favour of literally any other ship in Science Fiction ever. I heard you all swear the oath and drink from the cup.

        So this is how the world ends?...​​
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        Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
        JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

        #TASforSTO


        '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
        'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
        'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
        '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
        'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
        '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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      • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,817 Arc User
        artan42 wrote: »
        WHY WON'T THIS THREAD DIE!!111one!!!

        We all unanimously agreed that the E*******r is beyond saving and should be hauled away as garbage in favour of literally any other ship in Science Fiction ever. I heard you all swear the oath and drink from the cup.

        So this is how the world ends?...​​

        Wrong ship class and that was hauled away AS Garbage! at least 100 years before coming back. The Excelsior is an enduring design, pretty ship :tongue:.

        Give it some love.
        T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW.
        Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
      • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
        The Excelsior is an enduring design, pretty ship :tongue:.

        Give it some love.

        LOVE!! IvaWOgM.png, I'd give it a hail of overcharged tricobalt warheads.​​
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        Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
        JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

        #TASforSTO


        '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
        'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
        'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
        '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
        'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
        '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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      • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,193 Arc User
        artan42 wrote: »
        WHY WON'T THIS THREAD DIE!!111one!!!

        We all unanimously agreed that the E*******r is beyond saving and should be hauled away as garbage in favour of literally any other ship in Science Fiction ever. I heard you all swear the oath and drink from the cup.

        So this is how the world ends?...​​

        Do you need a hug? :)
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      • christopher082christopher082 Member Posts: 67 Arc User
        I have my tac fed delta recruit in a resolute using a antiproton dbb and omni's and it works well.
        I wanted her to fly a "patrol cruiser", the kind of thing that would spend most of its time crawling along the borders, and be one of the first to an incident. I think the Excelsior/Resolute fit that role perfectly.
      • silverlobes#2676 silverlobes Member Posts: 1,953 Arc User
        artan42 wrote: »
        WHY WON'T THIS THREAD DIE!!111one!!!

        We all unanimously agreed that the E*******r is beyond saving and should be hauled away as garbage in favour of literally any other ship in Science Fiction ever. I heard you all swear the oath and drink from the cup.

        So this is how the world ends?...​​

        Do you need a hug? :)
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        Always :sunglasses:
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        Sweeet :sunglasses:
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      • natthaannatthaan Member Posts: 74 Arc User
        I'm kinda hoping that 42 dude is trolling.... I mean... the Excelsior is the most common design seen in Star Trek.
      • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,193 Arc User
        natthaan wrote: »
        I'm kinda hoping that 42 dude is trolling.... I mean... the Excelsior is the most common design seen in Star Trek.

        Sometimes, sir, they are NOT trolling. I've known people who are genuinely like that, aka, a broomstick crammed up their you know what. :|
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      • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,193 Arc User
        I have my tac fed delta recruit in a resolute using a antiproton dbb and omni's and it works well.
        I wanted her to fly a "patrol cruiser", the kind of thing that would spend most of its time crawling along the borders, and be one of the first to an incident. I think the Excelsior/Resolute fit that role perfectly.

        And it also looks nice. :) Nemoy did pick that model out, way back in 1984, you know, out of several available.
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      • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,193 Arc User
        artan42 wrote: »
        WHY WON'T THIS THREAD DIE!!111one!!!

        We all unanimously agreed that the E*******r is beyond saving and should be hauled away as garbage in favour of literally any other ship in Science Fiction ever. I heard you all swear the oath and drink from the cup.

        So this is how the world ends?...​​

        Do you need a hug? :)
        dlmfZ3T.jpg
        Always :sunglasses:


        Your Ferengi fellow does not seem to have much problem, there. ;)
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